View Full Version : 6 cyl. enough?

01-06-2011, 06:14 PM
I have a 96 ford f150 xl, just starting out in the lawn biz, id be pulling a 6x10 trailer with a 36 wbh and a 52 ztr. the ford has a straight 6 only 2wd. also has a bumper hitch, I was thinking it would be wise to put a hitch connected to the frame on it. Is it strong enough to tow? good idea with the hitch or find a diff. truck? thanks

01-06-2011, 07:19 PM
I had a beater 91 dakota with the 3.9 and the long bed. It had 330k miles on it and looked horrible. But since I wasn't in any high end neighborhoods at the time it worked great being it was free. It pulled fine, even had hauled some downed trees in the bed. But on my 98 dakota did not have the beefy Steel bumper the 91 had and the wieght of the equipment was bending it. I would splurge for the hitch, I feel so much safer with the one on the 5.9 Ram I have now.

lawnboy dan
01-06-2011, 08:22 PM
how can you get a 52 ztr and a 36 wb on a 10 foot trailer?

Mow Man
01-06-2011, 08:23 PM
A little history with my f-150 w/ 4.9 straight 6

I have pulled a 18'dual axle flat bed w/ a full size farm tractor/bush hog for over a year a couple of times a week.

A couple of different landscape trailers completely loaded

A pressure cleaning rig w/ a 300 gal water tank

and on & on.........

As long as you dont beat it, take off slow and try not to keep up with all of the fancy new and huige trucks it is a perfect truck to get started with. Maybe a little bit of a gas pig, but......

Now for the year of my truck? An 87!!!!!!!!! it has 289,000 miles on it and it will always be my back up. There have been several times my newer trucks were broke down and old Nelly has earned her spot in the retirement country club!!! This truck has made me a BUNCH of money.

Be envious, but don't try and keep up with the jones's!

01-06-2011, 09:36 PM
the 300ci inline six is 2 cubic inches smaller than the 302 v8. Think about that, and in my opinion that engine is killer with a 5speed. I think it actually puts out more torque than the v8 302 as well. Keep the truck get a hitch and tow anything really.

01-06-2011, 10:57 PM
sounds good to me, thanks for the advice. i put the wbh on first and ztr follows. wbh is put sideways still have a foot or two leftover

01-07-2011, 02:11 AM
Keep the six. its a good motor and will pull fine. Just have to take it easy on riding the clutch and the truck will pull fine. I loved driving the one at work and we had car trailers behind it all the time.

01-07-2011, 02:45 AM
You have one of the most reliable motors ever built. Keep it!

01-07-2011, 02:51 AM
I had a 95 F-150 with that same engine, man that was a great truck.

Bought it new and sold it about 4-5 years ago, wish I still had it.

I pulled a 16' open trailer with it for years. It did fine with one ztr, when I added the second ztr it struggled a bit but it got the job done.

Put a hitch on it and put her to work!! :weightlifter:

01-07-2011, 12:32 PM
you should deffinitly get a frame mounted trailer hitch...other than that your good to go

01-09-2011, 04:54 PM
I've been pulling a 5x12 with 52" ZTR, 21", trimmers and blowers for three years with a 4cyl Nissan, so I think your good to go.

01-09-2011, 07:45 PM
That is a great engine you have in your truck. The inline design is great for towing and torque. I would get a frame hitch for it just to be safe. That way you dont have to worry about it. Keep up the maintenance on the truck and it will last you a long time. Good luck!! :waving:

01-09-2011, 11:48 PM
I run a 94 F150 with 4.9/auto pulling a 7x12 and 2 ztr's plus misc. A little slow, but I doubt that you get much chance for any speed in your town. My next step is a brake axle. My 93 Dakota 3.9 has been pushed by my 48" hopper on a 5x10.

01-11-2011, 08:29 PM
the motor has just about 180k.....how long will it last exactly?

01-11-2011, 09:14 PM
300+k if you take care of it. It's not uncommon to see those engines with that much on them.

DA Quality Lawn & YS
01-12-2011, 09:24 PM
6 cyl no problem. Get a frame mounted hitch though, shouldn't cost much.

I used a Ford escape pulling a 1k lb Z and a 21" mower with trimmers on a 5x8 trailer and it never had a problem whatsoever over 2 years.

01-13-2011, 12:43 PM
how can you get a 52 ztr and a 36 wb on a 10 foot trailer?

Easy, you turn the 36" sideways behind the ZTR. You have to put the chute up but it will fit.

01-13-2011, 06:49 PM
Im in the process of looking for a new truck. I currently have a 2000 ranger with a 3.0 v6 but it doesnt do so good pulling my new trailer. Im gonna be pulling about 3,300 pounds every day with it. I wonder how long the transmission is gonna last....

01-13-2011, 06:54 PM
if it's the automatic you have a 5r55e if it's the manual you have an m5od-r1 both of those transmissions are made to bolt up to the 5.0 v8 mustang/explorer engine. You won't hurt that tranny it's rated for towing almost 5k lbs.... the truck itself with that 3.0 Vulcan engine is a different story.

I know a **** load about rangers/explorers if you want to know anything just PM me.

01-13-2011, 10:12 PM
Yeah i have an automatic. Well i recently got the tranny fluid changed the the guy who did it said there were a lot of shavings in it so thats why im worried

01-14-2011, 12:41 AM
shavings are normal for any auto transmission, don't get it changed again for a long ass time.

01-14-2011, 12:26 PM
Oh ok. No im not getting it changed ever again. The truck had 67k on it when i bought it so i replace EVERYTHING because i thought i would be keeping the truck forever. But its up for sale now. Its just not big/strong enought for the setup i have now.

01-14-2011, 04:02 PM
I know that game, I used to tow 2k with a 2.3l ranger when I started out. Sold it and bought a 4.3l v6 f-150 for 1500$ and never looked back. I love this new truck.

01-14-2011, 10:43 PM
So what do you think you'll be replacing it with? I see some guys on here and on the street who tow with little compact trucks and honestly I don't know how they do it. Plus with the little bed size and the fact that they don't cost that much less or get that much better gas mileage than a half-ton...
Although some of the newer ones have more horsepower than my F150, haha.

I've also got an F150 with the 4.2 V6. The 4.2 had a bad hydrolock problem the first year it came out due to faulty gaskets, but that first year aside, it's a very reliable engine and basic tech which is a good thing IMO.

That being said, it was a great truck for me when all I did was hauling with it for several years, but if you're looking for a truck to tow with regularly, I say get a V8. The 4.2 will only net you an extra 1-2 mpgs and I would gladly sacrifice that for a little more power. I only tow about a 2.5k loaded trailer and while it does the job, it's not terribly happy about it. Once you get up to speed it's not bad, but off the line it kind of sucks. If your area is particularly hilly, forget it. It's mostly flat where I live, but there are several parts of the freeways out here that I use every week that are a pretty steep grade and it's not comfortable going faster than about 55 without flooring it which I won't do (trying to make her last).

I bought it with 15K miles on her and she's at 163K now. 0 trouble with the engine, trans went out at 150k. Other than that just basic maintenance.

Oh ok. No im not getting it changed ever again. The truck had 67k on it when i bought it so i replace EVERYTHING because i thought i would be keeping the truck forever. But its up for sale now. Its just not big/strong enought for the setup i have now.

01-14-2011, 11:13 PM
I used to work at the farmer's Co-op and I ran deliveries. We had this ugly old 83 F-250 with the inline 6 300 mated with a four speed with a granny low first gear. that thing was a hoss! I pulled a 16 10k lb trailer with it. NOt uncommon to have four or five tons of bagged feed on it. I'm a Chevy guy, but those motors are the stuff!

01-15-2011, 12:20 AM
Not the best picture in the world but here is my 6 cylinder Ford. Its a 1990 Ford F-250 that was converted to a dually with a 1 ton rear. Has an Omaha Standard 9.5 foot dump bed. Thats an 8x20 Pace Summit landscape trailer that is full most of the time with 4 mowers (60 inch diesel, 48 inch G3, 44 inch WB, and a 21 inch push). I wont win any races but I dont have too much trouble out here in the country. I can run highway speeds provided the headwind isnt too stiff.




01-15-2011, 11:04 AM
I have a 04 F-150 Heritage(same as 03)regular cab w/long bed. 4.2 V-6(5 speed) that I pull my 2.5K trailer with. I changed the diff and gears in the rear to a lower set to help it pull better. I also put SSB brakes on it all the way around(drilled and vented)cold air intake and exhaust. Everything together has helped it pulling the trailer. I would guess mpg is about 15-18 only on the open road.

01-15-2011, 01:01 PM
15-18 while towing?

01-15-2011, 01:07 PM
15-18 while towing?

LOL No way... I would guess 10mph

knox gsl
01-16-2011, 12:13 AM
Ford's inline six is the best gas engine they've ever put in a work truck. They have plenty of torq and last forever, just like the one that you could get in a Jeep. I don't understand why we can't get good work engines anymore, I have very little need to prove myself in a work truck by having fancy wheels and a 600hp black smoke diesel engine. There's just a feeling you get from an old stick shift on a straight six engine pulling a trailer loaded with mowers and letting the traffic pass you by that you can't get with these newer trucks, not to mention you can pass by the $500 a month truck payment to.

01-16-2011, 03:51 PM
LOL No way... I would guess 10mph

I was gonna say I'm struggling to get 16 MPG in the winter right now with the 4.2 in the summer I was pushing 19 though.