View Full Version : New Chevy/GMC C4500 Kodiak med-duty

Albemarle Lawn
08-10-2002, 10:41 PM
This is a really nice new truck. Sat in one today with the Duramax. 16,000 GVW should be great for a Millenium enclosed landscape body or an open landscape body.

Here's a link:

The motor is partially in a doghouse. It's snub-nosed but more nose than a van. GM claims a tighter turning radius than a midsize car.

Thinking of buying one to replace the Mitsubishi-Fuso below, although it would break my heart, the Mitsu is just a baby with 17K original miles.

Gravel Rat
08-11-2002, 12:02 AM
Personally I wouldn't buy one of those new 4500s the cab is way to large for getting into tight spaces with it actually I would buy a 550 instead. If I was going to spec a landscape truck it would be a T-300 Kenworth with a low side box or a dumping flatdeck atleast with this truck you could carry a load.

Just my personal opinion is if the truck doesn't say Ford or Kenworth on it I won't buy it.

08-11-2002, 09:59 AM
you left out mack .they are one hell of a truck :D

Albemarle Lawn
08-11-2002, 10:45 PM
And, GM claims the turning radius is LESS THAN THE AVERAGE MIDSIZE CAR!!!

Guys I parked my Mitsubishi-Fuso next to one of these and the cab is not that much longer, plus cab to rear axle offers more usable space because the engine is not under the cab like the Mitsubishi or Chevy/Isuzu W4500 Cabover.

The minimum gross is 16,000 which is comparable to the Mitsubishi or Isuzu's 14,500 gross.

Here is a link...this is a NEW NEW 2003 model, click on it you probably haven't seen this beauty yet.

AND a 4X4 is supposed to be offered starting in January.



Gravel Rat
08-11-2002, 11:28 PM
No offence or Chevy bashing but I looked at the attached photo and it looks like they cut and pasted in the trailer with the mini on it. You look at the truck and you can tell it was moving when the picture was taken by the blurryness on the wheels but look at the trailers wheels they are at a dead stop.

I would probably wait a year before considering buying one of these new ugly looking trucks by that time the bugs might be worked out or Chevy will scrap the idea of these trucks. If they are trying to aim these for Work/Personal use trucks its not gonna work not like F-450 and F-550 where you can use these trucks for a daily driver if you choose todo so and they look like a P/U truck from a distance. You could spot that chevy from a mile away it sticks out like a sore thumb a real DOT attractor better watch out for being overloaded.

4 Saisons
08-12-2002, 10:19 AM
about the pic, the jack on the trailer is also on the lower positition.

08-12-2002, 09:19 PM
What you see is the mudflaps...

08-14-2002, 12:42 AM
I would have to agree with Ford, KW, or Mack.

The F 550 is rated at 26K lbs gross. A lot more than the 16K lbs for the 4500.
My F 250 is rated at 20K and I have had 29 and 30K lbs plenty of times.

Albemarle Lawn
08-14-2002, 01:48 PM
That would be the GCVW, Gross Combined Vehicle Weight, meaning truck and trailer.

Try to put 16K on your F250 without a trailer. You would have to pour the bed full of lead to get that much weight on given the space of a pickup. And if you did, you might be able to putt around a parking lot a few laps before the truck died.

Yes I like Mack and KW. But I'm talking about just enough truck to haul 3 ZTR mowers or a bobcat, etc. ON THE TRUCK not on a trailer behind it.

Here we have a lot of cramped properties where a trailer is a real PITA so what I'm getting at is eliminating the trailer.

08-14-2002, 02:25 PM
16K lbs in the bed would be extreme. The motor wouldn't die the suspension would give out. Shoot I have had 30K lbs. gross plenty of times and the PS will drag that just fine.

Gravel Rat
08-14-2002, 04:14 PM
If you are after a tightspot truck stay away from the F-550 and F-450 with the 162 wheelbase these trucks need a acre to turn around. I have a 88 F-Superduty with a 161WB and I have troubles getting into places people want me togo usually is the road is 7 feet wide with brush and trees on either sides and its a back in job up to 1/2 a mile :mad:

The worst thing I hate is the saying ohya you can make it and get there with the load and its this terrible little goat trail driveway that is barely wide enough to have the truck pass through without ripping the mirrors off my truck.

One job I was on I had to haul 2 7000 pound loads of sand to a guy that was doing a concrete slab for a garage well anyways the driveway was damn near 45 degrees and I had to back down it. The driveway was just top dressed with crusher dust so it was slippery and I could only back down in one pass I couldn't drive ahead to adjust. The front wheels ended up locking up and the truck slid the 40 feet down the road to the slab site I got the load dumped and I was really worried about getting back out. I put the truck in first gear and creeped really slowly and I was surprised I made it the second load went about the same I would never do that again without a 4x4.

Back to the point if you want a truck with a good turning radius stick with the funny looking COE trucks like a GMC W-5000 they got about the tightest turning radius.

08-19-2002, 05:46 PM
is that kodiak cdl required and does it have airbrakes?

i didnt know the f-550 had a gvwr at 26,000, but nice to know

Gravel Rat
08-19-2002, 09:04 PM
The 550 has a GCWR of 26,000 pounds pulling a trailer a 550 doesn't have a GVW of 26,000 pounds its max GVW is 17,000lbs on most applications.

You guys south of the boarder have the stupid rule that requires you to hold a CDL to drive a truck with a GVW over 26,000 pounds :rolleyes:

Here in B.C. Canada a holder of a regular DL can drive any single axle truck with a GVW upto 35,000 pounds but you probably will need a air endorsement because a heavy single will have air brakes.

It don't matter for me I'am a commercial driver anyhow so I have a CDL.

08-19-2002, 10:30 PM
well , it aint that we cant drive em, its just that we dont make the rules.......lol

but then again, every here and there a rule is broken

08-19-2002, 11:13 PM
Gravel Rat you are right. I looked in my '02 book on Ford Super Duty specs. F 550 MAX pay load is 17,500 lbs.
They also say for my F 250 GCWR is 20K and pay load is 12,500. That is good for a laugh. Every time I haul cars I am over weighted. HMM.
Ford has stuff so down rated for what it really can do.

As far as the US requiring CDL. I stand behind that 100%. There are way too many idiots on the road as it is. Requiring a CDL makes it just a little bit harder for some of them to get legal. That is a good thing.