PDA

View Full Version : Just Starting out-SOLO


chadslawncare
10-09-2010, 06:59 AM
I am new to this and just started out. I wanted to introduce myself and let you all see what I have been doing the past 6 weeks. I have purchased a new F150 on 8-13-10 and in 6 weeks, decided to go solo, purchased 2010 Toro Z500 60", 7 x 12 ft trailer dual with brakes, Echo equipment and Boss 7.5 ft plow. It is now time to go to work. The leaves are getting ready to fall here in northeast Ohio and I have 8 clients as of this morning. And away we go.......:headphones:
201665
201668
201671
201672
201673

SNAPPER MAN
10-09-2010, 07:12 AM
Best of luck to you. You made great choices on all your equipment. I respect you a lot for starting with quality equipment instead of working with junk like a scrub. Best of luck to you!
Posted via Mobile Device

jwlandscapepj
10-09-2010, 08:59 AM
:drinkup::usflag:Congratulations, I wish you the best of luck.I Started out 3 years ago, and I am so happy I did.Keep your head up and continue pushing.You will have down days,but do not let it stop you motivation and why you decide to get into the business.One thing I do recomend is that you become licence and insured if you are not,and put logo on you truck.Potential customers like that and you will grow you business faster that way.
Again,wish you the best of luck and never look back

bobcat48
10-09-2010, 09:58 AM
I wish you alot of luck.nice echos and toro i got the same echop trimmer srm 225 its a great little trimmer and i like there new bp blower.again good luck.

Capemay Eagle
10-09-2010, 11:47 AM
What is the model number on the Echo backpack? How do you like it.

chadslawncare
10-09-2010, 01:09 PM
I thank you all for the welcome. The blowers are PB-755 an PB-255 and the trimmer is SRM-225. I am very glad to have joined this site and hope to here alot more from you all, thanks again.
Chad :waving:

gobblet
10-09-2010, 06:26 PM
Now let the work begin! A couple of things work hard but not too hard, to hurt yourself. When the money comes in and there is extra, put it away under your pillow. Do things legit and make the best of what you have.

StihlMechanic
10-09-2010, 07:05 PM
Nice z500, they are bullet proof

Mattsmowing99
10-09-2010, 07:23 PM
Great looking stuff!! If you ever need anything i live one city over in Munroe Falls!
Best of Luck!

Puddle of Oil
10-09-2010, 09:12 PM
good to see some guys on here in my area. stuff looks good man, i like the truck! just don't venture too far south!:laugh::laugh:

lawnpro724
10-09-2010, 09:44 PM
I wish you luck but I would have waited to get alot more customers before plunging that far into debt. Your overhead to income has got to be high. I have seen a bunch of guys do the same thing only to regret it. Slow steady growth and low overhead are the keys to success. I'm not trying to rain on your parade. I want everyone to succeed in this business. Good luck.

thu cutting edge
10-10-2010, 09:13 PM
what did that f150 set u back. i bought one in may and got it for 26 out the door. also with the plow they told me since i had this fx4 series that i wouldnt be able to put a plow on it. it has something to do with the electronic suspension system. but when the arrenty is u i will put one on.

chadslawncare
10-11-2010, 04:48 AM
The F150 was alot more than what you paid, 36 out the door. The Boss is the lighter duty plow called a Sport Duty. It is about 150 pound lighter than the standard duty and is made for 1/2 tons.

thu cutting edge
10-11-2010, 05:55 AM
I got a very good deal with mine its a 4.6 4x4 extended cab power windows 6spd tranny. My dad works for BGE and they get a very good discount. So I put the truck in my name instead of the company name. I also get life time engine and tranny
Posted via Mobile Device

SNAPPER MAN
10-11-2010, 07:24 AM
Damn Is your truck a lariet? If not you got ripped off big time IMO.
Posted via Mobile Device

MR-G
10-11-2010, 08:22 AM
good luck to you...I hope you dont just end up working to pay the bank though...key will be to pay back as fast as possible....dont just make min. due pymnts....if in fact you financed all your stuff....if not you will be in trouble in year 3-4 when it comes time to replace everything if you owe on it.....it can be done...just keep those blades turning and that plow pushing.....best regards.:usflag:

mowerdude777
10-11-2010, 04:14 PM
NICE to see someone who is starting out and has sweet equipment best of luck to you

93Chevy
10-11-2010, 04:22 PM
You plan on putting all the bagged grass in the back of your truck? It'll fill up fast with the shorter bed.

Nice equipment. Good luck.

xclusive
10-11-2010, 06:37 PM
I wish you the best of luck!! Nice equipment!!

Truitt Lawn Maintenance
10-11-2010, 09:20 PM
:dancing:now lets see some jobs!!

h2oskier
10-11-2010, 11:24 PM
Uh i need a new truck, think you could hook a fellow lawn brother up with the CASH?:laugh::cool2::laugh:

rcslawncare
10-12-2010, 01:47 AM
Nice set up, hope you get use out of it! Post some on the job pictures!!

chadslawncare
10-12-2010, 05:15 PM
Thanks Matt for the welcome. We will probably run into eachother eventally.
Until then, CUL8R
Chad

chadslawncare
10-12-2010, 05:20 PM
Andy, thanks for the welcome. I will not go past North Canton but anywhere north of that is far game. Also anywhere north of that, we may run into eachother sometime.
Until then, CU2
Chad

THEGOLDPRO
10-12-2010, 06:51 PM
if my math is correct, it looks like you spent close to 60k on everything and only have 8 accounts???

AuburnHort2005
10-12-2010, 07:04 PM
I'm sure he'll be using the truck for personal use too, just like everyone else on here.

cleansweeplawncare
10-12-2010, 08:06 PM
Best of luck with the business!!!

eatonpcat
10-12-2010, 08:09 PM
if my math is correct, it looks like you spent close to 60k on everything and only have 8 accounts???

Maybe he has a better pricing plan than you...If not keep your eyes open and I am sure we will see some quality/lightly used equipment for sale in the near future (cheap)!! :drinkup:

THEGOLDPRO
10-12-2010, 10:48 PM
I'm sure he'll be using the truck for personal use too, just like everyone else on here.

who cares what he uses it for, point stands he only has 10 accounts bringing some money in.

M RASCOE&SONS
10-12-2010, 11:29 PM
to be honest the stuff looks good but a little to much overhead for starting out.best of luck to you.

THEGOLDPRO
10-12-2010, 11:34 PM
i have seen MULTIPLE people fail in this business by doing this exact same thing, get all excited, buy 50-60k worth of equipment with little to no work to cover the payments, hoping to pick up more clients right away only to fall flat on their faces and sell it all.

the smart thing to do is start small, start slow, and work your way up the ladder, only buy things when you need them not because you want them.

beamslawnservice
10-12-2010, 11:50 PM
i have seen MULTIPLE people fail in this business by doing this exact same thing, get all excited, buy 50-60k worth of equipment with little to no work to cover the payments, hoping to pick up more clients right away only to fall flat on their faces and sell it all.

the smart thing to do is start small, start slow, and work your way up the ladder, only buy things when you need them not because you want them.

+1 great advice

M RASCOE&SONS
10-13-2010, 12:00 AM
i have seen MULTIPLE people fail in this business by doing this exact same thing, get all excited, buy 50-60k worth of equipment with little to no work to cover the payments, hoping to pick up more clients right away only to fall flat on their faces and sell it all.

the smart thing to do is start small, start slow, and work your way up the ladder, only buy things when you need them not because you want them.

:drinkup: :drinkup:

zak406
10-13-2010, 12:23 PM
i have seen MULTIPLE people fail in this business by doing this exact same thing, get all excited, buy 50-60k worth of equipment with little to no work to cover the payments, hoping to pick up more clients right away only to fall flat on their faces and sell it all.

the smart thing to do is start small, start slow, and work your way up the ladder, only buy things when you need them not because you want them.

Agreed however i wish you the best of luck....

jntaylor
10-13-2010, 08:01 PM
i have seen MULTIPLE people fail in this business by doing this exact same thing, get all excited, buy 50-60k worth of equipment with little to no work to cover the payments, hoping to pick up more clients right away only to fall flat on their faces and sell it all.

the smart thing to do is start small, start slow, and work your way up the ladder, only buy things when you need them not because you want them.

Well said!^^^

His equipment and truck is nicer than many established LCO's. I'm afraid we might see a "package deal" or "liquidation sale" ad in the equipment and marketplace section next year.

slave2lawns
10-14-2010, 05:10 PM
Yeah GOLD PRO brings up a good point. I dont wanna bring you down but maybe this will somehow give you more of an incentive to strive and prove everyone wrong. Best of luck.

SNAPPER MAN
10-14-2010, 06:00 PM
Has it occurred to any of you guys that some people go into this business with capital and have a very well planned out business plan. Not everyone wants to start with a 21 just doing lawns. Some people actually have studied and planned out everything. Not saying this guy has but it is defiantly a possibility.
Posted via Mobile Device

THEGOLDPRO
10-14-2010, 08:16 PM
Has it occurred to any of you guys that some people go into this business with capital and have a very well planned out business plan. Not everyone wants to start with a 21 just doing lawns. Some people actually have studied and planned out everything. Not saying this guy has but it is defiantly a possibility.
Posted via Mobile Device

thats irrelevent, he has 50-60k in new equipment and only has 10 lawns, i highly doubt those 10 lawns are bringing in enough money to cover his payments right now. i didnt say he had to use push mowers but their is nothing wring with a decient used trailer,truck and 48-52 used walkbehind, then upgrade as the years pass when you pick up more work and make more money.

eatonpcat
10-14-2010, 08:18 PM
Has it occurred to any of you guys that some people go into this business with capital and have a very well planned out business plan. Not everyone wants to start with a 21 just doing lawns. Some people actually have studied and planned out everything. Not saying this guy has but it is defiantly a possibility.
Posted via Mobile Device

Not such a good plan Snapper Man....He paid more for his f150 gasser than you did for your f250 diesel. I think he's in over his head...We will see!!

M RASCOE&SONS
10-14-2010, 08:49 PM
if say my brother wanted to get into the biz and had 60 grand to spend to get started i would have suggested a used dump in the 10 to 15 grand range ,and then a used zturn like the toro dlawns just sold in the 5 grand range.i would have also pointed out a couple of used dual axle trailers for 2 grand and a set of new echo hand helds for 1 grand .for another 2 grand you got a used leaf sucker.so for 25 grand on the high side your good to go ,and you then have 35 grand in the bank for working capital to cover biz insurance taxes etc.

flatlander42
10-14-2010, 08:53 PM
^^^^ Now That is good advice!!!

jntaylor
10-14-2010, 09:11 PM
Also, since he purchased all the equipment new, he is even more upside down in the hole. Equipment and trucks are a depreciating asset, usually 20% the first year, which means his 60k setup is worth 48k at best (60,000 X 0.20), not to mention the 60k debt.

rain man
10-14-2010, 09:49 PM
Welcome to lawnsite Chad and best of luck.

My advice for what its worth is this. You must survive. Lots of competition but survival is the crucial thing at first. Learn that math is your friend. Try to make a profit (many omit this). Be legal and safe. Enjoy the ride no matter where it goes for you only go around once.

The LawnRanger
10-14-2010, 10:49 PM
Nice set up working for yourself best move anyone can make wish you best of luck

h2oskier
10-14-2010, 10:53 PM
Welcome to lawnsite Chad and best of luck.

My advice for what its worth is this. You must survive. Lots of competition but survival is the crucial thing at first. Learn that math is your friend. Try to make a profit (many omit this). Be legal and safe. Enjoy the ride no matter where it goes for you only go around once.

I second this, have fun chad.:waving:

The LawnRanger
10-14-2010, 11:05 PM
I come from 3 generation of Lawn care professionals and You have to spend money to make money if you never take a chance in life then you willnever know I started out the same way bought good equipment and ran with it was I scared to lose my @ss YES but I stayed positive and worked hard Last years gross was 280,000 on my original 20,000 dollar investment I made 5 years ago Dont regret it at all So young blood take your equipment and truck and go out and show them. Don't Hate Congratulate

Graveslawncare
10-14-2010, 11:19 PM
Looks like you know how to pick equipment (Although I would have gone with Chevy :rolleyes:), so that's a good quality to start with. I don't want to be the tenth echo in the forum, and I don't want to tear you down, but a quick word of caution: Be careful about spending more than you make.

You probably have more money in your equipment than I have in the equipment I have accumulated over 8 years of business. I don't know your whole situation, so I don't want to pass judgement, just a word of caution.

Also, buy more stuff used. A 36k truck you probably could have gotten for 20-25k used with 20k miles on it. That's a BIG savings with little sacrifice. Same goes for mowers. My hustler Super Z would cost around 11k new, but I bought one used with only 500 hrs on it for $4500. Again, that's big savings with not a whole lot of sacrifice. Read some Dave Ramsey, and listen to the wisdom of guys on this forum who have a lot of experience in the business.

I wish you luck buddy, and I sure hope we get to see you posting next spring saying you have 70 accounts and all your stuff is paid off and you are in the money. Like someone else on here said, keep those blades spinning and that plow pushing. Best of luck to you! :drinkup: :waving:

newjerseylandscaping
10-15-2010, 01:51 AM
Hey,
nice equipment, nice truck. dont let these guys get you down, truth is there is plenty of buisness out there and you may know something they dont. just a little word of advice i got recently. advertise. get your name known. this is what you need to grow. good luck.

M RASCOE&SONS
10-15-2010, 09:54 AM
chad my statements were not to get you down what so ever,i wish you the best of luck.your stuff looks awesome.the would of should ofs are behind you so just do good quality work and never give up.Dave Ramsey will be a big help.

chadslawncare
10-19-2010, 09:27 AM
Thanks for all of the "advise" and encouragement.
I also have fabricated a tool holder for the back of the truck. I bet some of you could use one of these maybe.

bobcat48
10-19-2010, 09:38 AM
Thats real nice.nice idea.

SNAPPER MAN
10-19-2010, 11:36 AM
That's legit! We just throw the stuff in the bed but that's defiantly not a bad idea.
Posted via Mobile Device

eatonpcat
10-19-2010, 12:27 PM
Like the tool rack. Did you fabricate that yourself???

93Chevy
10-19-2010, 01:01 PM
I like that bed tool holder. However, I have one question. You have a triple bagger on your Z, but you have a short-bed truck that's loaded with tools and tonneau cover. Do you dump on site? I can easily fill an 8 ft truck bed with grass clippings by the end of the day, especially in spring growth.

newjerseylandscaping
10-19-2010, 01:07 PM
Nice setup thats one way. do you have a upgraded list of your equipment? thanks

Graveslawncare
10-19-2010, 03:40 PM
That tool rack for the truck bed is ballin' outrageous! You got any pics of your work yet?

Trevor8
10-19-2010, 04:21 PM
Thanks for all of the "advise" and encouragement.
I also have fabricated a tool holder for the back of the truck. I bet some of you could use one of these maybe.

Very nice. How much did it cost you?

punt66
10-19-2010, 04:27 PM
Thanks for all of the "advise" and encouragement.
I also have fabricated a tool holder for the back of the truck. I bet some of you could use one of these maybe.

That will wear your tailgate out in a hurry.

jntaylor
10-19-2010, 06:02 PM
Why didn't you just get equipment racks for your trailer? With a short-bed, that will severely limit space for grass clippings, fall clean-ups, etc.

However, nice design and fab though.

South Florida Lawns
10-19-2010, 06:17 PM
You got some decent stuff.

blk90s13
10-19-2010, 07:00 PM
best of luck to you with your business, that tool rack looks great good job


where is some of your work pictures ?

chadslawncare
10-20-2010, 05:32 AM
Like the tool rack. Did you fabricate that yourself???

Yes I did fabricate this tool holder. I am a sheet metal fabricator by trade, I am doing this lawn care for the extra money, so I can pickup my own leaves at the homestead instead of paying someone else like I used to do and for the exercise. Our jobs as "Lawncare Specialist's" is in fact good exercise, it is like going to the gym but you get paid for it. How cool is that?

chadslawncare
10-20-2010, 05:46 AM
I like that bed tool holder. However, I have one question. You have a triple bagger on your Z, but you have a short-bed truck that's loaded with tools and tonneau cover. Do you dump on site? I can easily fill an 8 ft truck bed with grass clippings by the end of the day, especially in spring growth.
I do in fact dump on site; all of my leaf pickup customers have city pickup. I also have a local contractor that will vacuum leaves for a set price of 45.00 per load. I have not needed to contact him yet but that is my alternative if I need it. In the spring, I plan on mulching blades without the bagger. I am a part time "Lawn Care Specialist" so I can pick and choose my jobs based on my own preferences.

chadslawncare
10-20-2010, 05:56 AM
best of luck to you with your business, that tool rack looks great good job


where is some of your work pictures ?
I have been so busy here in NE Ohio doing leaf pickup that by the time I finish my jobs during the weekday, the sun is almost set and there is not quite enough light for a good picture. I am a photography buff also so I will be posting so work pictures soon. I will have to wait for a Sat. or a Sun. afternoon job in order for there to be enough light. I just started the season last weekend so maybe I will get a chance to get some pictures this weekend. I am always with a camera; I keep one in my glove box and in my briefcase.
until then, Chad

jpaul4
10-20-2010, 01:14 PM
Chad, I am about an hour east of you in Canfield OH. I am trying to start a lawncare business also. I am out of work engineer. I have a nice commercial mower, it's a Kubota Diesel 60" Pro Deck. I also have a little wonder 8 hp blower and Shindaiwa trimmer. I have cut my own property for many years. Work is bad in my field now and I want to start a lawncare business. How do you do pricing ? It there a hourly rate for this part of ohio ? Any help or suggestions will be most appreciated. John

chadslawncare
10-21-2010, 07:10 AM
Chad, I am about an hour east of you in Canfield OH. I am trying to start a lawncare business also. I am out of work engineer. I have a nice commercial mower, it's a Kubota Diesel 60" Pro Deck. I also have a little wonder 8 hp blower and Shindaiwa trimmer. I have cut my own property for many years. Work is bad in my field now and I want to start a lawncare business. How do you do pricing ? It there a hourly rate for this part of ohio ? Any help or suggestions will be most appreciated. John

John, I am quite sure that you are not asking the right person for this question yet. I just started and estimated my jobs pretty low in order to gain some income in order to pay for the equipment. A good start for me would be 60.00/hr. There is a section here at LawnSite.com that pertains to "Commercial & Residential Lawn Mowing ". My suggestion would be to post a thread in that section and title it "NE Ohio rate of pay", post the question and see what kind of replies you get. There are quite a few members here from this area that you will probably here from. I have heard from 4 or 5 people from the Akron-Canton area here on this thread. Let me know when you post the thread so that I can chime in on it. Thanks, Chad

jpaul4
10-21-2010, 12:10 PM
Chad, I posted a thread as you suggested. Hope I can get some good pointers.
John

Houston Wyatt
12-11-2010, 01:21 AM
None of you had even bothered to ask him whether he financed anything, how much money he had saved up, if he had a full time job that he was able to fall on, or even if he was planning on buying the truck with or without starting a lawn company(like myself).

edit: sorry i just noticed this was couple months old. i gotta start remembering to check the date when im searching lol.

newjerseylandscaping
12-11-2010, 01:47 AM
What does it matter if he financed anythinng? Hes got respectable tast and hes doing his best, thats all that counts. However, i like this setup alot i meant to ask and dont know if i did, were did you get the handhelds? ive seen them at HD but they dont look as nice. thanks,
NJ

newjerseylandscaping
12-11-2010, 01:50 AM
Also how does that trailer work for you? thanks

DollarSign
12-11-2010, 10:16 AM
I love that cage you built for the handhelds, I'll be building one to use for the summer, but not during clean ups. Except I wont be putting a top on it because I don't use a tonneau cover so no need to cover them.

Chilehead
12-12-2010, 01:31 PM
From someone who moved down here from Akron, best wishes. Some quick tips: mow weekly; if you plan on applying chemicals--get licensed; and the first few years it's advantageous to take on as much work as you can handle. You'll do fine. By the way, that's a sweet tool holder.

MisterBreeze
12-15-2010, 08:22 PM
Best of luck to you. You made great choices on all your equipment. I respect you a lot for starting with quality equipment instead of working with junk like a scrub. Best of luck to you!
Posted via Mobile Device

A must disagree with this statement. Some guys don't have the money or accounts to start off with such nice equipment. My advise for beginners is to buy some used equipment and see if they like the business and then move up to bigger and better things. SCRUBS is a poor choice of words

bradseabridge
12-15-2010, 08:52 PM
You're new aren't you?

MisterBreeze
12-15-2010, 09:06 PM
You're new aren't you?

What does new have to do with good advice?

M & L
12-15-2010, 09:11 PM
Good show man I really like that bed rack you made....

Screw bagging I have 48 resi and three commercial and i bag 2!!! if a a customer wants bag they pay or i walk usually i dont even bother and just walk..so many people have been trained to bag thier clippings..

If your gona go GO!!

And I think only 2 have even bothered to say things like we dont know his finacial or if you had capitol to start

GO MAN GO!!!

newjerseylandscaping
12-15-2010, 09:19 PM
Howed you do your first year?

SNAPPER MAN
12-15-2010, 09:29 PM
A must disagree with this statement. Some guys don't have the money or accounts to start off with such nice equipment. My advise for beginners is to buy some used equipment and see if they like the business and then move up to bigger and better things. SCRUBS is a poor choice of words

That is the biggest problem with this business. People get go get cheap equipment and lowball prices because they do not know how to run a business. I can probably count on my two hands the number of legit businesses on here who are run by businessmen and are not just lawn boys. The reason we all come on here bitching every year is because this industry has very few barriers of entry compared to most others.
Posted via Mobile Device

dtriv89
12-15-2010, 09:46 PM
I'll never understand why anyone whos business plan is different than yours is wrong. There's more than one way to skin a cat, same goes for starting a business. Just because someone does something differently doesn't mean they're wrong

. I can probably count on my two hands the number of legit businesses on here who are run by businessmen and are not just lawn boys. Posted via Mobile Device

agree 100%

M & L
12-15-2010, 09:53 PM
Jersey who u asking?

Its should be positive no matter how you look at it or else dont do it.

there are two side to every story, and i would take it all in and use what you need and file the rest..There is some good info in everything, you just have to look with your good eyes

newjerseylandscaping
12-15-2010, 10:06 PM
I was asking chadslawncare. And i never ask questions that are meant as a posotive thing, i dont like the nay sayers on this forum, thats not what we all post for here on lawnsite.

M & L
12-15-2010, 10:16 PM
was not sure if you were asking me or him. not sayin you nay say.

newjerseylandscaping
12-15-2010, 10:39 PM
just making shur i know the way it was worded was kind of blunt. M&L i take it its your 1st year?

MisterBreeze
12-16-2010, 12:03 PM
That is the biggest problem with this business. People get go get cheap equipment and lowball prices because they do not know how to run a business. I can probably count on my two hands the number of legit businesses on here who are run by businessmen and are not just lawn boys. The reason we all come on here bitching every year is because this industry has very few barriers of entry compared to most others.
Posted via Mobile Device

I'm not sure I understand your position. Are you upset because of lowballers or that guys can buy equipment cheap. What I was trying to say is don't start a business by going into too much debt. Buying new is fine but I don't think it's necessary to purchase top of the line equipment. And I don't like to see guys driving around in a "Sanford & Son" pick-up but you can't assume they are "scrubs" if they do. You don't know anyones situation.
And also, lawn equipment is not cheap, even if it's used. It's still cost a few bucks for a reliable mower and needed equipment.

chadslawncare
12-17-2010, 07:17 PM
None of you had even bothered to ask him whether he financed anything, how much money he had saved up, if he had a full time job that he was able to fall on, or even if he was planning on buying the truck with or without starting a lawn company(like myself).



I think these are in fact some good questions. I do have a full-time job and yes, I would have the need for some kind of vehicle. I traded in a 2007 Lincoln MKX for this 4x4 Ford. I figured I could put the truck to some better use instead of the Lincoln MKX. It was a nice ride but I could not plow snow and I really didn't want to pull a trailer with a Lincoln. Anyways, I upgraded from a 42 " Toro so that I could do my own leaf pickup in the fall. This saves me 350.00 a year alone (about 2 mower payments). I figured that starting a lawn care business would help me with tax benifits also. I was going to have to purchase a trailer anyways for a couple of off road toy's so the trailer, the mower and a good part of my truck will be a good tax benifit for the next 5 years. I am glad that I purchased the new equipment and if I did not think I could make enough money to pay for it all, I probably would still be driving a Lincoln MKX and paying someone else to do my fall leaf pick up. But I am not, I am mowing, plowing and payuppayuppayuppayup. Thanks for asking the questions. Nobody seemed to ask earlier so I just didn't feel a need to reply to many of the above rants. Chad

newjerseylandscaping
12-17-2010, 08:07 PM
hows that 150 handle the plow? also is it the 5.7 or the smaller 8?

chadslawncare
12-18-2010, 06:13 AM
hows that 150 handle the plow? also is it the 5.7 or the smaller 8?

The 150 does ok with pushing snow. It has the smaller engine and the plow is the smaller lighter plow. I primarily limit my customers to smaller commercial lots and residential driveways. Loosing sleep is a litle more difficult to handle compared to when I was younger. We just had 14-20 inches of snow a few days ago here in NE Ohio and the Ford F150 and the Boss 7.5 ft Sport Duty held up better than I did. After 3 days of snow plowing, about 6 hrs total sleep in 3 days, the truck was still able but I was not. Had to get some sleep.

chadslawncare
12-18-2010, 06:31 AM
Howed you do your first year?

I am just now getting around to sifting through this thread for replies. I have been bussier than I expected to be with fall leaf cleanups. I did this while working a full time job and probably could have taken on more customers but decided that I did not want to work that much. I just bought the mower in the end of August this year, I did not have any mowing customers and went after my first fall cleanup customers the beginning of September. In just the 6-7 weeks of fall cleanups, I was able to make enough money to pay for the mower for 12 months. I consider my first fall cleanup a success. Chad

gasracer
12-18-2010, 10:36 AM
Chad, Maybe I read it wrong but you were writing off the truck for business use but still use it for personal use? Once you put commercial tags and insurance on it and get it lettered it is no longer a personal truck. If you still use it for personal use you can only write off mileage. I would talk to a CPA about it to make sure.

chadslawncare
12-20-2010, 04:38 AM
Chad, Maybe I read it wrong but you were writing off the truck for business use but still use it for personal use? Once you put commercial tags and insurance on it and get it lettered it is no longer a personal truck. If you still use it for personal use you can only write off mileage. I would talk to a CPA about it to make sure.

You are very correct in this statement. I am only able to use the mileage for tax purposes. I didn't expect to write off the cost of the truck. I will be pleased with only being able to write off the mower, trailer, hand held equipment and snow plow for the time being. Hopefully, I can purchase a F250 in a couple of years then I will use one of the trucks as a complete write off. Not to mention the convenience of being able to leave one of the trucks attached to the trailer. For now, I am having to drop the trailer when I have a few days off of work and hook again when I need to work. Chad

chadslawncare
10-30-2011, 09:01 AM
Howed you do your first year?

Well it has been 1 year and I did as well as expected. Last fall cleanup was a success. Here in Northern Ohio I paid for the plow the first year (alotta snow) yeehaa and many long nights too. This spring my father was diagnosed with cancer so I only took on 3 customers (1 work day per week) so that I could spend more time with him. Those 3 customers were enough to pay the mower and trailer payments so I did not make much "extra money". Since then my fathers cancer is in remission and I have started my secind year of fall cleanups. I am staying busier than I want to be but looks as though I'll do OK this season as well. I am definitely looking forward to the finish of fall cleanups and for the SNOW to come. With the snow plow paid for, I will be looking towards this winter to help pay off the mower and trailer. I will still have 3 more years of tax write-off for the mower, trailer and handheld's after this years taxes. Then next spring if my father is still doing ok, I will take on 6 mow customers only. That will be about 2 days work per week. That's enough for me, I am still working a full-time job as a sheet metal designer/machine programmer and I am loving that job.
Chad

DLONGLANDSCAPING
10-30-2011, 11:05 AM
Well it has been 1 year and I did as well as expected. Last fall cleanup was a success. Here in Northern Ohio I paid for the plow the first year (alotta snow) yeehaa and many long nights too. This spring my father was diagnosed with cancer so I only took on 3 customers (1 work day per week) so that I could spend more time with him. Those 3 customers were enough to pay the mower and trailer payments so I did not make much "extra money". Since then my fathers cancer is in remission and I have started my secind year of fall cleanups. I am staying busier than I want to be but looks as though I'll do OK this season as well. I am definitely looking forward to the finish of fall cleanups and for the SNOW to come. With the snow plow paid for, I will be looking towards this winter to help pay off the mower and trailer. I will still have 3 more years of tax write-off for the mower, trailer and handheld's after this years taxes. Then next spring if my father is still doing ok, I will take on 6 mow customers only. That will be about 2 days work per week. That's enough for me, I am still working a full-time job as a sheet metal designer/machine programmer and I am loving that job.
Chad

Good for you man! There isn't time to spend with your parents once you start working and its great that you sacrificed your business venture for you dads time. Lawn care will always be there but the ones you love may not! Everything looks great and forget all the haters on here. Obviously you are doing this more as a hobby/little extra money and to save yourself personal money(fall clean ups and tax write offs) while pretty much working one day a week to pay for awesome machines to play around with. Your metal fab work is second to none. Looks absolutely amazing! Good luck to you in your future endeavors.

Jason

Greyst1
10-31-2011, 12:56 AM
Hello Chad,

I'm about 15 minutes south of you but i own some properties up your way. Sorry to hear the news about your dad, but good to hear the C is in remission. Anyhow, i remember reading your thread last year. Work in our area is really saturated, i was wondering how you go about advertising? Also, did you buy your plow at Terry's? I read somewhere because of electronic steering on the new 150's that a plow was not possible, is your truck an 2010, or 2011.

Cleanups this year suck! Wet, cold, and volume is just now started to accumulate.

chadslawncare
10-31-2011, 04:46 PM
Good for you man! There isn't time to spend with your parents once you start working and its great that you sacrificed your business venture for you dads time. Lawn care will always be there but the ones you love may not! Everything looks great and forget all the haters on here. Obviously you are doing this more as a hobby/little extra money and to save yourself personal money(fall clean ups and tax write offs) while pretty much working one day a week to pay for awesome machines to play around with. Your metal fab work is second to none. Looks absolutely amazing! Good luck to you in your future endeavors.

Jason

Thanks for the word of encouragement Jason and the comment about the fab work. Did you check out my custom leaf plow yet? That was my latest work I have done. The link is at the bottom of my signature. Have a great day and thanks again. To may Nay-Sayers sometimes around here sometimes.

chadslawncare
10-31-2011, 05:09 PM
Hello Chad,

I'm about 15 minutes south of you but i own some properties up your way. Sorry to hear the news about your dad, but good to hear the C is in remission. Anyhow, i remember reading your thread last year. Work in our area is really saturated, i was wondering how you go about advertising? Also, did you buy your plow at Terry's? I read somewhere because of electronic steering on the new 150's that a plow was not possible, is your truck an 2010, or 2011.

Cleanups this year suck! Wet, cold, and volume is just now started to accumulate.

Advertising in the Suburbanite (south of Akron) has not been very good. I have better luck with the Record Courier but that is Tallmadge north up to Aurora and I believe it even goes further north depending on what zoans you choose. They have a south, central and north zoan I believe.
My F150 is a 2010 and I purchased the plow at JTI in Oakwood Village. They were very good at the install, very experienced technicians, and they handled the "mishaps" that occurred with the installation well also. The lights would go out sometimes and would not come on for 5-10 minutes initially. They added a relay of some sort and that problem never came back. Then there was the loss of the plow all together occasionally. That was a bad ground so they re-run the ground completely to the other side of the engine well to a much better location than the installer choose the first time. That problem was corrected also. I would have gone to Terry's but JTI is closer to my place of employment and I figured if I need work done I'd be leaving from were I work more often than I would be leaving from home.
And yea, this was a bad year for mowing, too wet. What a year to start a LCO. The good thing is that with all the rain we had here the grass never did stop growing and we just kept mowing.
Chad

mikeylikesit5805
10-31-2011, 08:41 PM
Hey Chad! looks like you have a great setup going, you are alot like me, I am mowing about 19 accounts on the side. I mow in Akron/Kent/Stow Ohio.

Maybe we can meet one day for lunch or something.

How much would you charge me to make a leaf plow?

chadslawncare
10-31-2011, 09:23 PM
Hello Mike, 19 accounts on the side? How in the world were you able to keep up with that many properties and work a full time job? Thats not "on the side" thats crazy. This has been the wettest year EVER here in norther Ohio. My hats off to you sir. well done. About the leaf plow, I am not sure yet, I have not added up all of the shop time that it took for my work place to laser-cut, form and weld the plow. There is about 500.00 worth of material plus the shop hours to fabricate it. I purchased the material but my boss pushed it through the shop on his dime. I have been waiting to add up that time and cost. When I get the correct figures sometime soon and let you know the total cost then. Lunch sound great but not untill around Dec. 1 when the fall cleanup comes to an end. I ussually eat breakfast and skip lunch during the fall when I am on the mower.
Chad

chadslawncare
11-01-2011, 10:36 AM
How much would you charge me to make a leaf plow?

Go to the leaf plow post for the pricing on it.

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=363300

Chad