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loser135
12-05-2010, 05:47 AM
Have a high end client with 6 15' Crape Myrtles at front door of their corp HQ they want to wrap. This is my second season so I haven't done a project like this yet. Does anyone have any idea about how many 50' strands per tree? I think I'm going to give them a good pruning before we start and get them back to 10' or so. Any idea about how many man hours to estimate? I've searched forum and elsewhere online for info but anything you guys could offer wold be appreciated.

LizzieLandscapes
12-05-2010, 07:04 AM
Just guessing here but I would buy 4 strands per tree. That should be more than you'll need. No idea on what to charge for it.
For a job such as this that involves ladder work, I suggest charging more than your hourly labor charge. Say you charge is 45.00 an hour normally, add 15.00 or 20 on top of that. Or just charge 60 bucks per tree plus materials. It pretty much depends on what it is going to cost you to do the job plus an added profit margin.

loser135
12-05-2010, 10:06 AM
I'm talking wrapping trunks, as many limbs as possible. The sales guy told me much more than that. A LOT MORE!!! How about white wire vs. green wire? Deciduous tree, leaves gone. ANy preferences? Thanks!

wurkn with amish
12-05-2010, 12:20 PM
If you butcher the tree back to 10ft and wrap the individual limbs and trunks I would figure 12 per tree.......
cords
triple taps
orchard ladder
lights with green wire
no more than 1200-1500 lights on a 15 amp breaker

David Gretzmier
12-05-2010, 07:00 PM
we charge 25 per 100 lights, if you are tightwrapping use 3-4 inch spacing minis and I would estimate 500-1000 per tree depending on what I estimate when I look at them.

loser135
12-06-2010, 10:17 AM
Jus ordered 42 75' 200 bulb strands (4.5" spacing). Have extra 50' sets at shop if needed so hope that's enough. Thanks for the input (keep any relevant info coming!) & I'll post pics when finished.

wurkn with amish
12-07-2010, 05:26 PM
your gonna hate messing with 75' strands! max I go are 50 footers and they're a pain also.

loser135
12-07-2010, 06:17 PM
Maks sense. I guess we'll just chalk that up at learning experience. Couldn't find any 50' with tighter spacing. We'll see what happens. Thanks for your help.

alf500series
12-07-2010, 10:23 PM
id go with the green wire(won't stick out like a sore thumb) and the 12 strands sounds pretty close. as far as what to charge--i charge $2.50 a foot.

LizzieLandscapes
12-08-2010, 05:18 AM
I didn't consider wrapping the trunks, my bad. A 15' tree isn't that tall so I wouldn't think you would need 12 per tree...that's 600' of lights per tree! So loser I'm glad you bought what you did. Go green wire for sure!

loser135
12-11-2010, 09:39 AM
Got them up yesterday. 33 man hrs! I wasn't too sure of the dollar rates some of you were suggesting but now I understand! Took forever to get them up! wurkin- You are absolutely correct. 75' would have been almost impossible. Crapes were pruned (butchered?) back but still needed more as there were tight spacing between some of the limbs. We used the green wire which I agree was best. 6" spacing all that we could get but next year I'll be sure and order 25' sets with 4" spacing. I'll post pics soon. Thanks again for all you help and advice!

wurkn with amish
12-11-2010, 11:40 AM
nothing wrong with 6" spacing..... gives you lots of light, and it doesn't look overly clustered. Do you mind posting a pic? I will try to get some light pics up when I finally get out and grab some pics.

David Gretzmier
12-11-2010, 08:51 PM
tight wrapping goes faster with 3 or 4 inch spacing as you can make the gaps between wires greater and have less rotations. 6 inch is for canopy coverage. I found some 9 inch spacing on mini's this year and that would be perfect for smallish trees ( 15-25 footers. ) with 18 inches to 2 foot spacing.

loser135
12-16-2010, 10:18 AM
Looks like a million bucks from a distance. Looks good up close too and they are apparently happy so all is well. Thanks for all your help! 7000+ lights.

addictedtolandscaping
12-16-2010, 04:24 PM
they look fantastic!!

wurkn with amish
12-17-2010, 11:50 AM
You did a nice job!

Lefet
12-17-2010, 12:25 PM
Great job!! I love those "first time" projects that just seem to turn out fantastic.
Congratulations!!

jonthepain
12-17-2010, 03:23 PM
Wow that looks great!

Maybe next year they'll ask you to do the big one in the center also. :)