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08-02-2002, 05:28 PM
what formula do you guys use for prices on square footage?:blob2:
08-02-2002, 05:33 PM
Depends, what are you pricing?
08-02-2002, 05:34 PM
08-03-2002, 12:48 AM
.003 x sq.ft for mowing (includes trimming around house)
.035 x ft for edging
.25 per obstacle after 5
08-29-2002, 11:50 PM
greenman is on the right track
i think you need to up your sq.ft. rate to .005 - .006 a sq.ft.
i get $25 to $30 for a 5,000 sq.ft. lawn includes trimming blowing.
the .003 X 5,000 = $15.00 can't make no $$$ at that rate :eek:
drop the obstacle charge you'll make it up with the higher sq.ft. rate
edging rate ok
reading in the prices thread randyj's difficulty multiplier of 1.0 to 1.5 just wonding if the difficulty factor goes higher than 1.5
just my .02
you plant it, I,ll maintain it
08-30-2002, 12:20 AM
I've been using this for my area w/ good results, sometimes I even come in a little low. Minimum is $45, no exceptions. Everything is over 10k.
2.75 per thousand (turf only!), rounded to nearest multiple of 5, for everthing... mow (bagged/removed), trim, edge, blow. PITA factor of between .25 and .75. Possible discount for large areas that dont require bagging.
Average 25ksq/ft lawn = usually about $75.
My best money maker is a 67k w/ half bagged for $200. Takes me alone around 2hr to make it immaculate... 3 in spring :eek:
08-30-2002, 12:39 AM
I forgot to say that I have a minimum of $25. If I think it is more than my minimum that's when I measure. Ex. 10000sq.ft property with minmal trimming,edging(couple tress, fenced back yard, smalldriveway, etc) is around $35 or $40.
08-30-2002, 12:46 AM
I have recently brought it to .0035 per sq. ft. w/ no obstacle charge or edging charge if it is minimal. Alot of trimming or edging gets the difficulty factor. I think it works better for me. I think parkmaster was right to suggest that.:)
08-30-2002, 01:10 AM
Am I missing something or are you guys getting $87.50 for a 25k, or $125 at the .005 end of the scale?! :eek: :eek: :eek:
Is this for entire lot measurements? Including house? Holy cow, I thought I was in the high range. :confused: And I BAG everything.
08-30-2002, 10:46 AM
If that's the case, anyone using these formulas wouldn't be in business around here. No way. Around here, a 1/2 acre lot (standard subdivision) lgoes for 30 to 45 per cut. 45 being the high end, with competition. Also, there ARE exeptions, and some lots may go for as low as 25 per cut for seniors. When you go bigger in lots, then the cost increases respectively.
08-30-2002, 06:35 PM
No need for formulas on mowing. We charge $65 per hour for straight cutting. Done.
To me, that's plain and simple...just the way I like it:D
08-30-2002, 11:21 PM
yeah that about right $87.5 or so. This formual is for small to medium sized properties. When I get into properties over 20k the formula is .0022 for the mowing. trim and edge are not included in that. over 1 acre, .0015.
08-30-2002, 11:22 PM
rodfather- wish i was making 65 per hour
09-01-2002, 06:16 AM
This is a bit off the topic but this weekend I just re-figured my fixed and variable costs and my large equipment depreciation. I can't get $65 an hour here...but I need to get at least in the upper $50's to stay in business and make a modest income. We're just fooling ourselves if we're not honest about these significant hourly costs. And dont forget travel time...either the job you just did or the one you are going to needs to cover travel time. Its been said on this forum many times that we need to know our costs and price accordingly. Sam Scrub might not know his costs and thinks he's making big bucks mowing...of course if I follow his pricing habits I'll end up in the same soup line with him...
09-01-2002, 11:20 AM
kitzy you are right about hourly costs. Everyones is different. My formula works for me, but it may not work for anyone else. Im not making 65 per hour either.
09-01-2002, 06:43 PM
Depends on equipment you run, terrain, obstacles, but especially....
Who's doing the work. A formula can work if you are doing the work and there is consistency involved (same route, same employee or helper, etc...)
But to bid this way with multiple crews out there with different levels of experience, drive, determination, skill, etc.... can get awfully tricky, awfully quick.
Worse than that.....unprofitable.
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