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djlunchbox
11-05-2010, 08:28 PM
we are in the market for a truck. i am curious as to what guys are using on a daily basis in this industry. looking at a 1 ton dump that can pull a loaded 16 foot trailer loaded, and a few yards of stone or topsoil in the dump at the same time. please post the year and engine of your truck, and is it a pig or does it have power to spare. thanks!

Fresh_Cut
11-06-2010, 01:55 AM
5.4L in a '98 Ford E350 Box truck

Horrible mileage, plenty of power.....plenty

JNGLawncare
11-06-2010, 08:31 AM
5.8/351 97 ford f250 ext cab 4x4
Great power tows like nothing is behind it, gas mileage is terrible 10 to 13.
13 only happens on the highway.

White Gardens
11-06-2010, 09:33 AM
2001 Chevy C3500HD, 15K GVWR, 9200lbs empty, and I can haul 3.5 tons legally.

Has central hydrolics, 10 foot fisher trip edge plow, Flink under-tailgate salt spreader, 10 foot dump bed with drop sides, 19.5 steel rims, 8.1 motor with 4l80e auto trans.

The drop-sides are the bomb for loading or unloading pallets and my forks and bucket for my mini skid.

The 8.1 has more than enough power for what I do, and If I have a motor failure it would be a fraction of the cost to replace over a deisel.

http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=183348&d=1270515933

djlunchbox
11-06-2010, 10:06 AM
2001 Chevy C3500HD, 15K GVWR, 9200lbs empty, and I can haul 3.5 tons legally.

Has central hydrolics, 10 foot fisher trip edge plow, Flink under-tailgate salt spreader, 10 foot dump bed with drop sides, 19.5 steel rims, 8.1 motor with 4l80e auto trans.

The drop-sides are the bomb for loading or unloading pallets and my forks and bucket for my mini skid.

The 8.1 has more than enough power for what I do, and If I have a motor failure it would be a fraction of the cost to replace over a deisel.

http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=183348&d=1270515933

thanks for the replies so far guys, good stuff!

white gardens, i take it you pull your skid on a heavy trailer, the 8.1 has power to spare when towing with a loaded bed?

sgallaher
11-06-2010, 10:10 AM
7.3l f350...

White Gardens
11-06-2010, 10:14 AM
thanks for the replies so far guys, good stuff!

white gardens, i take it you pull your skid on a heavy trailer, the 8.1 has power to spare when towing with a loaded bed?

Oh ya. The skid gets pulled on a 10 K, 14ft tilt trailer. The mini only weighs around 2000lbs, so it's not much on the truck. At most I might also have my Backhoe attachment with it also, but that doesn't affect it much.

If I need a little extra power on hills, all I have to do is let off the throttle and it shifts into 3rd. (that is actually for engine braking on hills) Generally though at road speed it will pull a hill in D with minimal loss of power.

Even if it does go a little short on power, if I'm pulling a large load, I'm pretty easy on it as I want to make sure I can make a panic stop if I need to.

The 8.1 is a stroked out 454, so the total comes to 492. My sweet spot in the RPM range is around 2700 RPMs.

djlunchbox
11-06-2010, 12:45 PM
Oh ya. The skid gets pulled on a 10 K, 14ft tilt trailer. The mini only weighs around 2000lbs, so it's not much on the truck. At most I might also have my Backhoe attachment with it also, but that doesn't affect it much.

If I need a little extra power on hills, all I have to do is let off the throttle and it shifts into 3rd. (that is actually for engine braking on hills) Generally though at road speed it will pull a hill in D with minimal loss of power.

Even if it does go a little short on power, if I'm pulling a large load, I'm pretty easy on it as I want to make sure I can make a panic stop if I need to.

The 8.1 is a stroked out 454, so the total comes to 492. My sweet spot in the RPM range is around 2700 RPMs.

good info, thanks!:clapping:

mowerbrad
11-06-2010, 07:10 PM
I've got a 2007 Chevy 2500HD with the 6.0L vortec gas engine. It is great driving unloaded, great mileage and pretty fast. It gets 20mpg doing 55mph and 17-18mpg doing 65-70mph.

It is also great when towing. My trailer weighs 2700lbs empty, the mower is near 2000lbs, then a full load of grass and leaves is another 1500lbs +/-. So I'd say that I tow 6000+lbs fairly regularly. It tows that perfectly with plenty of power to spare. It does have the tow/haul mode which makes things even nicer when towing. The only bad part about the truck is that when towing it only gets 9mpg.

STIHL GUY
11-06-2010, 08:59 PM
05 2500HD 6.0L regular cab 8ft bed 4x4

plenty of power..gets 11-12 MPG loaded or unloaded

i love the truck and its a great work truck

djlunchbox
11-08-2010, 09:30 PM
so chevy guys, i wonder if a 3500 dump with the same motor would be worse as far as MPG. i would imagine so. another question that came up was: does a 3500, or f350 dually have the same rear springs as one with a dump body installed? if anyone knows, pipe up. :D

anyone here have a pre LBZ duramax motor ( i think before 2005 or 2007, cant remember right now) and have issues with the injectors? i know there was a recall, just curious if any of you have gone thru it and what the total cost of the fix was.

streetscrapin16
11-08-2010, 09:49 PM
2002 excursion v10 awesome pulling power not so good gas mileage

Gravel Rat
11-08-2010, 10:16 PM
Myself I think you are going to find the lack of braking power with any 1 ton trucks and you may run out of gvw. A 1 ton with a mason dump is heavy you add the tounge weight of a trailer say 1000lbs you would be left with 2000lbs of payload in the truck.

Looking Good Lawn Service
11-08-2010, 10:36 PM
so chevy guys, i wonder if a 3500 dump with the same motor would be worse as far as MPG. i would imagine so. another question that came up was: does a 3500, or f350 dually have the same rear springs as one with a dump body installed? if anyone knows, pipe up. :D

anyone here have a pre LBZ duramax motor ( i think before 2005 or 2007, cant remember right now) and have issues with the injectors? i know there was a recall, just curious if any of you have gone thru it and what the total cost of the fix was.

THe dually trucks and the chassis cabs do not have the same frames, the duallys have wider frame rail spacing and frames are not completely flat and clear, where the Chassis cabs are industry standard 34" frame rail spacing, and are completely flat. axle weight ratings are the same in the newer dually trucks and chassis cabs, not in the older trucks....chassis cabs may also have lower rear end ratios as well, resulting in worse fuel economy, but whats the dif between 7 or 8 mpg, they are both awful, so just work it and drive right, and it will do the best mpg

THEENER
11-10-2010, 05:47 PM
I use a 3500 silverado with my own designed side load side dump hydraulic truck bed

BlackDog3
11-10-2010, 05:55 PM
I have a 98 3500 HD stakebody, It has a 6.5 diesel in it. Its a great truck but the 6.5 is its downfall. Only reason why i bought it was of the 15,000 GVW. The new chevy 3500's only have an 11,000 or 12,000 GVW unless you step up to the kodiak series.

Chris

White Gardens
11-10-2010, 06:46 PM
I have a 98 3500 HD stakebody, It has a 6.5 diesel in it. Its a great truck but the 6.5 is its downfall. Only reason why i bought it was of the 15,000 GVW. The new chevy 3500's only have an 11,000 or 12,000 GVW unless you step up to the kodiak series.

Chris

I think that's why I like my 01 C3500HD, it has the 8.1 so I don't feel short on power. Anything less for a gas motor and it would dog at 9200lbs. empty.

Gravel Rat is right though. Regardless how much the gvwr is for the truck, braking becomes an issue without stepping up to air brakes.

kylesturf
11-10-2010, 07:13 PM
get a dodge or a chevy unless u want a lot of done time with truck in shop.

BlackDog3
11-10-2010, 09:03 PM
Ya brakes aren't the best on my truck with a load but i believe they are hydroboost, which in my opinion are better.

Chris

Gravel Rat
11-10-2010, 11:51 PM
Trucks with 19.5 wheels will have biggest brakes you can get in a 1.5 ton truck. A regular 1 ton with 16 inch or 17 inch wheels don't have the braking power.

BlackDog3
11-11-2010, 07:51 AM
I also agree with that 100%, my 98 1500 cant stop to save its life just by itself!

Chris

White Gardens
11-11-2010, 11:37 AM
Trucks with 19.5 wheels will have biggest brakes you can get in a 1.5 ton truck. A regular 1 ton with 16 inch or 17 inch wheels don't have the braking power.

Ya tell me about it. I just replaced the front pads on my truck and the place where I got them kept asking me if they were the right ones as they were massive.

Another thought is too, if your pulling a trailer, good trailer brakes are going to make a huge difference too.

djlunchbox
11-11-2010, 12:12 PM
awesome info guys, thanks a bunch. a little update in our search... it's over. we ended up picking up a 2003 3500 extended cab dump. 40,000 miles if i remember. we did a trade of a 01 1500 truck that we had and were trying to sell. it worked out, spent just a little more than we wanted, but the truck is clean and never plowed. i decided to just lay off the diesel search for now after reading up on the duramax's and the earlier injector issues. i will purchase a duramax 2500 as my personal vehicle within a few months. that will still the diesel bug for me, lol.

i do enjoy checking up on this thread tho ( i work at my full time job and i can check in here throughout the day) the info about the frames and brakes is awesome. keep it coming!

thanks again!

White Gardens
11-11-2010, 12:19 PM
awesome info guys, thanks a bunch. a little update in our search... it's over. we ended up picking up a 2003 3500 extended cab dump. 40,000 miles if i remember. we did a trade of a 01 1500 truck that we had and were trying to sell. it worked out, spent just a little more than we wanted, but the truck is clean and never plowed. i decided to just lay off the diesel search for now after reading up on the duramax's and the earlier injector issues. i will purchase a duramax 2500 as my personal vehicle within a few months. that will still the diesel bug for me, lol.

i do enjoy checking up on this thread tho ( i work at my full time job and i can check in here throughout the day) the info about the frames and brakes is awesome. keep it coming!

thanks again!

What's the GVWR on the truck you bought?

lyube
11-12-2010, 09:45 PM
2000 and 1997 e350 Ford 15' box trucks, 5.4l triton, f150 5.4l triton, 2004 6.0 PSD f250. All run great.

djlunchbox
11-16-2010, 06:47 PM
What's the GVWR on the truck you bought?

no idea, its the old mans, lol. i'll find out for you tho.

White Gardens
11-16-2010, 07:22 PM
no idea, its the old mans, lol. i'll find out for you tho.

Should be on the door pillar, drivers side rear pillar.

djlunchbox
11-16-2010, 07:45 PM
Should be on the door pillar, drivers side rear pillar.
i'll call him in a few, he just dropped me off at my house and headed home.

djlunchbox
11-16-2010, 07:53 PM
apparently he dropped the truck off for repairs ( lights stopped working )

he said he thinks it's 13500 lbs.

just curious or asking for a reason?

djlunchbox
11-16-2010, 07:57 PM
here it is a few hours ago.

WorldsStrongestLandscaper
11-16-2010, 09:07 PM
One of my crew(24'enclosed 7000 lb trailer pulls with my 04 chevy 2500hd gas 6.0 for 60,000 miles (plows in winter with tailgate sander) we did phenominal until this june when the tranny and flywheel gernaded in 2 pieces! Trucks not the same since its been violated!Too much power not enough built ford tough! My 03 f-350 crew 6'bed 90,000k pulls another similar trailer,great strong truck but not enough hp or torque, no problems. 04 Diesel ford 6.0 minimal repairs 60,000k pulls 14,000k dump trailer always loaded to the max, greatest truck ever! Too much hp and torque for some of the guys(Driving fast) 05'F-550 crew 12 rack dump pulls 20,000lb (excavator 13,500) trailer with 3.5-4.5 tons in the bed 6.0 35,000k. It does well as it is geared lower direct from the factory. Empty it flies for as big as it is! That's what I got so I hope it helps! Good luck remember don't just buy it cuz it looks nice! BIG STEVE B CT STRENGTH WSL
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meets1
11-16-2010, 09:51 PM
running two diesels - an 08 and a new 11. So far the 11 truck is smoother, quiter, and seems more taunt. the other trucks are 07,08,09 gas engines 6.0 Plenty of power, loaded, 5th wheel with skid/stone/block/sod really not a problem.