10k asphault ???

[N.TX]

I just pressure washed the inside of a 10,000sf building that has an asphault floor that was really dusty. I am fairly new to pressure washing...I already did the job and it turned out great but now I have to bill them for it. I basically told them I would bill by the hour but Im sure I am slow so I want to know about what something like that should go for so I dont rip them off. Can you guys help me out?

[N.TX]

Hello anybody? Just a rough idea please

[BIGBOY2008]

You already have your problem partially solved by realizing that it probably took you a bit longer than it would somebody who is more experienced at pressure washing. While there is usually a local, county and regional "rate per hour" for the pressure washing service industry you will not want to go too far below that hourly rate while at the same time you dont want to overcharge the customer. Still at the same time you dont want others to set your rates but rather you want to set your own rates in accordance to what is in the best interest of your own business.

I can truly understand your dilemna...i have beeen there before.

One thing you can do is estimate three seperate seperate prices to work with:

Price #01 - The standard price per hour charged by other pressure washing services.

Price #02 - The price per hour slightly less that the standard price per hour charged by other pressure washing services due to the possibility you might be a little slower or less efficient in rendering your services.

Price #03 - The general price per single unit job that you can charge the customer and make a solid (after taxes) profit without hurting yourself. Then you can add the cost of what you would have paid to lease your pressure washer from the equipment rental business during this time period. And heck while you are at it also add the cost of a steak dinner even if you did eat bologna for lunch.

Write these three price quotes down on paper and study them for a few hours and then simply follow your gut instinct about what to charge.

[FCPWLLC]

$1200 should have taken 3-4 hours.

[N.TX]

FCPWLLC .....Are you serious about that price. It took me more like 8 hrs but thats with a small unit and I washed the metal walls down which ...i guess took about half the time so i wasnt too far off. I was thinking about charging in the 400-600 range. Is that really low balling because I would be making about 60 an hr at that rate.

[FCPWLLC]

FCPWLLC .....Are you serious about that price. It took me more like 8 hrs but thats with a small unit and I washed the metal walls down which ...i guess took about half the time so i wasnt too far off. I was thinking about charging in the 400-600 range. Is that really low balling because I would be making about 60 an hr at that rate.

Just giving you MY price. I get that kind of price day in and day out. We wash houses in an hour and get $350+.

With washing down the walls too, I'd be at $1600+.

Something to think about..... $60/hr is awesome money if your expenses are only $10/hr. $200/hr is bad money if your expenses are $180/hr.

Don't get stuck on the dollar amount that a customer might percieve as large. Only YOU know what will be profitable. If $60/hr is covering ALL your expense, paying you a good paycheck and allowing for profit and growth, then is not a low-ball price. For me, $60/hr won't do all those things as I expect a 6 figure salary from my company and also want to grow and market.
Also, Chrome on a Harley is expensive. :)

[twobroslawns]

$1000. did you use a surface cleaner?

[N.TX]

I just used straight water. All we needed to do on this one was wash the dirt away. My business is still fairly small with basically just 3 of us. Our overhead is low and around here I can make money off charging 35-45 man hr. That means if there are 3 of us its usually around 100hr before you take out pay for the guys and operating expenses. Most of the time that leaves me with around 50-60 an hr if I am on the job too. I am wanting to make more though so thats why I am branching out into other services besides landscaping and so if I need to charge more then I will be happy to do so. We try and do good work with whatever we do so I always appreciate any advice that helps us keep up with the industry standard or better.

[precisionpower]

FCPWLLC .....Are you serious about that price. It took me more like 8 hrs but thats with a small unit and I washed the metal walls down which ...i guess took about half the time so i wasnt too far off. I was thinking about charging in the 400-600 range. Is that really low balling because I would be making about 60 an hr at that rate.

$60 an hour is okay......if you want to go out of business. ANY and EVERY service company should be billing AT LEAST $100 per hour. If I see a service company billing less than that, you can usually bet he's struggling at every facet of his business. No offense meant here, just being honest. $60 per hour is scraps for a business, but sufficient for an old, retired man who needs money to spend on his coffee in the morning. :)

[slowleak1]

$60 an hour is okay......if you want to go out of business. ANY and EVERY service company should be billing AT LEAST $100 per hour. If I see a service company billing less than that, you can usually bet he's struggling at every facet of his business. No offense meant here, just being honest. $60 per hour is scraps for a business, but sufficient for an old, retired man who needs money to spend on his coffee in the morning. :)

I finally came back to this site after not visiting in a long time and I see nothing has changed. This whole place is full of stuck up pricks like yourself. I for one will keep charging my "low" prices and continue to SUCCESSFULLY run my business and do quality work, which shows by the refferals I get. I dont understand why all your guys have to act so macho and holier than thou. People like you are the reason I quit coming here:realmad:

[precisionpower]

I finally came back to this site after not visiting in a long time and I see nothing has changed. This whole place is full of stuck up pricks like yourself. I for one will keep charging my "low" prices and continue to SUCCESSFULLY run my business and do quality work, which shows by the refferals I get. I dont understand why all your guys have to act so macho and holier than thou. People like you are the reason I quit coming here:realmad:

Well, first off, I'm not a prick. I'm one of the nicest, most helpful guys you will ever meet. Always go the extra mile to help out ANYBODY who asks for it. And I bet you'd would NEVER call me a prick if we were face-to-face, because I'd slap the taste right out of your mouth. Aside from that, nobody is "holier than thou" or "macho". It seems to me that someone (you) lacks the confidence, and/or balls to step up and discuss business principles, pricing, etc. Instead, you take it personal, and run from a difference of opinion instead of attempting to justify your opinions. If you ever want to discuss business, let's do it. but, I don't speak "whiney", and most other professionals don't either. And, to be completely honest with you, I don't think ANYONE cares if you come here or not, just as they don't care if I come here either. This is a great forum, and guys can disagree and still be friends, without name-calling and acting immature.
Until you can play along, feel free to continue to charge your low prices. The prices may not be low for you, if you know what it takes to be profitable. Sounds to me like you took it personal, so maybe it hit home. And the reason we act "macho", is because for some reason, every Joe Blow thinks that because he knows how to turn on a pressure washer, that he must also know how tot use it correctly. It's not an attitude; it's an irritation that our industry standards get compromised by folks who have no idea how this industry works. hope that helps clarify.:waving:

[precisionpower]

@ slowleak: Keep in mindalso that an internet forum doesn't allow to hear the tone in one's voice,soyou can't sense my sarcasm. My replyto the originalOP was meant to offer my opinion with a sense of humor, instead of saying
"Hey Dumba$$, you don't charge enough! You're an idiot! And did I mention, you also a dumba$$?" So,I apologize if offended anyone.

[N.TX]

I dont think I will be going out of business anytime soon. I agree I could charge more but like what Micheal said ....its all about what your expenses are. I am small and my expenses are low. Sure I can charge more as I need to but thats why im asking for advice ...not attitude. Thanks

[precisionpower]

I dont think I will be going out of business anytime soon. I agree I could charge more but like what Micheal said ....its all about what your expenses are. I am small and my expenses are low. Sure I can charge more as I need to but thats why im asking for advice ...not attitude. Thanks

Like I said, no attitude, just a sense of humor. And if you CAN charge more, then why would you not?

[N.TX]

Thanks for the advice ... Sorry for the attitude myself I just had a long day. Thanks for the advice everybody.

[JCinNJ]

Hows it going Kevin?

N.Tx & slowleak1
- are you running charity or a business?
If you answer "business", continue reading

- are you providing Mcdonalds service or 5 star restaurant service?
If your answer is "5 star service at McD's prices" you will not be in business very long and you will ALWAYS be broke. When was the last time you were in a 5 star restaurant with McD's pricing? They dont exist for a reason

My number is here if you want to ask more questions

[nepatsfan]

Well, first off, I'm not a prick. I'm one of the nicest, most helpful guys you will ever meet. Always go the extra mile to help out ANYBODY who asks for it. And I bet you'd would NEVER call me a prick if we were face-to-face, because I'd slap the taste right out of your mouth. Aside from that, nobody is "holier than thou" or "macho". It seems to me that someone (you) lacks the confidence, and/or balls to step up and discuss business principles, pricing, etc. Instead, you take it personal, and run from a difference of opinion instead of attempting to justify your opinions. If you ever want to discuss business, let's do it. but, I don't speak "whiney", and most other professionals don't either. And, to be completely honest with you, I don't think ANYONE cares if you come here or not, just as they don't care if I come here either. This is a great forum, and guys can disagree and still be friends, without name-calling and acting immature.
Until you can play along, feel free to continue to charge your low prices. The prices may not be low for you, if you know what it takes to be profitable. Sounds to me like you took it personal, so maybe it hit home. And the reason we act "macho", is because for some reason, every Joe Blow thinks that because he knows how to turn on a pressure washer, that he must also know how tot use it correctly. It's not an attitude; it's an irritation that our industry standards get compromised by folks who have no idea how this industry works. hope that helps clarify.:waving:

LOL..dont give youself too much credit. Anyone can figure out how to use a pressure washer, just like a lawnmower. Give me a break. Do you think pressure washing is a trade? A trained monkey could do it except it probably would get boring for him because its so mindless.

[JCinNJ]

LOL..dont give youself too much credit. Anyone can figure out how to use a pressure washer, just like a lawnmower. Give me a break. Do you think pressure washing is a trade? A trained monkey could do it except it probably would get boring for him because its so mindless.

Are you trying to push buttons or are you serous because those are the words of a lowballing hack working for beer money, not a professional....

A quality landscaper will use quality equipment, take the time to properly train employees and treat their customers with respect. At the same time they will provide top of the line services.

The same holds true for power washing only it takes longer to become proficient and learn the proper techniques to use on different surfaces.

I have seen wood, concrete, stone, pavers, brick, vinyl, aluminum, roof shingles and just about every other surface ruined because a weekend warrior or overly ambitious home owner thought "its only power washing, any monkey can do it".

Repair or replacement costs for those surfaces are far more expensive then hiring a professional to do it the right way.

[nepatsfan]

Are you trying to push buttons or are you serous because those are the words of a lowballing hack working for beer money, not a professional....

A quality landscaper will use quality equipment, take the time to properly train employees and treat their customers with respect. At the same time they will provide top of the line services.

The same holds true for power washing only it takes longer to become proficient and learn the proper techniques to use on different surfaces.

I have seen wood, concrete, stone, pavers, brick, vinyl, aluminum, roof shingles and just about every other surface ruined because a weekend warrior or overly ambitious home owner thought "its only power washing, any monkey can do it".

Repair or replacement costs for those surfaces are far more expensive then hiring a professional to do it the right way.

Dead serious. Not lowballers at all. I have trained the absolute dumbest guys to run lawnmowers. It is what it is. Anyone can use easlily learn to use a power washer. Its not stuff that people cant do its stuff that people dont want to do. I mean seriously, dont give yourselves too much credit. Mowing and powerwashing are services that people use because they dont feel like doing it themselves, not because they are not capable. You can still charge a premium by selling quality work and reliability . There are do's and dont's to power washing like everything else. Read the owners manual and do about 20 minutes of reasearch online. Give me a break.

[FCPWLLC]

While anyone can be taught to use something, it is possible that the teacher is teaching a bad method. Keep reading the owners manual on a pressure washer, and I guarantee it is being used improperly.

Anyhow, that said, if it is TRUE that ANYONE can PROPERLY use a Pressure Washer, or Lawn Mower, it is also TRUE that "Not Just Anyone" can properly run a Profitable Business. This is why 9/10 fail. They simply are being run by "Just Anyone"

Not knowing the numbers or sound business principles will cause failure in an instant.

For the record, I do not think "anyone" can pick up a machine and do 20 minutes of online research and do what I, a professional, does. On a game show called "Are you smarter than a Pressure Washing Pro", I'd make contestants feel like kidergarten students.

Original poster... Sorry your thread got out of hand like it did.

[nepatsfan]

While anyone can be taught to use something, it is possible that the teacher is teaching a bad method. Keep reading the owners manual on a pressure washer, and I guarantee it is being used improperly.

Anyhow, that said, if it is TRUE that ANYONE can PROPERLY use a Pressure Washer, or Lawn Mower, it is also TRUE that "Not Just Anyone" can properly run a Profitable Business. This is why 9/10 fail. They simply are being run by "Just Anyone"

Not knowing the numbers or sound business principles will cause failure in an instant.

For the record, I do not think "anyone" can pick up a machine and do 20 minutes of online research and do what I, a professional, does. On a game show called "Are you smarter than a Pressure Washing Pro", I'd make contestants feel like kidergarten students.

Original poster... Sorry your thread got out of hand like it did.
Running a power washer or a lawn mower and running a business are two totally different things. Its funny how people make lawn mowing and power washing out to be a trade. :rolleyes:
Its not like being a mechanic or a carpenter or an electrician that requires some skill. Its monkey work just accept it. Lots of people dont want to do it. Running a business...takes some knowledge and can be very difficult at times. Lots of ups and downs and mistakes,money troubles, but as far as the work itself: You will never convince me that powerwashing....powerwashing???...really powerwashing!!!...takes skill. :laugh::laugh:Patience and a little instruction maybe, but seriously its not hard.

[snowman682]

I would guess that you have never stood behind a wand for 14 hours strait climbing up and down 40 foot ladders, for 4 days. let me come over to your house and show you how a monkey with no skill can wash your deck, then blow out your window and ruin your $5000 tv. NOT EVERY ONE IS BORN WITH COMMON SENSE!!!!

[nepatsfan]

I would guess that you have never stood behind a wand for 14 hours strait climbing up and down 40 foot ladders, for 4 days. let me come over to your house and show you how a monkey with no skill can wash your deck, then blow out your window and ruin your $5000 tv. NOT EVERY ONE IS BORN WITH COMMON SENSE!!!!

Exactly...a little common sense. Or how bout I come to your house and drive a mower into the side of your car, then drive it into the house, then fling a rock through your slider, then flick a cigarette into the gas tank and blow up the mower. Then I will drive the dump truck we came in into the side of your house. This scenario is as ridiculous as yours. ITS A POWER WASHER...GET OVER YOURSELF.

[JCinNJ]

Exactly...a little common sense. Or how bout I come to your house and drive a mower into the side of your car, then drive it into the house, then fling a rock through your slider, then flick a cigarette into the gas tank and blow up the mower. Then I will drive the dump truck we came in into the side of your house. This scenario is as ridiculous as yours. ITS A POWER WASHER...GET OVER YOURSELF.

what are you, 19-20 years old?

[nepatsfan]

what are you, 19-20 years old?

I am 31. If you read the post above mine you will see what I was responding to. I was simply making a point about how ridiculous it was. I guess power washing is rocket science. Sorry....I am gonna sell my power washer. I dont think anyone is smart enough to run it. :laugh:

[JCinNJ]

31??? Your acting like a 19 year old kid that thinks he knows everything.
Do you have a power washing business or is it something you do on the side?
How long will it take you (alone) to wash a 2000 SF - 2 story home?
What would you charge for that service?
Which tips will you use?
How tall is your ladder for this job?
If the home owner would like to have their roof washed, are you equipped for that?

I will answer after you and that will show the difference between a professional and yourself

[nepatsfan]

31??? Your acting like a 19 year old kid that thinks he knows everything.
Do you have a power washing business or is it something you do on the side?
How long will it take you (alone) to wash a 2000 SF - 2 story home?
What would you charge for that service?
Which tips will you use?
How tall is your ladder for this job?
If the home owner would like to have their roof washed, are you equipped for that?

I will answer after you and that will show the difference between a professional and yourself

How old are you. I am not in the power washing business. If you look at my previous posts do not claim to know the business. I said there is a lot to know about lawn mowing and powerwashing BUSINESS. I really dont care how long it will take me to powerwash a 2 story home. I dont know what to charge for that. I would have to look at my manual to find out what tip to use...says it right in there but I dont remember off hand. I would probably use a 32 foot ladder but it would depend on the foundation and whether it was a walk out basement. I would probably use a 40 footer if it was in the back. I dont claim to know the power washing BUSINESS. RUNNING A POWER WASHER IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. STOP MAKING IT OUT TO BE. :hammerhead: My guys use my power washer to clean the machines, trucks, I use it for my own house. Guys borrow it from time to time to do their own houses too. I think maybe you should read my posts instead of trying to quiz me on the business. You take yourself very seriously and thats good but as far as running a power washer(i have repeated this several times)its not that hard, and its not a trade. GIVE ME A BREAK. its a glorified garden hose. Do you need a license to power wash? Is there a powerwashing trade school. Can you go to college for it:laugh: I didnt think so, because its not very challenging.

[nepatsfan]

Running a power washer or a lawn mower and running a business are two totally different things. Its funny how people make lawn mowing and power washing out to be a trade. :rolleyes:
Its not like being a mechanic or a carpenter or an electrician that requires some skill. Its monkey work just accept it. Lots of people dont want to do it. Running a business...takes some knowledge and can be very difficult at times. Lots of ups and downs and mistakes,money troubles, but as far as the work itself: You will never convince me that powerwashing....powerwashing???...really powerwashing!!!...takes skill. :laugh::laugh:Patience and a little instruction maybe, but seriously its not hard.
Read what I wrote here. Do you even read what I wrote before you get all defensive.

[nepatsfan]

31??? Your acting like a 19 year old kid that thinks he knows everything.
Do you have a power washing business or is it something you do on the side?
How long will it take you (alone) to wash a 2000 SF - 2 story home?
What would you charge for that service?
Which tips will you use?
How tall is your ladder for this job?
If the home owner would like to have their roof washed, are you equipped for that?

I will answer after you and that will show the difference between a professional and yourself
I know a few of those answers just because I have done my own house and my mothers house quite a few times but every question you asked could be easily figured out with minimal research. I have no desire to find out the stuff I dont know because I am not in the business nor do I want to be.

[JCinNJ]

just because you can drive a car does not make you qualified to run the Indy 500.

I can wash a 2000sf-2 story home in 45 minutes, NO ladders, NO scaffolding and the tips I use are NOT mentioned in ANY manual. That is a $250 job in my area.

With the proper training and tools, my 4gpm rig will wash up to 3 stories high and my 8gpm much higher, ALL without ladders and no custom work done on the machines. Also my machines are much higher quality than you will find in any of the box stores.

The funny thing is, you admit to not being in the power washing business yet you try to tell us how easy it is. By your thinking, anyone with a drill and pair of pliers can be a dentist, anyone with a bucket and paint brush can be a painter, heck spend the money on a knife and become a surgeon.

My point is this - you have no idea what you are talking about and you have no interest in learning so you should not be telling us how "easy" it is.

[slowleak1]

just because you can drive a car does not make you qualified to run the Indy 500.

I can wash a 2000sf-2 story home in 45 minutes, NO ladders, NO scaffolding and the tips I use are NOT mentioned in ANY manual. That is a $250 job in my area.

With the proper training and tools, my 4gpm rig will wash up to 3 stories high and my 8gpm much higher, ALL without ladders and no custom work done on the machines. Also my machines are much higher quality than you will find in any of the box stores.

The funny thing is, you admit to not being in the power washing business yet you try to tell us how easy it is. By your thinking, anyone with a drill and pair of pliers can be a dentist, anyone with a bucket and paint brush can be a painter, heck spend the money on a knife and become a surgeon.

My point is this - you have no idea what you are talking about and you have no interest in learning so you should not be telling us how "easy" it is.

And you are the allmighty "god of powerwashing"?

He is very right, there is no rocket science involved at all with power washing. You guys think your the bestr and no one else can do it. Was your very first powerwash job done with the equipment you have now? Im willing to bet that the answer is no. Im sure you started out just like everyone else did, with according to you "crappy" equipment; unless that is you started off of mommy and daddy money. I know I got to where I am by working hard and SUCCESSFULLY running my business, and producing 5 star restaurant work at MY prices. Every time someone new comes in here, like the op, ALL of you get your panties in a bunch and start telling them how only a pro can do it and they are gonna fail at being a powerwasher. It gets old. Big effin deal, you washed a house in 45 minutes with no ladder:dizzy: wanna cookie now?

My point is, you are not gods. you are not the only people that will run a successful powerwashing business. get over yourselves, you really are not that great:nono:

[nepatsfan]

just because you can drive a car does not make you qualified to run the Indy 500.

I can wash a 2000sf-2 story home in 45 minutes, NO ladders, NO scaffolding and the tips I use are NOT mentioned in ANY manual. That is a $250 job in my area.

With the proper training and tools, my 4gpm rig will wash up to 3 stories high and my 8gpm much higher, ALL without ladders and no custom work done on the machines. Also my machines are much higher quality than you will find in any of the box stores.

The funny thing is, you admit to not being in the power washing business yet you try to tell us how easy it is. By your thinking, anyone with a drill and pair of pliers can be a dentist, anyone with a bucket and paint brush can be a painter, heck spend the money on a knife and become a surgeon.

My point is this - you have no idea what you are talking about and you have no interest in learning so you should not be telling us how "easy" it is.
I cannot believe you would mention your powerwashing job in the same sentence as being a dentist or surgeon. LOL:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

WOW....Do you know how many years of school it takes for those jobs? You think you can use a surgeon or a dentists job as a comparison to POWER WASHING No I dont think I can pick up a knife or pliers and be a dentist or surgeon. I can however pick up a powerwasher and clean my house and have done it successfully several times. I think you need to re-evaluate yourself. How many years of powerwashing school did you go to. Did you have to do a residency....LOL a surgeon or a dentist....I have heard it all. BTW..painting is monkey work too.

[JCinNJ]

I am done trying to teach on this thread, you guys are not mature enough to even listen or ask questions.

I will say this, Thanks to guys like you, my business grows every year. You will be out of business or always broke year after year and thats a shame.

Good luck

[slowleak1]

I am done trying to teach on this thread, you guys are not mature enough to even listen or ask questions.

I will say this, Thanks to guys like you, my business grows every year. You will be out of business or always broke year after year and thats a shame.

Good luck

Please explain how I will go out of business? I have been doing this for 7 years now, no losses yet. Oh wait, thats right, in your mind no one is good like you.

Keep your macho attitude and go tell someone who cares. Your a freakin idiot, plain and simple.

[nepatsfan]

I am done trying to teach on this thread, you guys are not mature enough to even listen or ask questions.

I will say this, Thanks to guys like you, my business grows every year. You will be out of business or always broke year after year and thats a shame.

Good luck
10 years in business for me. Thanks for your concern. I am not looking to be taught by you. You dont answer any questions. You shoot out ridiculous comparisons and offer very little. All questions directed to you have been ignored and I have answered everything you have asked whether you like the answer or not. I do question your maturity level and the amount of time you have been in business though given your snappy answers and your lack of ability to read and understand someone elses point of view.

[poolboy]

I have no dog in this fight at all, but for the 2 fellows that really haven't anything positive to say, why are you here? They're is plenty of mud slinging in the Politics forum, see ya there.

[nepatsfan]

I guess I just tell things how they are. Might not always be positive I guess but I think its funny when guys talk about how important they are and no one can do what they do. Turning powerwashing into brain surgery just irks me for whatever reason.

[twobroslawns]

just because you can drive a car does not make you qualified to run the Indy 500.

I can wash a 2000sf-2 story home in 45 minutes, NO ladders, NO scaffolding and the tips I use are NOT mentioned in ANY manual. That is a $250 job in my area.

With the proper training and tools, my 4gpm rig will wash up to 3 stories high and my 8gpm much higher, ALL without ladders and no custom work done on the machines. Also my machines are much higher quality than you will find in any of the box stores.

The funny thing is, you admit to not being in the power washing business yet you try to tell us how easy it is. By your thinking, anyone with a drill and pair of pliers can be a dentist, anyone with a bucket and paint brush can be a painter, heck spend the money on a knife and become a surgeon.

My point is this - you have no idea what you are talking about and you have no interest in learning so you should not be telling us how "easy" it is.

I too have no dog in this fight, but I was wondering if you use a regular length wand and stand from the ground or have a telescoping wand or what? We power wash driveways and sidewalks - nothing that requires lifting the wand up: it is significantly harder to do a house, but not really hard. We use a whisper washer ground force which makes MOST of the job a no brainer, but you still need to know what you are doing.

[JCinNJ]

I too have no dog in this fight, but I was wondering if you use a regular length wand and stand from the ground or have a telescoping wand or what? We power wash driveways and sidewalks - nothing that requires lifting the wand up: it is significantly harder to do a house, but not really hard. We use a whisper washer ground force which makes MOST of the job a no brainer, but you still need to know what you are doing.

I use a 6" lance up to 2 stories, 36" for 3-4 stories and windy days. I use the big guy for flat work which is only small residential stuff (driveways, sidewalks, breezeways, etc...)

[twobroslawns]

So what if the house is sided? can you spray from the ground upward and not get water up under the boards? What type of nozzle do you use?

Saturday our gr0und force started vibrating, not like a mower might but it was almost pulling itself around in circles and the performance was a lot worse than usual. It is still a couple months old so it MUST still be under warrenty. I'm gonna bring it in soon.
On a different note, my brother put the white noxxle in our wand and didn't click it in and he shot it out into the woods. $7 down the drain. (no pun intended)

[twobroslawns]

I was thinking about this in the shower:

We both knoow that some skill is involved in both lines of work - mowing and washing. Can anyone run a ZTR, edger, hedgers, etc... Most likely not

Can anyone use a $1200 + power washer and do delicate trim work 3 stories in the air? No.

On the other hand, can anyone use a Home depot lawnboy ower and cut their grass? Yes, and it will probably look good with a few practices.

Can anyone use a powerwasher to clean their driveway? of course, but it won't look as even as professional stuff.

Obviously, a certain amount of skill is required to do more than simply mow grass or clean cement. Maybe they are trades, maybe they are occupations, who cares? As long as a viable service is being provided.

Thats it.

[snowman682]

EXACTLY!!!!!!! Some times it is boring and requires little skill, but you still need to know what you are doing, or you can cause some damage. Same with mowing too!!! This is the profession that we have chosen. It CAN be hard work, it can be challenging work, it also can be so simple a monkey can do it. The challenging work is what i love. And by the way, my buisness does professional washing, professional mowing, professional painting, and professional plowing. Comercial, residential and industrial. Gotta have some knowledge in all of them. No school for them. I am feeding my family of 4, and 3 other families. In todays economy, THAT is what is important. Who cares if somebody thinks a monkey can do my job, some times I wish I had one to do it for me!!!! I chose this lifestyle, I am proud of where I am at in life, and what I have earned. NOBODY handed me any money, mommy and daddy didnt help me out, didnt buy any buisness out. All from scratch. That is something to stand for, and I will!

[nepatsfan]

EXACTLY!!!!!!! Some times it is boring and requires little skill, but you still need to know what you are doing, or you can cause some damage. Same with mowing too!!! This is the profession that we have chosen. It CAN be hard work, it can be challenging work, it also can be so simple a monkey can do it. The challenging work is what i love. And by the way, my buisness does professional washing, professional mowing, professional painting, and professional plowing. Comercial, residential and industrial. Gotta have some knowledge in all of them. No school for them. I am feeding my family of 4, and 3 other families. In todays economy, THAT is what is important. Who cares if somebody thinks a monkey can do my job, some times I wish I had one to do it for me!!!! I chose this lifestyle, I am proud of where I am at in life, and what I have earned. NOBODY handed me any money, mommy and daddy didnt help me out, didnt buy any buisness out. All from scratch. That is something to stand for, and I will!

You are preaching to the choir buddy. I totally agree. I didn't say that you didnt need a little instruction, I am in the business too. I said I have trained the dumbest guys to mow. "trained" I am not ashamed of what I do either. Just saying it isnt rocket science.

[twobroslawns]

So what if the house is sided? can you spray from the ground upward and not get water up under the boards? What type of nozzle do you use?

Saturday our gr0und force started vibrating, not like a mower might but it was almost pulling itself around in circles and the performance was a lot worse than usual. It is still a couple months old so it MUST still be under warrenty. I'm gonna bring it in soon.
On a different note, my brother put the white noxxle in our wand and didn't click it in and he shot it out into the woods. $7 down the drain. (no pun intended)

Just a clogged tip. It's ok now:cool2:

So what if the house is sided? can you spray from the ground upward and not get water up under the boards? What type of nozzle do you use? :dizzy:

[JCinNJ]

Just a clogged tip. It's ok now:cool2:

So what if the house is sided? can you spray from the ground upward and not get water up under the boards? What type of nozzle do you use? :dizzy:

you guys have no interest in learning about Power washing and I understand that..

I am sure there are plenty of guys in your field of expertise that are not as skilled or knowledgeable as you so why not try to help them?

[N.TX]

Geeze, All I did was ask a question and then Yall sound like a bunch of 5 year old cry babies who dropped their candy in the dirt.

[twobroslawns]

you guys have no interest in learning about Power washing and I understand that..

I am sure there are plenty of guys in your field of expertise that are not as skilled or knowledgeable as you so why not try to help them?

But I actually am interested in learning not fighting. Have any mowing questions for me? I'd be happy to answer them:)

[nepatsfan]

But I actually am interested in learning not fighting. Have any mowing questions for me? I'd be happy to answer them:)

I wasnt looking for a fight either. I didnt realize it was a revelation that powerwashing and cutting grass wasnt rocket science or dentistry or surgical work. Apparently others think different?:confused: