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Turf Ranger
08-03-2002, 02:04 AM
I bought a dixie chopper x2001 with the 20hp kohler command in june. Bought it brand new. Ever sence I bought it, it blows white smoke when I start it. I just thought it was cause it was new. Well i called my dealer about it, he said there was probably just to much oil in it, or cause it was just new. So I gave it more time. Then I took it over to my dealer and let him take a look at it. He said it had a little to much oil in it, and that the smoke was just oil being burned. So today I changed the oil in, thinking it would stop the smoke, WRONG. The dealership is acting like they are trying to avoid working on it just cause its under warranty. I am open to any suggestions that anyone might have to fix this problem. Oh ya, and the mechanic/slalesman there also told me to run 10w40? I decided to go with 10W30 like the manual said... Should i change dealers????-- thanks

strickdad
08-03-2002, 04:02 AM
your leaving yourself open for the kawasaki boys to say "i told you so"

Richard Martin
08-03-2002, 04:39 AM
I would stick with the recommended 10w30. My Dixie with 25 Kohler will do the same thing if a) there is just a tick too much oil in the engine or b) I don't allow it to idle for a minute or two before shutting it off especially in hot weather. This engine smoking problem seems to be generally confined (from what I've seen first hand and read here at Lawnsite) to Dixie Choppers with 22" rear tires. The engine tilts back towards the cylinders on these mowers and too much oil may probably be running into the lowest cylinder when the mower is not running.

captdevo
08-03-2002, 04:58 AM
common, nothing to stress over.

stick with the proper level of kohler 10wx30, idle before shutting down, and it'll reduce it.

Russ
08-04-2002, 01:35 PM
Captdevo & Richard Martin both gave ya good advice. Every Kohler/DC I've had did it and there has never been a problem. Just be sure there is no oil leaking from the head gasket and let it idle a minute before you shut it off.

LAWNGODFATHER
08-04-2002, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by strickdad
your leaving yourself open for the kawasaki boys to say "i told you so"

The problem would be worse then.:D

awm
08-04-2002, 07:28 PM
jus tell anybody that ask, its a dixie feature ,so u can leave everybody in u smoke.:)

Alan Bechard
08-04-2002, 07:44 PM
My dixon 60" does this as well, I thought it was a problem but could never sort out what was causing it.

Thanks.

Al B

DLS1
08-04-2002, 09:23 PM
I am demoing a 2000 Exmark lazer hp/23 hp Kawa engine and I notice it does creates white smoke when I start it. I just turn it off as soon as I am done so maybe I should idle it a few minutes before I shut if off. The engine runs smooth so I am assuming it is normal for the engine.

Likestomow
08-04-2002, 10:22 PM
I have a 2000 DC with the 25hp Kohler and it too will smoke sometimes if the oil level is slightly over the full line. But I don't mind keeping mine a little over full so I don't have to worry about running low on oil. The smoking at times is no big problem.

What you should be concerned about is if the engine is smoking and loosing power. I'm sure you know that is mostly caused by a blown head gasket, and you can pull the left spark plug to check for that.

Jman
08-05-2002, 11:27 AM
Is it using any oil? If the answer is no I wouldn't worry about it. Most people say that goes away after 100-150 hours. It is the oil puddling in the cylinder bore after it is shut off. On a horizontal shaft the oil runs down into the engine, on the vertical shaft it just sits in the cylinder and will burn on start up just for a moment.

gorrell
08-05-2002, 07:50 PM
I have 7 of the cv-20 vertical shaft Kohler engines to which you're referring. Some of mine sometimes emit a puff of white smoke upon starting, but quit immediately. None of these engines use oil between changes. I don't think you have anything to worry about............Lynn

Turf Ranger
08-06-2002, 12:40 AM
thanks alot for all the advice. I do let it idle befor i shut it down. Sometimes also when we get ready to go out in the mornings, I choke it, and it will almost stop starting, then start. Does anyone know what is up with that? Anyways, thanks again

Richard Martin
08-06-2002, 05:08 AM
Again mine does the same thing. You're catching a cold, tight (read that as still new) engine on the compression stroke. It's normal.