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TX_yardguy
08-09-2010, 06:09 PM
Looking at adding this service next year. What time of the year is this recommended (Texas) and... do you guys mark the sprinkler heads 1st or is that not an issue?

mdlwn1
08-09-2010, 06:13 PM
Getting the heads marked properly is the single biggest factor that will affect your bottom line..figure out a way to do it your self.

Az Gardener
08-09-2010, 09:00 PM
For Bermuda grass and warm areas its a summer service, especially if you are going to over seed. While it is great for the soil and keeping the water from running off it is stressful on the lawn. If its actively growing its no problem. Do it in the fall and you are pulling the starch storage tanks for the Bermuda right out of the ground without time to recover. Rookie uneducated mistake. It will need those stored starches to vigorously break dormancy in the spring.

For the Midwest cool season guys they do it in the fall, something to do with frost, winter, whatever that is.

White Gardens
08-09-2010, 09:35 PM
For the Midwest cool season guys they do it in the fall, something to do with frost, winter, whatever that is.

Ha!

Ya we do it in the fall while the cool season grasses are thriving. This helps for a healthier root stand for over-wintering. That and if you are trying to get an over seeding established before winter.

No way would you catch anyone aerating up here this time of year. All the lawns have turned to a nice golden straw brown.

Smallaxe
08-10-2010, 09:29 AM
For Bermuda grass and warm areas its a summer service, especially if you are going to over seed. While it is great for the soil and keeping the water from running off it is stressful on the lawn. If its actively growing its no problem. Do it in the fall and you are pulling the starch storage tanks for the Bermuda right out of the ground without time to recover. Rookie uneducated mistake. It will need those stored starches to vigorously break dormancy in the spring.

For the Midwest cool season guys they do it in the fall, something to do with frost, winter, whatever that is.

There is an application to cool season grasses, in what you say as well. All grasses, need those storage tanks, for the winter. Aerating has the purpose of loosening compacted soils or punching through thatch. Is pretty useless as an overseeding strategy.

It is better to aerate in early summer, so that the ground can recover b4 the brown out. The ground is still pretty loose in the spring around here, from winter frezze/thaw cycles. Late summer is good because the ground will have time to recover, and store for the winter. Also, this is when the grasses are most actively growing and the nutrients are being applied. If it gets too late in the fall, and dormancy sets in early for the winter, the grasses are not properly prepared.

We are reluctant to expose roots to the summer sun and suface area to drying out. Not a problem for summer grasses?

turfcobob
08-10-2010, 10:15 AM
Ha!

Ya we do it in the fall while the cool season grasses are thriving. This helps for a healthier root stand for over-wintering. That and if you are trying to get an over seeding established before winter.

No way would you catch anyone aerating up here this time of year. All the lawns have turned to a nice golden straw brown.

Here in Nebraska we went from too much water to my lawn is now sitting on one giant rock hard brick. You could not aerate here if you had to.


Texas guy be careful of underground electric dog fence. It is usually buried 3 inches under the lawn. If you aerator is any good at all it will get the dog fence and you will be in for a big repair bill. If they have electric dog fence I would pass on the propertry.

Kiril
08-10-2010, 10:17 AM
Aeration should be done when the turf is actively growing .... that is pretty much it. Now if you want to take into consideration how turf grows and potential responses to aeration, then it becomes a tad more difficult.

Mark Oomkes
08-10-2010, 10:46 AM
Ha!

Ya we do it in the fall while the cool season grasses are thriving. This helps for a healthier root stand for over-wintering. That and if you are trying to get an over seeding established before winter.

No way would you catch anyone aerating up here this time of year. All the lawns have turned to a nice golden straw brown.

There is an application to cool season grasses, in what you say as well. All grasses, need those storage tanks, for the winter. Aerating has the purpose of loosening compacted soils or punching through thatch. Is pretty useless as an overseeding strategy.

It is better to aerate in early summer, so that the ground can recover b4 the brown out. The ground is still pretty loose in the spring around here, from winter frezze/thaw cycles. Late summer is good because the ground will have time to recover, and store for the winter. Also, this is when the grasses are most actively growing and the nutrients are being applied. If it gets too late in the fall, and dormancy sets in early for the winter, the grasses are not properly prepared.

We are reluctant to expose roots to the summer sun and suface area to drying out. Not a problem for summer grasses?

You guys haven't been paying attention. TG does it all summer long. Even have a couple "lawn care" companies that do it throughout the summer. Wet, dry, drought, floods, cool, hot; doesn't matter.

But we all know TG is an above board, reputable, knows what they're doing type company.

White Gardens
08-10-2010, 11:03 AM
Here in Nebraska we went from too much water to my lawn is now sitting on one giant rock hard brick. You could not aerate here if you had to.

Same here. First time in three years I've seen it this dry. The ground is as hard as a rock.


You guys haven't been paying attention. TG does it all summer long. Even have a couple "lawn care" companies that do it throughout the summer. Wet, dry, drought, floods, cool, hot; doesn't matter.

But we all know TG is an above board, reputable, knows what they're doing type company.


Good ol TG, screwing up lawns for an extra buck. With the dry conditions we've had lately, you would probably end up killing lawns that weren't irrigated if you aerated now. Not to mention the temps have been in the nineties the last three weeks.

RABBITMAN11
08-10-2010, 03:34 PM
Here in Nebraska we went from too much water to my lawn is now sitting on one giant rock hard brick. You could not aerate here if you had to.


Texas guy be careful of underground electric dog fence. It is usually buried 3 inches under the lawn. If you aerator is any good at all it will get the dog fence and you will be in for a big repair bill. If they have electric dog fence I would pass on the propertry.
You could if you had a lawn solutions ride on aerator! It will pull two inch plugs out of tree roots!

ArTurf
08-10-2010, 11:05 PM
Looking at adding this service next year. What time of the year is this recommended (Texas) and... do you guys mark the sprinkler heads 1st or is that not an issue?

I am assuming you are dealing with warm season grasses; bermuda, St Aug, zoysia & maybe centipede. I am located in south Arkansas which is probably similar to your environment. The time to aerate warm season grasses would be late spring after full green up. It can be done a 2nd time if needed as long as the grass is actively growing and the property is getting water. I would not do it too late in the year when the grass is starting to go dormant as it needs some healing time.

You need to mark the sprinkler heads with flags. The best way is with a remote but you probably do not have one if you are not in irrigation and many controllers are not set up for this. It would save you time if there were 2 people to flag the heads; one to operate the controller and one to flag. Also be aware some lines may be shallow due to erosion or installation. Tell the home owner before that you will not be responsible for damage to lines.