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GroundKprs
08-27-2002, 10:38 PM
OK, time for another wacko contest. How does Jim get this driveway edge to look like the left side of the bucket?

The pavement is about 1" above the soil, and mowing is done perpendicular to the drive, so there is a ragged edge. My answer is to modify a common piece of equipment, in such a way that anyone can do this the first day on the job - no special expertise needed. Sorry, trimmer, it's not a string trimmer. (BTW , I used to think it would be fun to have trimmer contests at some events. Maybe tack a bunch of balloons to the ground, and see who could trim closest to his balloon without popping it. Then I saw trimmer's work on this forum. Forget any contest!)

This really is a nice lawn, disregard the colors - me and camera don't get along. Will give my answer Friday evening, unless someone guesses it sooner.

Floridalandcare
08-28-2002, 12:27 AM
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Mykster
08-28-2002, 12:40 AM
Move the bucket.

TLS
08-28-2002, 12:43 AM
I guess I just don't get it?

I would simply mow parallell to the drive FIRST, and then mow perpendicular.

If thats not it, then I just dont understand what you are asking?

Please clarify!

:confused:

Guido
08-28-2002, 04:32 AM
What are you talking about? You've got me puzzled, probobly because I don't understand the question?

Please clarify for the dumb in me! :)

GroundKprs
08-28-2002, 08:16 AM
Sorry, if your cutting deck is outside your wheelbase, blades will overhang the drive and cut it level. But with smaller machines, where the wheelbase and deck width are the same, I often see guys going along the concrete walk or drive with a string trimmer to level the turf - and they usually wind up scalping it. Even when you run parallel to the walk or drive with one of these machines, the grass right at the edge is 1" (or whatever the pavement height) higher than the rest of the lawn. This tends to look scraggled from a distance view, with the pavement in the background. Especially in new lawns, where the turf surface should be set 3/4" below pavements, this can be an aesthetic problem.

The human eye is drawn to interfaces (borders). No matter how well the lawn is mowed, forgetting to trim around a tree or along a fence will make the job look poor, even though that was way less than 1% of the work done. When you make sure that these interfaces are not imperfect to the subconscious, you can present a better picture of your work on each site.

I'll hope this pic looks better.

MOW ED
08-28-2002, 08:28 AM
That pic is trimmed so well it looks like you used a straight edge on it.
:D

TLS
08-28-2002, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by GroundKprs
Sorry, if your cutting deck is outside your wheelbase, blades will overhang the drive and cut it level. But with smaller machines, where the wheelbase and deck width are the same, I often see guys going along the concrete walk or drive with a string trimmer to level the turf - and they usually wind up scalping it.


Thats EXACTLY why deck offset/overhang is SO very important! Purchase the proper mower, and this just isn't a problem.

So, I guess because I have the proper equipment, I failed the QUIZ? :eek:

GUIDO.....Your Back! :cool:

Southern Lawns
08-28-2002, 12:09 PM
Hey! Is Carlos moonlighting for you Jim?
Carlos works with me. Is the smoothest man I have ever seen with equipment. He trims as level as mowers cut. Period!
As far as the trimmer contest, whats the prize? New trimmer?
I'll match him to anyone!:D We could always use a new trimmer:p

In case Carlos ever decides to leave us, I'll need to know your answer. I'll tune in Friday.
Raymond

Southern Lawns
08-28-2002, 12:19 PM
Afterthought:

As you mentioned eyes are drawn to the interfaces.
The way we trim out a lawn for service is similiar to painting a room. We edge all edges (walks,drives,roadfront and beds) and trim all edges as well. Then we mow the interior. May take a moment or two longer but it sure gives the property the (gone the extra mile) manicured look.

parkmaster
08-28-2002, 05:04 PM
take a small p/m (lawnboy will do) adjust one side lower than the other have two wheels on backtop so cut looks level
(hope blacktop is 1" above grade along it length as you say) Groundkprs is how i might do it.

like i said just my .02


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Barker's Lawn Care
08-28-2002, 05:07 PM
Sorry im lost.

Could u possibly mean leveling the trimmer head then cutting into/up against the sidewalk? Thats what i use to get a clean/level edge.

????????

Five Star Lawn Care LLC
08-28-2002, 05:44 PM
i would just solve it by running a string trimmer down it but heres another couple of guess's

put one set of wheels onto the turf and put the other set just on the concrete so that the blades will be lower on the edge of the grass and run down the whole strip. but you would likely run into some scalping problems if the grass was alot higher than the concrete

second.... if you have an offset deck throw all 4 wheels on the concrete and put the offset part of the deck on the grass and run down the edge



i still think the best method would just be a string trimmer, a skilled trimmer man could make it look better than a mower

GroundKprs
08-28-2002, 10:08 PM
I'm making them too easy. Parkmaster hit the nail on the head. I take care of the trick edges right while I'm mowing. Just tilt one side of the mower down to make an elevated walk, drive or curb perfectly cut. Also use it the other way, raising the left side, for curbs where the ground is elevated way above the curb.

Of course, I know most don't mow that much with 21" machines, but for those who do, you can save the hassle of trying to trim the interface flat with a string trimmer.

Pic shows another place to use this. This hill goes straight down to walk. Without tilting mower, this interface would be 1" to 2" higher than the rest of the lawn.

Parkmaster, next time I visit my sister in LaPlata (they were 100' from the tornado) we have to do a dinner on me.