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Expert Lawns
08-03-2002, 08:59 AM
i was wondering how you go about pricing fall cleanups. this is my first year having to do several of them. i know this may only apply to some of you guys, but the ones that know a little about it, please fill me in. all my lawns are residentials and not too pricey. none of them will be too overwhelming when it come to fall cleanup, i just need a few ideas to work with. thanks

:D

Bob Minney
08-03-2002, 09:46 AM
Estimate time needed to do job , X my hourly rate. Give customer a total $ figure.

Just Cut
08-03-2002, 10:18 AM
6 times the amount of the regular weekly cutting price, which does not include disposal fee:)

Premo Services
08-03-2002, 11:14 AM
[Expert Lawns] i was wondering how you go about pricing fall cleanups. this is my first year having to do several of them.

It would depend greatly on the type of equiptment that you have.

The ideas about figuring out how long it will take you and charge hourly rate and give customer the total are good if you know how long it will take you with your equiptment.( REMEMBER, LEAF CLEANUP WILL ALWAYS TAKE LONGER THAN YOU THINK IT WILL) At first it might be easier to do cleanups for an hourly rate, until you do some, and learn the tricks to make them easier, then it would be wise to do a total job price.
A couple years ago, I went to doing a "mini cleanup" every week for my regular customers. It has worked out very well for them and me also. they like the idea, because the leaves are not setting around, blowing in their houses, garages, etc. Also it looks better throughout the leaf season instead of waiting until they all fall..

agrostis palustris
08-03-2002, 03:26 PM
I try to do 3 clean-ups for each of my customers each leaf season. The first one is when about half the leaves are down. Second is once the bulk of them are down. Third is once things have slowed down and you are just going back to pick up the little BS.

rider1000
08-03-2002, 08:06 PM
Agree with everyone else, charge an hourly rate. Do them every week until your done. We charge $40.00 p.m.h. plus $2.00 per bag disposal fee. Do not do anything without a signed contract. Had a lady call us last year in a panic (not a regular customer) wanting a cleanup done. Did it without a contract, she said we charged too much. Took her to small claims court and the judge ruled in her favor. We had about 20 other customers who pay us to do the same with no problems.

gravedigger5
08-04-2002, 06:46 AM
:cry: .( REMEMBER, LEAF CLEANUP WILL ALWAYS TAKE LONGER THAN YOU THINK IT WILL) This is an understatement. Last year I was in your boat, trying to figure out how to bid. Didn't do bad except one yard lost my *****. Had huge oaks ( I mean GIGANTIC oaks) lot size about 80' x150' , only had rake, hand held blower, tarps and 1ton dump. I hauled off 7 loads and it took me almost 3 days. (by myself) Got backpack blowers now, and planning on getting a Billy Goat debris loader soon, and probably hire some part-time help this fall.:help: As far as prices I kept raising mine last fall and only lost one (and I think that guy was just tight) good luck Marc


Are We Having Fun Yet???

wriken
08-04-2002, 07:56 AM
agrostis palustris

How much extra do you charge when you do your 3 mini-clean-ups. I will probably do the same thing for my regular customers, do you guys send letter to all clients to let them know of increase during fall clean-up time. I did'nt do any fall clean-ups last year, but my spring was a total price and that turned out pretty good. thanks

lawnboy11
08-04-2002, 08:50 AM
clean-up every week until thanksgiving then one last one before xmas. Charge same weekly price then 6 times or so per week for the last one.

homey
08-04-2002, 09:09 AM
"Expert Lawns"....How can you call youself an expert? I have been involved in the horticulture industry for four decades, I have a Master's in public garden administration, and a Bachelor's in Plant Science. I would be an expert, maybe. But you, expert? I'm sure you're nice and all, but isn't it false advertising? Gimme a break. Why not just start a medical practice and call yourself a doctor?

DLS1
08-04-2002, 09:30 AM
Hey Homey, give Expert Lawns a break. I assume that is his goal to be an expert. I hope you consider yourself an expert after 4 decades. With your degree I would consider you an expert after a few years of on the job experience to go along with the book learning you had in college. Are you upset because you have a degree and probably making about the same per hour as lawn service business people without any college. Thats life. You won't always earn more than someone without a degree. Look at Bill Gates. Its all about attitude and drive/desire to make your business work which is why he is asking questions on lawnsite.

Have a nice day and get an attitude adjustment and life will look better to you. :D :D

Expert Lawns
08-04-2002, 09:32 AM
hey homey. i put a lot of thought into the name of my business. a name like that sounds better than just my initials with "lawncare'' after it. why do morons like you have to come in here with negative feedback? really shows how classy you are.

Homey Lawncare?? are P. Diddy and Tupac gonna come mow my lawn if i hire you?

Why don't you clean your own house before cleaning everyone elses.

Expert Lawns
08-04-2002, 09:38 AM
LSDLS, i agree with you. this is my 2nd year in the biz. i graduated high school with honors and i had the choice of moving away to a 4 year college and getting my degree or staying here and working. so it was MY choice and i'm happy with it. college will always be there. i'm happy with what i'm doing with my life. if i'm mowing lawns why would i waste my time getting a masters in plant science?

homey
08-04-2002, 09:46 AM
mmmmmmm, i love controversy. And I make more than both of you put together so ha!

1MajorTom
08-04-2002, 09:56 AM
Homey:

Welcome to Lawnsite.

Glad business is booming for you in "New Jersey". I'm sure you will be able to be a valuable asset to this site with all with your experience. But please don't "join" this site to try and start controversy.

Thanks

Administrator
08-04-2002, 10:00 AM
^my thoughts

DLS1
08-04-2002, 10:09 AM
So tell us what you do. Do you own a mowing business or ????

ACER
08-04-2002, 10:11 AM
I have been involved in the horticulture industry for four decades Come on guys give Homey a break, according to his profile he is 41 years old and has been in the industry for 40 years!! He's got to be good to start at such an early age. Guess through all of Homey's education he skipped math.

DLS1
08-04-2002, 11:16 AM
I saw his profile ACER and it didn't make sense. I guess he moved on to harass other web sites since he didn't get us stirred up enough to to suit his needs.

Whatever site he moved on to he probably is an expert there also.

Expert Lawns
08-04-2002, 12:04 PM
i cant stand the people that come here and put all their effort into 'trying' to start controversay. i'm here to better myself and my business. everyone seems to be here for the same reason too. of course there are the few bad apples. i think we should stay on topic COUGH(homey)COUGH.

thank you those of you who gave me some insite on the fall cleanup jobs, it helped a lot

SJR Lawncare
08-04-2002, 04:20 PM
I have backpack blowers, little wonder push blower, tarps, mowers, snow shovels to push piles of leaves to the curb. Then I suck them into my 1 ton dump with a billy goat leaf vacuum. I charge $30/per man hour plus $30/truckload & I have more work than I can handle. This year I may up my rates. Good luck. Hope this helps a little.

Steve