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jay12
01-03-2011, 10:05 PM
I have a customer who is already asking about overseeding in the spring due to the heat and dry weather we had in late 2010. Ideally I think we are looking at early March ( KY)? Is this about right. Also what about seed? Small percentage rye with larger kbg and fescue mixes, or a larger rye mix? I am willing to give it a shot, I just might need a little help. Looking to seed with a turf revitalizer. Can aerate if neccessary ahead of time. Of course I will follow with a starter fert. Any help appreciated

rbl525
01-04-2011, 12:42 AM
I am in Nebraska, and use Defiance XRE, a fescue blend, for almost all of my customers. I avoid Rye. And I only use KBG for customers that only want that. Wait for the ground temp to get close to 55 degrees. I do it in April up here, but every area is a little different.

RigglePLC
01-04-2011, 08:25 PM
Jay, I am thinking you are on the right track. http://www.usclimatedata.com/climate.php?location=USKY0756
Your climate appears to be Ok if you seed in late March. Soil may be too cold in early March. Try to seed it the week of your first mowing. This may be the origin of the problem. Per rye may not survive long at 90 degrees, however I think you are smart to include some perennial rye--customer is more likely to be satisfied. Fescue and blue are rather slow to cover the soil. RBL is right; try to get your customers to pay a little extra in advance and and get a top quality, dark green, disease resistant fescue. Try to get them to spring for the new lateral spread type. Less chance of needing a reseed job in the future. http://www.mtviewseeds.com/MVSLateralSpreadRelease.pdf

Pregerminating the seed is probably not suitable if you plant a mixture. Its fast though.
http://www.ehow.com/how_6498442_pre_germinate-grass-seed.html

Barefoot James
01-04-2011, 10:58 PM
In KY you should take advantage of the moist soil from winter - this primes the seed for germination as soon as the soil warms up it will grow. You should seed in FEB to early MARCH to take advantage of this. Also check out past threads on dormant seeding for more details. the germination rate is excellent and no watering required to get germination.

jay12
01-04-2011, 11:43 PM
Riggle, what are your advisements on the rye. Maybe 20% ? Also I will check on the lateral spread seed. Do they have a listed price sheet or do I just need to give them a call. I would like to try some, I've heard nothing but good things about it.

RigglePLC
01-05-2011, 12:35 PM
Jay, I don't know about the cost of lateral spread tall fescue. No personal experience--we seldom grow tall fescue in Michigan. Call them and they may refer you to a regional dealer that is closer to you. Be sure to ask for something that is drought resistant, also. And be sure to ask for a variety that is resistant to the main diseases in your area. (I am thinking brown patch.) If it doesn't say "resistant to brown patch" in the literature, it is susceptible. Spyder may work.
http://www.mtviewseeds.com/DATASHEETS/Spyder.pdf

Spring rains look to be adequate at about 4 inches for the month of March.
I meant to say that the previous lawn may have been mostly rye--and that is why it didn't survive last summer. That is always a risk if you include too much rye--it crowds out the fescue during the first month--result a mostly rye lawn.

rbl525
01-05-2011, 01:54 PM
Some lateral spread fescues. Keep an eye out for drought resistant too.

Defiance XRE
http://www.fescue.com/info/defiance-xre.html

Combat Extreme
http://www.outsidepride.com/seed/grass-seed/fescue-grass-seed/combat-extreme-fescue-grass-seed.html

Talk to your local turf store. Then look up the details of the seeds in the blend. I get the defiance xre here for about $1 / lb contractor price, and charge $2 / lb for application.