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Envy Lawn Service
06-16-2010, 01:08 AM
OK, so a friend of mine came to me wanting advice on getting a new lawn tractor.

I took him and showed him the lawn tractors I would buy if I were him, because that is what he needs. He went back and bought a Simplicity model below the models I suggested because it fit what he was willing to pay... and he wanted the nice STRIPES.

I looked the unit over and it is nice... nothing wrong with it I can see.
Very nice actually for a unit below what I suggested.

However, the darn thing hardly stripes at all, and I can't find a thing wrong.

It has the right amount of pitch for a 44" deck.
The deck is pretty heavy, and it is fully riding on the rear rollers.

So I assumed I would have to show him some technique.
THAT WAS NOT THE CASE ACTUALLY.

I mean I did show him some tricks.
But he's right... it hardly stripes at all when the blades are on.
Yet the roller stripes fine if you just drive around.

The blades sound like they spin plenty fast and everything.
Actually I was surprised at how high the tip speed sounded...
And the engine never labored once.

For once I am stumped... I don't know what is wrong.

All I can think of related to the blades being on is tip speed and air coming out the deck.

Is it even possible that the tip speed can be too high for good striping?
I would not think so...
Especially not on a deck that rides on rollers on the ground......

Envy Lawn Service
06-26-2010, 01:40 AM
Nobody has a clue, or theory or anything???

MS_SURVEYOR
06-26-2010, 02:08 AM
The deck is pretty heavy, and it is fully riding on the rear rollers.

Beats me! As you said it's riding on the rear rollers behind the blades. I've never owned a Simplicity, but from all accounts they are the stripe king. It's got to be the grass type. :confused:

jtk47
06-26-2010, 10:21 AM
What type of grass is it?

dwost
06-26-2010, 11:56 AM
Questions

1) Is he mulching, discharging, bagging?
2) what blades are on the deck now?
3) anything on the cut that looks off, meaning are there stragglers, is it level? etc...
4) Type of grass and how high is he cutting? Also have you verified the height is correct as per the indicator on the rear crank vs. a ruler?

GreenShoesLC
06-26-2010, 02:08 PM
Cut height will affect the visibility of stripes, a little higher cut height will leave more grass blade to be bent resulting in more visible stripes

Envy Lawn Service
06-26-2010, 03:00 PM
Questions

1) Is he mulching, discharging, bagging?
2) what blades are on the deck now?
3) anything on the cut that looks off, meaning are there stragglers, is it level? etc...
4) Type of grass and how high is he cutting? Also have you verified the height is correct as per the indicator on the rear crank vs. a ruler?


1) Side discharging
2) Stock highlifts
3) Absolutely immaculate cut
4) Fescue/Common Bermuda mix... about 3"... cutting height is a whole inch off.

Hoy landscaping
06-26-2010, 03:35 PM
cut as high as it goes.

Zivman
06-26-2010, 05:47 PM
1) Side discharging
2) Stock highlifts
3) Absolutely immaculate cut
4) Fescue/Common Bermuda mix... about 3"... cutting height is a whole inch off.

cut it at 3.5"-4"

Envy Lawn Service
06-26-2010, 08:09 PM
Well, the strange part about it is this...

You can go back over what you just cut with the blades off and it stripes well as you would expect with the deck weight riding on the roller. Go back over it a 3rd time with the blades back on and it takes away from the effect.

I'm lost.

LCCaptain
06-26-2010, 09:27 PM
My simplicity stripes awesome on everything. The only time I notice a difference is when there is more clover and ground ivy than grass and it still stripes. I can stripe well at 2 3/4" but it stripes awesome at 3 to 3 3/4" My striper has a spring so, I am not sure if all of them do or if they are just attached to the deck or not. I would suggest sharp blades and a raised deck.

dwost
06-27-2010, 10:58 AM
Hmmmm........that's a tough one Envy. Sounds like it's set up correctly the only thing I can think is maybe the blades are creating too much turbulence under the deck? Maybe stick a set of Gator Magnum's on it and see if the results vary. You can also try to source some mid or low lift blades. Post up some pics if possible to check out.

Envy Lawn Service
06-27-2010, 11:43 AM
Yeah, I remember being real surprised at the tip speed.

Might ought to check the engine RPM.
It seems really high for a lawn tractor.