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hall1000
11-26-2010, 12:08 AM
hi everyone, i am 16 years old and im going to start my own landscaping business in the spring.I am going to try to get 15 to 20 customers. I have a 05' silverado with a 4.3l v6. I am probably going to get a 40-44in wb and i have a 21in mower, weed wacker, blower, and hedge trimmers. So what size trailer do you think would be necessary and size trailer do you think my truck could haul.

KS_Grasscutter
11-26-2010, 12:18 AM
6 x 10 would be about perfect for that equipment. I have a 6.5x12 and a 7x16, the 12 was perfect but tight for a 52 inch zero turn and a 32 inch wb.
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mowerbrad
11-26-2010, 12:21 AM
To many of us, we can never have a trailer too big. For you, I'd say a 6x12 single axle trailer would be fine.

You'd be towing roughly 2000-2500lbs max, including the trailer weight...I don't know the specs of your truck, but it should be able to tow that with no problem.

hall1000
11-26-2010, 12:25 AM
That's what size i was thinking. I think my truck would be able to haul it easily. With a 6x12 i would have extra room to haul away debree to.

93Chevy
11-26-2010, 12:35 AM
I might be selling a 16' trailer and 48" wb this winter if you're looking

JayD
11-26-2010, 12:49 AM
You will out grow it fast so get one as big as you can.

GreenGiant94
11-26-2010, 01:16 AM
I might be selling a 16' trailer and 48" wb this winter if you're looking

You ain't selling your snapper Pro wb are ya? Man that seems like a good mower and it leaves some great stripes. I have a 36in sw20.

93Chevy
11-26-2010, 09:29 AM
You ain't selling your snapper Pro wb are ya? Man that seems like a good mower and it leaves some great stripes. I have a 36in sw20.

Yeah...it's a good mower...I don't want to hijack the thread, but I might be looking to get out this winter

Darryl G
11-26-2010, 09:53 AM
I vote for a 6 x 12 as well. Not much room for a rider on a 5 x 10 if you expand. A 6 x 12 has almost 50% more room and your truck should haul it fine.

gasracer
11-26-2010, 10:50 AM
I have used a 6X12 for a few years. I can get my 52" ZTR and a 48" WB back to back on it or one of the big mowers, a 36" with a 21" push.

Robert Pruitt
11-26-2010, 10:59 AM
I used a 6x12 for years. finally bit the bullet and got a 16ft. now wished i would have went with a 18ft. the 16ft. gets a little cramped in plugging season with equipment for plugging and mowing on the same load.

gasracer
11-26-2010, 11:12 AM
I refuse to go any longer than 12ft.I have issues now turning it around with my Long bed truck in tight spots.My next move up is a Landscape truck.8ft wide 18ft long.

Robert Pruitt
11-26-2010, 11:19 AM
I refuse to go any longer than 12ft.I have issues now turning it around with my Long bed truck in tight spots.My next move up is a Landscape truck.8ft wide 18ft long.

yea i know what you mean. I don't have a long bed but bent two right side wheels before i got use to it. guess i can blame it on the engineers that designed the narrow roads in this city. my tax $$ at work.

JayD
11-26-2010, 03:06 PM
I have a 6x14 single axle that works good. It is the biggest you can get before moving up to a tandem.

hall1000
11-26-2010, 06:17 PM
Thanks everyone I think i am going to get a 6x12 trailer. I hope it isn't to big and i can handle since it is my first trailer. I hoping that i will be fine backing it up with that big of a trailer.

93Chevy
11-26-2010, 06:24 PM
The bigger the trailer, the easier it is to back up...I can back up a 16' like nothing but I'd probably struggle with a 12' single axle...

You'll be okay, just be careful. Use your mirrors and don't lose the trailer in your mirrors.

RGM
11-26-2010, 06:25 PM
My first 2 years I ran with just the truck I could get 2 48'' walkbehinds in my full size bed. When I got up to 35 -40 customers the trailer and zero turn were bought in my 3rd year. I bought the 16'' it held the zero and the 2 walk behinds. Now I mainly work by myself and just take out a push with either the zero turn of the walk behind and have a smaller 10 ft trailer.

Robert Pruitt
11-26-2010, 06:34 PM
One good thing with the 12ft. you can pick it up by the tongue to move it around.

hall1000
11-26-2010, 06:56 PM
I think i will be fine with it then. What kind of used wb do you think I should be looking for? Do you think i should get one with a bagger kit on it? I been looking on craigslist for a while but do you think it is possibly to buy one under 1000 dollars.

Darryl G
11-26-2010, 06:57 PM
Open trailers aren't bad too bad up because you can look over your shoulder and see where it's going, but it can be a little tricky at first. One of the hardest things to get used to is how much room you need for the front end of your truck to get the trailer where you need it to go. Always back up slowly!

mowerbrad
11-26-2010, 08:27 PM
I think it is very smart of you to go for the 6x12 trailer. That trailer is a good size and should still give you room to put some extra stuff on, especially if you plan on staying with a walk behind mower.

A 6x12 trailer is a size that really follows the truck nicely, meaning you won't have to take very wide turns...you probably won't really have to worry about turning with it actually. When you are backing up, learn to use your mirrors...you will thank yourself for it. It is much easier to back up a trailer using your mirrors once you get used to it.

As far as what type of walk behind to get, a belt drive will be your best bet if you are working with a tight budget. I wouldn't be too picky on sizes, anywhere from 36"-48" should be fine. Get a name brand and one that appears to be in good condition.

Best of luck to you.

hall1000
11-26-2010, 11:18 PM
Thanks. I need to find a good wb for about 1000 dollars that's all my budget let's me. I don't want to get one that's to big and wouldn't be able to fit through fences since I would only have 1 wb and a 21 inch mower
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Darryl G
11-27-2010, 12:10 AM
Gonna be hard to get anything decent for $1,000. You might need to just go with small lawns and a 21 incher to start. Skip the trailer and just ramp the walk behind into the truck once you can afford a decent one.

hall1000
11-27-2010, 12:24 AM
Well my mom boss has a 6x12 trailer and she will probably sell it to her for like 200 dollars and gave it to me for Christmas but I could probably get more money for a wb. Like how much could I get a decent one for?
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Darryl G
11-27-2010, 01:45 AM
I dunno..maybe $2,000 to $2,500 for a commercial walk behind in good shape.

hall1000
11-27-2010, 10:24 AM
well hopefully I can find one.

gasracer
11-27-2010, 10:45 AM
I prefer hydros but they do cost more than a belt drive. If you are going to do yards with gates you should get a 36". 48" will fit through some gates if they swing the right way, it depends on who your clients are. I found my last 2 machines on Craigslist,both had low hours. My 48" wasn't cheap but it was still half of new cost.Call your insurance company the day you buy it.

hall1000
11-27-2010, 11:01 AM
I don't want to get to big of one that i cant control fully and gave them a bad cut either. Does it make a difference with the bigger ones and how they handle?

Darryl G
11-27-2010, 11:30 AM
I'd look on here as well. Do a search in the equipment section.

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=334418&highlight=mower
http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=333650&highlight=mower
http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=334315&highlight=mower
http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=334228&highlight=mower

hall1000
11-27-2010, 11:48 AM
Those are some pretty nice mowers but you were right they are around 2000 dollars. I will look around on there for some more.

JayD
11-27-2010, 12:14 PM
Those are some pretty nice mowers but you were right they are around 2000 dollars. I will look around on there for some more.

Not sure if this has been said already, but you might contact all dealers around you and tell them what your looking for and they talk to a lot of their customers and many trade in every year or two.....

hall1000
11-27-2010, 12:23 PM
Nope he didn't say that yet but maybe I will try that to soon
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JayD
11-27-2010, 01:06 PM
Nope he didn't say that yet but maybe I will try that to soon
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My dealer gets trade ins but they don't usually last long, that's why I thought you should go ahead and let them know what your looking for and you will be on their list to call and let you know when they came in. I know they told me that many trade in every year or two no matter how many hours are on them.

hall1000
11-27-2010, 01:11 PM
I will call them on Monday and let them know then.

gasracer
11-27-2010, 09:58 PM
If you were close to Tennessee I would offer you my 36" WB.

hall1000
11-27-2010, 10:06 PM
I went to tennessee one time it is like 8 hours away from my house. I don't think that I would drive that far for a mower. How much you asking for it?
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Darryl G
11-27-2010, 11:03 PM
I walked across Tn, lol

hall1000
11-27-2010, 11:07 PM
I walked across Tn, lol
Random? Much lol
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Darryl G
11-27-2010, 11:09 PM
I walked across Pa too, lol

hall1000
11-27-2010, 11:11 PM
I walked across Pa too, lol
So what other states you walk across
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Darryl G
11-27-2010, 11:14 PM
ummm...I dunno, like 14 total...appalachian trail from Georgia to Maine and then Continental Divide trail from Canada through Montanna and 2/3 of the way through Wyoming. That's before I had a riding mower though, rofl.

hall1000
11-27-2010, 11:29 PM
ummm...I dunno, like 14 total...appalachian trail from Georgia to Maine and then Continental Divide trail from Canada through Montanna and 2/3 of the way through Wyoming. That's before I had a riding mower though, rofl.
So now you just ride through the states
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JayD
11-27-2010, 11:44 PM
So now you just ride through the states
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Hall, what state are you in?

hall1000
11-27-2010, 11:50 PM
Pennsylvania why?
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JayD
11-28-2010, 12:23 AM
Pennsylvania why?
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just wondering where merrsville was.....thought if you were close, I keep my eye open for ya...

hall1000
11-28-2010, 12:38 AM
just wondering where merrsville was.....thought if you were close, I keep my eye open for ya...

Its in southwestern, Pa
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StihlBR600
11-28-2010, 10:51 AM
A 5 x 10 will work perfect but in a couple years youll be buying a bigger trailer. I started when i was 16 (now almost 19) with a 5 x 10 and still use it today. This spring ill be buying a 6 x 14 all aluminum double axle.

hall1000
11-28-2010, 01:34 PM
A 5 x 10 will work perfect but in a couple years youll be buying a bigger trailer. I started when i was 16 (now almost 19) with a 5 x 10 and still use it today. This spring ill be buying a 6 x 14 all aluminum double axle.

So you think I should just get a 5x10
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StihlBR600
11-28-2010, 01:42 PM
Yes. A 5 x 10 will be cheaper, lighter and a lot easier to tow around. If you get more accounts in a couple of years you can sell it and get a bigger one. But if you find a good deal on a 6 x 12 buy it.

gasracer
11-28-2010, 03:24 PM
I went to tennessee one time it is like 8 hours away from my house. I don't think that I would drive that far for a mower. How much you asking for it?
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I would take $1,800.OBO. It has 221 hours on the meter.

A 6ft. wide trailer works better(Remember a 60" wide mower is 5ft.)

hall1000
11-28-2010, 04:04 PM
I would take $1,800.OBO. It has 221 hours on the meter.

A 6ft. wide trailer works better(Remember a 60" wide mower is 5ft.)
I don't think I would drive that far for it lol. True so your better off buying a 6 ft wide trailer but I don't think I will be getting a 60inch mower anytime soon
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gasracer
11-28-2010, 04:25 PM
I don't think I would drive that far for it lol. True so your better off buying a 6 ft wide trailer but I don't think I will be getting a 60inch mower anytime soon
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When I run the vacuum bagger on my 52" ZTR it almost takes up the whole width of the 6' 4" trailer.

Darryl G
11-28-2010, 04:35 PM
Nice to have the room for clippings/mulch/brush/leaves too. You can put some low plywood sides on it and use it as a general utility trailer as well as for equipment. My first season when I had just a 48 inch walk behind mower I put a 4 foot tall plywood box on the front of my 6 x 12 trailer for leaf cleanups. Leaves in front and mower on the back.

Most people outgrow a 5 x 10 pretty fast. Yeah it may look a little silly with just a 36 inch and 21 incher on a 6 x 12 at first but I think it's much more usefull overall. Either one really, your call. But I wouldn't go any smaller and you certainly don't need any bigger to start out.

hall1000
11-28-2010, 04:35 PM
When I run the vacuum bagger on my 52" ZTR it almost takes up the whole width of the 6' 4" trailer.

Well im not going to have that big of a mower anytime soon or have a vacuum bagger on a mower. I think i can get a good deal on a 6x12 so i probably will get a 6x12

hall1000
11-28-2010, 04:37 PM
Nice to have the room for clippings/mulch/brush/leaves too. You can put some low plywood sides on it and use it as a general utility trailer as well as for equipment. My first season when I had just a 48 inch walk behind mower I put a 4 foot tall plywood box on the front of my 6 x 12 trailer for leaf cleanups. Leaves in front and mower on the back.

Most people outgrow a 5 x 10 pretty fast. Yeah it may look a little silly with just a 36 inch and 21 incher on a 6 x 12 at first but I think it's much more usefull overall. Either one really, your call. But I wouldn't go any smaller and you certainly don't need any bigger to start out.

That it a good idea to put the planks up and like make a box to put your debree in. I was just thinking about putting it in my truck bed but that might be a better idea

XLS
11-28-2010, 06:07 PM
I dont understand why there is so many LCO start ups with NO dreams at all i see it so much on these sites . how about instead of buying trailers ad crews so you can get out of the field and into the office making sales , we use alot of pickup truck systems and our biggest mowing crew trailer is 12' with alot of 8'x10 trailers but it dont take 16' trailers for lawn care at all . With what i see you pulling a 6.5x12' will stay for a long long time.
buy a trailer and when you out grow it add a truck not a bigger trailer ....... a bigger trailer means YOUR still doing all the work .

Robert Pruitt
11-28-2010, 08:04 PM
would not go any smaller than a 12'. your a little young to know what you really want to do. i have been doing this as a p/t job since the early 90's while working my f/t job at nite. retired from the full time job in Aug. at 50. do not want to get much bigger than i am now. depending how far you want to go don't think you can over buy a trailer.

hall1000
11-28-2010, 08:09 PM
would not go any smaller than a 12'. your a little young to know what you really want to do. i have been doing this as a p/t job since the early 90's while working my f/t job at nite. retired from the full time job in Aug. at 50. do not want to get much bigger than i am now. depending how far you want to go don't think you can over buy a trailer.

I think i am just going to go with a 6x12 because almost everyone said to get a 6x12 and only like one or two people said to go with a 5x10.