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Ric
11-30-2010, 05:55 PM
Here is part of a Copy & Paste from a competitive publisher. TG Land care pulled out of my town after only one year. Typical of TG/CL, the land care division turned Fine Yards into Pasture Grass. I remember well the disscussion here on Lawnsite when TG/CL started the Land Care division.





According to recent filings with the SEC, ServiceMaster is considering a sale of its landscape division, TruGreen LandCare.

The company’s landscape division has been pinched by a drop in revenue, an increase in technician overtime costs and charges related to executive separations, according to its most recent 10-Q form.

As a result, ServiceMaster is “exploring strategic options relating to TruGreen LandCare, including the potential sale of the business,” the filings state.

Pat Spainhour, CEO of ServiceMaster, said this in a statement:

“Like all companies, we continuously review our businesses against competitive and financial factors to ensure we are maximizing the value of our assets for our customers and investors. Given the challenges of the current economic environment and the performance of TruGreen LandCare, our commercial landscaping business, we have decided to explore strategic options for this single business. These options could include the sale of the business, a sale of certain assets of the business or a restructuring of the business.

MarcSmith
11-30-2010, 06:21 PM
I coudl see the land care haveing some value, but the lawncare division not.

here in the midatlantic region TG bought out maje companies like Ruppert, scapes, to name a few to "buy into" the market.

once the non competes ended, companies like ruppert and scapes(now under new name) got back into the business and have been scooping up jobs they used to have before they got bought...

with the economy the way it is, thinsg are getting tight. and competition is feirce. but I feel that TG is loosing more market share in this area, which was one of its more profitable regions.

I doubt they will be able to sell it whole. it will get parted out and chopped up...

ted putnam
11-30-2010, 09:08 PM
I coudl see the land care haveing some value, but the lawncare division not.

here in the midatlantic region TG bought out maje companies like Ruppert, scapes, to name a few to "buy into" the market.

once the non competes ended, companies like ruppert and scapes(now under new name) got back into the business and have been scooping up jobs they used to have before they got bought...

with the economy the way it is, thinsg are getting tight. and competition is feirce. but I feel that TG is loosing more market share in this area, which was one of its more profitable regions.

I doubt they will be able to sell it whole. it will get parted out and chopped up...

They did the same thing(buy out) of one of the major "players" here in the Little Rock Metro area about 3 yrs ago and I've been told the "no compete" agreement is a couple months away from expiring. I've also heard the previous owner/management will also be scooping up old accounts as well. IMHO, buy outs are a poor business strategy for a a business that only provides mediocre service at best overall. The security of the no compete agreement offers protection for a limited time only. After that, only superior service or a larger bank account can save the ship.

MarcSmith
11-30-2010, 09:12 PM
when they bought out they kept all the staff and basically it was a name change more than anything... but after a few years the TG mentality krept in. thats when I left..

Ric
12-01-2010, 11:48 AM
when they bought out they kept all the staff and basically it was a name change more than anything... but after a few years the TG mentality krept in. thats when I left..

Marc

You know my area since you once lived here. My town is small and to my knowledge TG/CL didn't buy out any local companies. Where I saw them were the National accounts. Fact was the first couple of service calls were actually very good work in some cases. That changed real quick. They hit a lot of Condos and pick up a few at rock bottom prices. Once again the work was way below standard but when I was called for an estimate their low ball prices had the pencil pusher trained. I don't think they lasted a year maybe two in my town. They are still both North & South of me in the larger towns, but they have a very small share of the Market in those towns.

One of the problem in Florida is the price competition among mowing companies. Every Darwin Award Candidate has a mowing service. You can find $ 10 mows on Crag's list. This price war continues up the line to Valley Crest and TG Land Care. When I see the prices these guys are charging I can't understand how they can make it even doing the crappy work that they do. I think the untrained salesmen give away service just to make commission that day knowing they aren't going to last

coolluv
12-01-2010, 04:53 PM
Quote One of the problem in Florida is the price competition among mowing companies. Every Darwin Award Candidate has a mowing service.

That is some funny $h9t. We have the same problem here in Ga.

Gotta love it, and the funny thing is there will be more next year.:laugh::laugh:

Dave...

SpreadNSpray
12-05-2010, 07:47 PM
Interesting. Where would that leave Service Master's focus concerning business in the green industry?

Ric
12-06-2010, 05:45 PM
Interesting. Where would that leave Service Master's focus concerning business in the green industry?

SpreadNspray

I was hoping someone else would answer this but I did start this thread so here it goes.

Service Master isn't going to change their focus. It will be the same as it was before they started True Land Care. Which didn't change after they started True Land Care. So nothing is going to change with TG/CL, They will still be a Marketing Company that offeres 4th rate Green service.

Lawnboy3680
01-02-2011, 01:40 AM
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Lawnboy3680
01-02-2011, 01:53 AM
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Just to be clear it is my understanding the company for sale is the landscape division and maintenance( mowing etc.) Trugreen chemlawn is not for sale. I have to say the Trugreen landcare company has been run into the ground. A couple of years ago these geniuses decided to buy all Husquavarna equipment because it was cheap. Well you get what you pay for. It was cheap junk in every way. They dumped that junk and followed it by buying Snapper and ferris for the same reason ( cheap). Well the problems are back. Who ever buys them better figure on new equipment.
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Dakotadog
01-12-2011, 10:56 AM
Just to be clear it is my understanding the company for sale is the landscape division and maintenance( mowing etc.) Trugreen chemlawn is not for sale. I have to say the Trugreen landcare company has been run into the ground. A couple of years ago these geniuses decided to buy all Husquavarna equipment because it was cheap. Well you get what you pay for. It was cheap junk in every way. They dumped that junk and followed it by buying Snapper and ferris for the same reason ( cheap). Well the problems are back. Who ever buys them better figure on new equipment.
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Lawnboy before you say the equipment is cheap maybe you want to go see how this equipment is ran. When rear bumbers are getting torn off the units and frames are getting bent how is that chep on Ferris or Snapper Pro part?? It is pure abuse. Bent decks, bent spindles if the operator hits steel pipes in the ground how is that cheap?? So please use the words cheap sparingly. ABUSE is more like it!!!!!

olcllc
01-12-2011, 11:36 AM
I Picked up 35 TG accounts this fall and plan to pick up some more in the spring. Their business model does not work here and this is not to say that all TG personnel are the same. I'm sure there are those that are conscientious but the whole Profit over Service approach will doom any company no matter their size.

Nearly every customer I gained had the same complaint; poor service and harassing sales calls.

Ric
01-12-2011, 12:34 PM
Just to be clear it is my understanding the company for sale is the landscape division and maintenance( mowing etc.) Trugreen chemlawn is not for sale. I have to say the Trugreen landcare company has been run into the ground. A couple of years ago these geniuses decided to buy all Husquavarna equipment because it was cheap. Well you get what you pay for. It was cheap junk in every way. They dumped that junk and followed it by buying Snapper and ferris for the same reason ( cheap). Well the problems are back. Who ever buys them better figure on new equipment.
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Lawboy

TG/CL Fert & Land care divisions use the same Crapola business plan which provides poor service. BUT the land care division has the disadvantage of having it's poor work show up quicker. TG/CL is a great marketing Company that blows a lot of smoke but not very quality work. From what I see the former TG/CL employees like to Blow Smoke about how great they are when in fact they also produce Crapola.