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kennc38
10-31-2010, 08:53 PM
Was anyone able to demo the new Lawn Solutions dual hyrdo walk behind aerator? If so, what are your feelings? Or did anyone get any video of the plug pattern/plug quality? Looking at purchasing one next year and would appreciate any feedback. Thanks.

JayD
10-31-2010, 10:02 PM
I would love to have one but not at that price, man I can buy a Z for that kind of $$$.

kennc38
10-31-2010, 10:10 PM
They are a bit pricey, but one could make a lot of money with one and not feel like they've been wrestling with a wild bull all day. :)

JayD
10-31-2010, 10:13 PM
They are a bit pricey, but one could make a lot of money with one and not feel like they've been wrestling with a wild bull all day. :)

Yeah, I agree, but $8,500????you better have a lot of work lined up for that kind of money..Like I said, I would love to have one....

kennc38
10-31-2010, 10:14 PM
I believe $8500 is for the rider. The walk behind is around $4k I believe.

GravelyGuy
10-31-2010, 10:51 PM
The dual hydro walk behind is like $4300. I saw it at GIE with a sulky and it looked pretty easy to run. You couldn't really see the plugs because it just running through the dirt.

I did run the single hydro walkbehind and it was much easier to run than my Ryan aerator I have now. It is like $3250.

Lbilawncare
11-01-2010, 12:31 AM
I tried one out and was very impressed. I also tried the smaller hydro machine and it was nice too, just not as fast. I did not try out the riding machine, I did watch a few others run it and determined it wasn't for me.

topsites
11-01-2010, 02:34 AM
Here's the thing...

How much wild bull would you be willing to wrestle if I gave you $7,500 cash?
That's what I thought.

Because used wild bulls sell for a thousand, how much I paid for my chain-and-belt solid axle Wb aerator 9 years ago.
And it works me, but apparently even 9 years later I get paid to wrestle, per lawn.

kennc38
11-01-2010, 09:04 AM
How much wild bull would you be willing to wrestle if I gave you $7,500 cash?
That's what I thought.

Because used wild bulls sell for a thousand, how much I paid for my chain-and-belt solid axle Wb aerator 9 years ago.
And it works me, but apparently even 9 years later I get paid to wrestle, per lawn.

If that's your business plan, then that's great and more power to you. However, I'm not as young as I used to be so I prefer to work smarter rather than harder. I could pay for the walk behind ($4300, not $7500) in a short amount of time. I would then be able to make even more money since I can do more yards because I'm not worn out at the end of the day.

dtc0207
11-01-2010, 09:42 AM
Here's the thing...

How much wild bull would you be willing to wrestle if I gave you $7,500 cash?
That's what I thought.

Because used wild bulls sell for a thousand, how much I paid for my chain-and-belt solid axle Wb aerator 9 years ago.
And it works me, but apparently even 9 years later I get paid to wrestle, per lawn.

how much wild bull would you be willing to wrestle if I gave you $8800 cash?
because you can get a 200 push mower instead of a 9000 ztr

Thats what I thought you bought the ztr to be quicker and not as worn out from pushing all those yards

battle
11-01-2010, 02:45 PM
I went to GIE to test out hydro and ride on aerators. I wanted to demo source1 plugr,lawn solutions,lt rich and turfco. The ride ons at 7,000+ cannot be justified at this point to only be used maybe 6 weeks a year. I had read alot about the lawn solution dual hydro and it is a great machine. Plugr pulls nice plugs but seems abit aggressive on turf. Then i come across the new Turfco hydro wb that has just been introduced. In my opinion this is the smoothest machine out there. It feels just like running a small walk behind mower. A question for those who have the Lawn Solution machine, do you ever have trouble with the chains or any other components under the deck?. The Turfco unit, if you look has very little underneath and the chains are on the outside and very easy to get to without lifting or raising up. If the Turfco unit pulls nice plugs(as someone mentioned the dirt was messed up and it was hard to tell) to me this is the unit i will buy. The one drawback to the Turfco is they will not be offering a sulky to stand on like the LS machine. If i am right the Turfco is about $1000.00 less also.

I am sure i will need a ride on at some point and i did demo those also so i will comment. By far the coolest,easiest and most practical for any larger size property is the Lawn Solution hands down. But at $8500.00 you will need to do tons of aerating to justify that cost for a machine that only does 1 thing. The LT Rich has its place by being capable of doing a few other tasks other than aeration. The LT Rich machine is a beast probably not capable of doing smaller areas like i believe the LS machine would. LT Rich builds top quality stuff second to none. One product that did catch my interest was the Z-Rator. Yes, i know there are those on here that have called it junk and not worthy of a look but i saw it used it and think this thing works. Some don't like the gap between the two sets of tines but even if you have to go over the area 2 -3 times it's better than walking on large properties. Another plus is its an attachment that goes on your ZTR so you dont have a dedicated machine. The only thing that might keep me from buying could be the price. I believe it's around $2000.00 and i think it should be somewhere in the $1200.00-$1300.00 range. I am sure the Z-Rator will pull better plugs than all the awful tow behinds that you can never get enough weight on.

coolluv
11-01-2010, 03:07 PM
I went to GIE to test out hydro and ride on aerators. I wanted to demo source1 plugr,lawn solutions,lt rich and turfco. The ride ons at 7,000+ cannot be justified at this point to only be used maybe 6 weeks a year. I had read alot about the lawn solution dual hydro and it is a great machine. Plugr pulls nice plugs but seems abit aggressive on turf. Then i come across the new Turfco hydro wb that has just been introduced. In my opinion this is the smoothest machine out there. It feels just like running a small walk behind mower. A question for those who have the Lawn Solution machine, do you ever have trouble with the chains or any other components under the deck?. The Turfco unit, if you look has very little underneath and the chains are on the outside and very easy to get to without lifting or raising up. If the Turfco unit pulls nice plugs(as someone mentioned the dirt was messed up and it was hard to tell) to me this is the unit i will buy. The one drawback to the Turfco is they will not be offering a sulky to stand on like the LS machine. If i am right the Turfco is about $1000.00 less also.

I am sure i will need a ride on at some point and i did demo those also so i will comment. By far the coolest,easiest and most practical for any larger size property is the Lawn Solution hands down. But at $8500.00 you will need to do tons of aerating to justify that cost for a machine that only does 1 thing. The LT Rich has its place by being capable of doing a few other tasks other than aeration. The LT Rich machine is a beast probably not capable of doing smaller areas like i believe the LS machine would. LT Rich builds top quality stuff second to none. One product that did catch my interest was the Z-Rator. Yes, i know there are those on here that have called it junk and not worthy of a look but i saw it used it and think this thing works. Some don't like the gap between the two sets of tines but even if you have to go over the area 2 -3 times it's better than walking on large properties. Another plus is its an attachment that goes on your ZTR so you dont have a dedicated machine. The only thing that might keep me from buying could be the price. I believe it's around $2000.00 and i think it should be somewhere in the $1200.00-$1300.00 range. I am sure the Z-Rator will pull better plugs than all the awful tow behinds that you can never get enough weight on.

Thanks for the review. Is the Turfco front wheel drive? Some others that purchased the older lawn solutions hydro said that it did not do well in certain situations because it was front wheel drive. The Z Rator is waaay too expensive for what it is. $1000 would be high in my opinion. $2000 Noooooo waaaaaay.

I have a Turfco spit drive and it is a good machine and pulls nice plugs, but just like the rest it will wear you out. I would like to get a hydro and not break the bank. Would love to have the ride on but can't justify the $8500 price tag. A few have said the Z Rator seemed to work well but for the price you might as well get the hydro walk behind, and with most around here in my neck of the woods giving away aeration's, I may just discontinue offering the service altogether. We will see in the spring how many $40 any size lawn signs there are out there.:laugh::laugh::laugh:


Dave...

battle
11-01-2010, 03:31 PM
Yes, i believe the Turfco is front wheel drive and i would like to read of the issues that causes before i purchase. I also considered the split drum with sulky because i have 3 acres of my own that i want to aerate and the pull behinds i have used ( 3 different ones) just ain't gettin' the job done. And yes, your right the split drums are still rough to use. With the new hydro's everyone will look forward to aeration but not at $40.00.Let them have it.

aeration
11-01-2010, 07:23 PM
I purchased a Lawn Solutions Ride-On Aerator for this Fall aeration season. Although I paid for it up front, I've already made my money back just this Fall. Can't wait till Spring and next Fall and the year after and the year after and the year after and the year after. Don't be scared by the price. Remember, in most markets, the price for an aeration is about 3x the mowing price. I own the single hydro and the ride-on. And will probably purchase the dual hydro in the future.

GravelyGuy
11-01-2010, 07:51 PM
It seems all the chains could be the down fall of the Lawn Solutions machines. The chains look heavy duty, but they look like they are going to get packed with mud.

battle
11-01-2010, 08:06 PM
The chains look heavy duty, but they look like they are going to get packed with mud.[/QUOTE]

That was a concern of mine after looking at the underside of the LS at GIE. I know on my bluebird drum aerator the chain picks up all kinds of debris and will occasionally pop the chain off. Turfco machine only has tine assembly and gearbox housing underneath and they are completely separate as well. There is only 2 drive chains one on either side with a cover over each. I dont believe though that i have read any issues with the LS.

aeration
11-01-2010, 09:08 PM
I've aerated over 100 lawns this Fall. No problem with mud/chains.

LawnSolutionsCP
11-02-2010, 11:05 AM
New Aerators at the EXPO from Lawn Solutions. To clear up some confusion on differences and pricing between models.


21" Single Hydro ($3,250)
*400 lbs down pressure over the tines
*Adjustable plug depth (2-4")
*0-4 mph forward; 0-2 MPH Reverse
*Tightest turning in the industry without lifting tines.
*Engines: Kohler, Honda, Briggs

24" Dual Hydro ($4,250)
*550 lbs down pressure over the tines
*Adjustable plug depth (2-4")
*0-5.5 MPH forard; 0-2 MPH Reverse
*Operates just like a Commercial Mower
*Great for walking or used with a Sulky
*2.5 gal Fuel Capacity
*13 HP Briggs Eng.

Ride-on Aerator ($8,500)
*1200 lbs down pressure over the tines
*Adjustable plug depth from 0-5" on the fly while aerating
*Automatic raise and lower the tines in 1/2 second when zero turning
*0-7.5 mph aerating speed (2 Acre per hour capacity)
*Easily aerate slopes up to 30 degrees up, down, or across.
*Gentle enough for golf greens and powerful enough to pull 5" cores in clay.
*Mutiple attachements coming for Spring 2011.

Hope this clears up any questions about the differences between models.

David

LawnSolutionsCP
11-02-2010, 11:09 AM
Any comments on our "Super Modified" riding aerator at the EXPO. Couple of our engineering co-ops built it the night before. They asked and I told thems sure once everything is done for the show. I didn't even know they were bringin it until the morning of the show.

The night before, starting at 10:00 PM, they went back to the shop and built the custom pipes and header..... I was impressed how well it sounded. They are aslo the ones who build the Mini Baja Racer that we had in our outdoor booth last year.

kennc38
11-02-2010, 03:06 PM
Thanks for the informatin David. Couple of questions:

1. Are those prices from the factory direct? If so, what are the approximate shipping costs?
2. Do you have any video of the actual plugs and plug pattern for the dual hyrdo?
3. When will the dual hydros be available for purchase since you only did a limited production run this fall?

Thanks.

JD2320
11-02-2010, 04:27 PM
Lawn Solutions,

How do you come up with your down pressure numbers. I'm no engineer but how do you get 400lbs of DP on a machine that doesn't weigh 400lbs? Wouldn't you need the machine itself to have a balanced weight of more than the down pressure a cylinder can create?

In theory, if the machine weighed less than the DP available, and the soil was dry, wouldnt it lift the machine upwards?

a plus bob
11-02-2010, 04:30 PM
Any comments on our "Super Modified" riding aerator at the EXPO. Couple of our engineering co-ops built it the night before. They asked and I told thems sure once everything is done for the show. I didn't even know they were bringin it until the morning of the show.

The night before, starting at 10:00 PM, they went back to the shop and built the custom pipes and header..... I was impressed how well it sounded. They are aslo the ones who build the Mini Baja Racer that we had in our outdoor booth last year.

I did hear several people say"Thats to loud to put on a residential lawn".They thought all of your aerators would sound like that.Maybe you should have done a custom paint job so every body would know it was a Custom project.I did think it was cool.

br549oicu8
11-02-2010, 05:01 PM
Great to meet you, A plus!!!

a plus bob
11-02-2010, 05:16 PM
Great to meet you, A plus!!!

Same here. My dad enjoyed talking to you also.He wants me to show him your pictures again of your shop and work.Sorry about trying to sell you a T3000 :laugh:

Barefoot James
11-02-2010, 08:37 PM
Show the videos! This thing was a beast! Great for shows.Any comments on our "Super Modified" riding aerator at the EXPO. Couple of our engineering co-ops built it the night before. They asked and I told thems sure once everything is done for the show. I didn't even know they were bringin it until the morning of the show.

The night before, starting at 10:00 PM, they went back to the shop and built the custom pipes and header..... I was impressed how well it sounded. They are aslo the ones who build the Mini Baja Racer that we had in our outdoor booth last year.

kennc38
11-02-2010, 08:50 PM
Show the videos! This thing was a beast! Great for shows.

Exactly! Everyone's talking about how great this thing is, but I've yet to see any quality videos. Maybe their marketing team needs a redesign too? lol

Barefoot James
11-02-2010, 09:14 PM
There are videos of the 21, 24 and ride on on this site do a search - I'm talking about hotdog rideing on just the tines popping wheelies and the straight pipes he had which made it sound like a Harley. LS rocks and provides tons of info and videos to this site - lots on utube to do a simple search and you will find what you need. How many plugs you want these unit will deliver even more!

americanlawn
11-02-2010, 09:44 PM
We don't need no videos to know what the LS ride-on aerator can do. David was kind enough to visit us on several occasions and allow us to demo it. It is awesome! Actually one of a kind. Nobody else offers such a unit. We are still considering the LS ride-on in the future.

Reasons:

1) you can run a one-man aeration crew instead of two (except for small gates/backyards)

2) the plug depth is awesome (adjustable for hard ground like we currently have)

3) the quality/durability of the machine appears to be high quality (especially regarding the new pumps & high quality chains)

Not sure about the LS walk-behind unit yet, cuz we're currently only pulling 1 - 1 1/2 inch plugs with all four weights in place. My guys take the TURFCO walk-behinds out everyday and leave the LS walk-behind aerator in the shop. Not sure what's going on there, but I let my guys pick & choose. Go figure. Heck -- we're still using a twenty-year-old Ryan walk-behind......seems they were better built compared to what Ryan offers nowadays.

Our 2 cents

GravelyGuy
11-02-2010, 09:48 PM
The single hydro at GIE was different than the one listed on the Lawn Sol. website.

kennc38
11-02-2010, 11:29 PM
There are videos of the 21, 24 and ride on on this site do a search - I'm talking about hotdog rideing on just the tines popping wheelies and the straight pipes he had which made it sound like a Harley. LS rocks and provides tons of info and videos to this site - lots on utube to do a simple search and you will find what you need. How many plugs you want these unit will deliver even more!

Thanks Barefoot, but there are no videos of the 24 dual hydro on their website and the video of the 21 doesn't show the quality of the plugs it pulls. The only video I've seen of the 24 dual hyrdo is the one LS did with a cell phone...not very good quality and again, doesn't show the plug quality.

I know that the 24 dual hyrdo is new, but I would think that somebody would at least have some video or pics of what it can do. Thanks again everyone.

kennc38
11-02-2010, 11:31 PM
Not sure about the LS walk-behind unit yet, cuz we're currently only pulling 1 - 1 1/2 inch plugs with all four weights in place. My guys take the TURFCO walk-behinds out everyday and leave the LS walk-behind aerator in the shop. Not sure what's going on there, but I let my guys pick & choose. Go figure. Heck -- we're still using a twenty-year-old Ryan walk-behind......seems they were better built compared to what Ryan offers nowadays.

Our 2 cents

Thanks AmericanLawn. You seem to be one of very few people that don't like the quality of the LS walk behind plugs. Have asked for any feedback from LS as to why this might be happening? Thanks.

fatboynormmie
11-03-2010, 10:16 AM
We don't need no videos to know what the LS ride-on aerator can do. David was kind enough to visit us on several occasions and allow us to demo it. It is awesome! Actually one of a kind. Nobody else offers such a unit. We are still considering the LS ride-on in the future.

Reasons:

1) you can run a one-man aeration crew instead of two (except for small gates/backyards)

2) the plug depth is awesome (adjustable for hard ground like we currently have)

3) the quality/durability of the machine appears to be high quality (especially regarding the new pumps & high quality chains)

Not sure about the LS walk-behind unit yet, cuz we're currently only pulling 1 - 1 1/2 inch plugs with all four weights in place. My guys take the TURFCO walk-behinds out everyday and leave the LS walk-behind aerator in the shop. Not sure what's going on there, but I let my guys pick & choose. Go figure. Heck -- we're still using a twenty-year-old Ryan walk-behind......seems they were better built compared to what Ryan offers nowadays.

Our 2 cents
The TA21 aerator is new to me and was pulling plugs that were 1-1 1/2" as well. Adjusted the stops all the way up which should have allowed the tines to go deeper but while using it, the wheel brackets rarely went up to the stops anymore .It was like it couldn't get more penetration.I tried adding more weights over the tine but didn't change core depth.I will say the depth of the holes is deeper then the cores show, but some cust. want to see plugs.
BTW I fired up the old classen and on the same ground ripped out 3"plugs just to make sure it was the unit and not the ground.Wonder if David has any suggestions?I will investigate more in a couple of days when I get freed up.

CHARLES CUE
11-03-2010, 09:42 PM
Exactly! Everyone's talking about how great this thing is, but I've yet to see any quality videos. Maybe their marketing team needs a redesign too? lol

Don't know how to move a file. Go to page 3 on this form there is a video where David introduced the dual hydro.

I demoed it at GIE show nice mech. The hydro controls are a bit touchy compared to the ride on aerator. The handles are to short for me to run the sulky and i am only 5-9.David said they were going to make the handles a little longer. But after running it several times i like it better than front wheel drive ones.

Charles Cue

humble1
11-04-2010, 10:02 PM
It seems all the chains could be the down fall of the Lawn Solutions machines. The chains look heavy duty, but they look like they are going to get packed with mud.

what happens if you kick up a large stick, the belt pops off under my z spray once in a while if a stick goes between the belt and pulley.

kennc38
11-09-2010, 05:55 PM
Lawn Solutions,

How do you come up with your down pressure numbers. I'm no engineer but how do you get 400lbs of DP on a machine that doesn't weigh 400lbs? Wouldn't you need the machine itself to have a balanced weight of more than the down pressure a cylinder can create?

In theory, if the machine weighed less than the DP available, and the soil was dry, wouldnt it lift the machine upwards?

Since you never got an answer, maybe they're re-calculating? I agree, I don't see how a machine can exert more downward pressure than the weight of the machine itself, unless they're referring to a dynamic force as opposed to a static one. Also, even if the machine did weight 400 lbs, all of that force will not be on the tines alone as some of it will be distributed over the tires as well.

JD2320
11-09-2010, 10:39 PM
Since you never got an answer, maybe they're re-calculating? I agree, I don't see how a machine can exert more downward pressure than the weight of the machine itself, unless they're referring to a dynamic force as opposed to a static one. Also, even if the machine did weight 400 lbs, all of that force will not be on the tines alone as some of it will be distributed over the tires as well.

Eh, they are probably referring to the power or capability rating of the hydraulic cylinder itself. It was really kind of an unfair trick question anyhow. :) But simply claiming 400lbs of down force is a tad misleading.

Obviously it would matter what you are trying to aerate too. Dry clay, moist sand or 6 inches of feathers. I.E The resistance component.

LawnSolutionsCP
11-12-2010, 07:31 AM
I have been out traveling around the U.S. and out of the coutry following up on leads from the EXPO.

With the additional weight kit it adds another 70 lbs over the tines. The unit comes in around ~340 lbs if I remember with just 1 weight. With the weights the unit is over the 400 lbs and when you watch it run all the weight is over the tines since you can see the front tire barely touch the ground while aerating.

HISnHERS
11-25-2010, 01:33 PM
I have been out traveling around the U.S. and out of the coutry following up on leads from the EXPO.

With the additional weight kit it adds another 70 lbs over the tines. The unit comes in around ~340 lbs if I remember with just 1 weight. With the weights the unit is over the 400 lbs and when you watch it run all the weight is over the tines since you can see the front tire barely touch the ground while aerating.
As David points out, I have the 21' single hydro and when aerating the front end is typically off the ground so all the weight is carried by the tines.

kevin16856
11-25-2010, 06:35 PM
David, what attachments are you planning for the spring on the rider? i am ready to pull the trigger on a LT Rich Z Aerator, seeder, etc

LawnSolutionsCP
11-27-2010, 10:29 PM
David, what attachments are you planning for the spring on the rider? i am ready to pull the trigger on a LT Rich Z Aerator, seeder, etc

A few....will have to wait until the 1st of the year.

kevin16856
11-28-2010, 09:23 AM
Z plug for me.

Barefoot James
11-28-2010, 03:11 PM
If you want seed attachemnts or what ever kind of attachment imagineable go to JRCO and attach it to the front of the LS. I would think the #1 primary reason you want to attach something to an riding aerator is to do aerating so the attachment would be secondary - I have used both machines and the ease of use, quality of plug, foot print on trailer and technology involved the LS is far better. No if you want to spray or spread chemicals for sure get the Z Spray but the LS has it BIG TIME over the Z Plug for aeration.

kevin16856
11-28-2010, 04:16 PM
James,
That's a much better response. Do you think, looking @ your LS rider, that a spreader, seeder, or aeravator tines could be added to it? Thanks.

Barefoot James
11-28-2010, 05:04 PM
Most anything JRCO has could be added - to the front castor wheels of the LS aerator - JRCO has a bar that mounts across it and you can then hook up lots of different attachments. The LS ride on aerator is the BOSS of aeration no other can really even compare - for pure aeration. The unit can pull 5 inch cores or half inch ones whatever you set it at. The tines go up and down in 1 second for turning and the turn radius is very tight will go around just about any tree - no problem. I don't know of the down force but it is over 1000 pounds way more than the Z plug.

Question though why would you want to add more aeration tines on a ride on aerator?? The slit seeder add on with the z plug is an, either/or attachment. You can't have the aerator and slit seeder on at the same time. Actually most of the options are either/or.
For slit seeding you should have a dedicated unit like the Turf Revitilizer (gets through most gates - if you want something for large acreage get a 30 inch Turf Revitilizer and for acres use a Landpride or seedovator (First Products). Seeding out front of aerators gives you crappy germination rates anyways. We have had good success aerationg then following it with a Turf Revitilizer seeding. The power seeder (TR) slits the seed in the soil and pulverizes the cores. Great for uneven and or clumpy patched properties.

LawnSolutionsCP
11-28-2010, 05:19 PM
Kevin,

I can't keep telling people on lawnsite what is coming down the pipe before our dealers and distributors. They get pissed because they are the last to know. I sent you a video link that will answer your question.

Hope that makes sense.

Yes, many new products are coming out very soon. Some unexpected ones as well.
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LawnSolutionsCP
11-28-2010, 05:28 PM
Did you get my PM
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kevin16856
11-28-2010, 05:33 PM
James,
Thanks for your input. I do appreciate it.
David/Lawn Solutions,
Did not get the video link, or PM

djagusch
11-28-2010, 05:40 PM
Kevin,

I can't keep telling people on lawnsite what is coming down the pipe before our dealers and distributors. They get pissed because they are the last to know. I sent you a video link that will answer your question.

Hope that makes sense.

Yes, many new products are coming out very soon. Some unexpected ones as well.
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Your website needs some updating to say the least. So to leak some stuff here I would think is in your best interests. Dealers may get upset but when I called the place selling them in mn you got the run around and I knew more about the product then them.
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LawnSolutionsCP
11-28-2010, 06:24 PM
Very true......and it is. Some of the new stuff is on YouTube if you want to see it.
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djagusch
11-28-2010, 07:16 PM
Very true......and it is. Some of the new stuff is on YouTube if you want to see it.
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Any info on the sprayer and spreader? I was planning on making a spray/spreader unit to go on my vride but this may sway some money another direction.

djagusch
11-28-2010, 07:20 PM
At 52 secs on the 24" video it looks like the rear wheels are tilting in. Why is this? Is it suppose to be that way?

LawnSolutionsCP
11-28-2010, 07:27 PM
Yes, but it is still early to share details.
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djagusch
11-28-2010, 07:47 PM
Yes, but it is still early to share details.
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Just remember timing is everything. You guys could of sold more 24" models if they were ready ahead of time and gave people a heads up.

Right now the season is done. I'm working on an equipment budget now for next year. It can change but many people plan at least a season ahead. So introducing stuff in April won't help out with our budgets unless it's for fall or winter. Guessing you guys work with budgets also. How far ahead do you guys plan?

LawnSolutionsCP
11-28-2010, 07:51 PM
I redesigned the 24 to make it more bad a$$. Look on YouTube for the 2011 model. We wanted to launch the 24 this coming spring just due to timing for several reasons.

I expect the 24 to make a huge impact this spring and it will be worth waiting for the new design.
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fatboynormmie
11-28-2010, 08:36 PM
That new 24 looks like the new benchmark in the walkbehind aerators arena.Man I wish I would have waited till next spring:hammerhead:Any pricing projections for the unit are they still around 4g

kennc38
11-28-2010, 09:17 PM
I redesigned the 24 to make it more bad a$$. Look on YouTube for the 2011 model. We wanted to launch the 24 this coming spring just due to timing for several reasons.

I expect the 24 to make a huge impact this spring and it will be worth waiting for the new design.
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Nice video of the 2011 model 24" aerator. Glad you not only showed the aerator's maneuverability but also the quality of the plugs/holes. Would not dread aerating season with one of those!

Exact Rototilling
01-30-2011, 05:40 PM
Ok we know that the tine spacing on the LS WB 21" and LS Stander are 3.5" x 6". Correct me if I'm wrong but i belive this to be the tightest spacing on a fixed production rolling tine aerator.

Ok now what about the the 24" Dually? My LS 21" also has 6 tines across?

Here is a pic from the video of the 24" and then one from the stander video.

LawnSolutionsCP
01-30-2011, 06:39 PM
The 24" machine is 4x6 instead of 3.5 x 6 like the other aerators we build.....to get it to still fit through a 36" gate, pull good plugs, turn while aerating, etc....this is the best setup we came up with.

Exact Rototilling
01-30-2011, 07:17 PM
Ok....4 x 6 is on par with many other aerators. The center gap between the left and right side looks wider than the spacing on the outer 3..L/R? I'm assuming it's basically a split hydro drive.
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LawnSolutionsCP
01-30-2011, 09:00 PM
It is a true split hydro drive, but the spacing is even all they way across. This unit you show is a early prototype and did have slightly different spacing.
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