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nlminc
01-25-2011, 04:48 PM
How are these 6.4's holding up? I'm looking at diesels and have been told to stay away from the 6.0 from people who have them.
I know Ford has a 6.7 out this year, but a local dealer has an 08 F250 SC xlt 4x4 long bed with 44k miles for 28900.00...with the 6.4 diesel. Any thoughts?
Thanks

Barrett Landscaping
01-25-2011, 05:08 PM
any "new" diesels all have problems comparied to the past. personally, i would not touch any of them and neither will my mechanic

nlminc
01-25-2011, 07:14 PM
I like the 7.3, but find one with under 200k on it for a decent price in good shape. Most of the used by owner sales have high miles and the trucks are well abused.

MudslinginFX4
01-25-2011, 07:48 PM
Ive had 3 of the 6.4's. The first one had some problems, the last two have been flawless. One's getting ready to roll over 100,000 miles. I would by another one with no questions asked, only downside is fuel mileage. I'm averaging 11.5 on my 08 f-450 pickup.

Barrett Landscaping
01-25-2011, 07:51 PM
well its a 450 so what should you expect?

MudslinginFX4
01-25-2011, 07:56 PM
The new engines are supposed to be getting around 15-16 is what im hearing on the 450's. Not too worried about it because i wanted the truck, but from what i've heard the 250's arent getting good gas mileage either.

Gravel Rat
01-25-2011, 08:33 PM
The 6.4 is good if you eliminate the emmission stuff but then again that is illegal. Supposidly if you do eliminate the egr and regen crap the mileage goes up and so does the reliability.

Seen a few 6.7 trucks on the road they are very quiet haven't looked under the hood yet.

highdefdiesel
01-26-2011, 01:57 AM
I have a 2008 F-250 with the 6.4L and I love the way the truck looks but has been nothing but a pain in my a$$ since I bought it ... as of right now it has 215,000 miles on it and I havent driven it since Thanksgiving when the high pressure turbo went out on it and sucked the fins into the motor..... Have had two blown head gaskets had the head studs done and replaced the radiator three times. all ofcourse after 100,000 miles.

mezammit
01-26-2011, 08:35 AM
Yeah any new diesel seems to have its problems,
I have heard a lot more good from the new diesel engines. The 6.0 that ford put of seemed to be the worse but then again you hear guys saying that they haven't had a problem with them. The new 6.7 is a ford made engine where in previous years it was an international. Maybe ford was sick of all the previous problems and finally stepped up to the plate with something good this time.
I have been looking at purchasing a newer truck too so maybe we can both get some good feedback here.

nlminc
01-26-2011, 10:27 PM
I've been looking at the 06- 09s. There's a new 2011 F250 for $37.5k It's a super cab, xl with power options, 4x4..6.7 diesel and an 8' bed. Usually buy used but I'm wary of the 6.0-6.4's right now.

mowerbrad
01-26-2011, 10:52 PM
When I was truck shopping last year, I was dead set on buying a diesel...eventually I was convinced to buy a gas.

The best ford diesel was the 7.3. A guy near me is selling his 01 Ford 7.3 (loaded) with 299k on it for $11k. It seems like the older diesels really hold their value.

Now as far as the new diesels go, my mechanics really don't want much to do with them if they can help it. With all the emissions systems on the trucks, they have become much more difficult to work on.

From what I have heard and been told, Ford has been hit and miss with their diesels since they came out with the 6.0. Some guys love their Ford diesels and others have had nothing but problems.

It seems to me right now that if you want a diesel, GM is probably the way to go...at least until Ford "nails" their diesels again.

SNAPPER MAN
01-26-2011, 11:39 PM
I have a 2009 f250 with the 6.4l psd and love the truck. The only downside is the absolutely terrible mileage. Averages 11mpg and has a trailer behind it five days a week.
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mezammit
01-27-2011, 07:28 AM
nlminc,
A 2011 with the new 6.7 and 4x4 for 37.5k. Seems like one heck of a deal to me. I priced out a 2011 f-350 single cab 4x4 with the diesel and it was over 40k. Seems like a good deal to me.

Mowerbrad I cant agree more not many mechanics I know would work on the new diesels either. You open the hood and cant even see the engine so much emission B.S. it is sick. And with the new diesel engines there is a separate reservoir for urea. Every 6k miles you have to fill it up. Just something else to go wrong.
The one thing that I absolutely love about the new trucks is the amount of torque they are putting out Ford, Chevy, Dodge they have at least 600 lb ft. I don't own one put have driven the 6.4 and man all that power is nice pulling a trailer.

POPO4995
01-27-2011, 08:08 AM
I wouldnt buy a 6.0, 6.4's are good but like fuel. 7.3's are bulletproof, and i think Ford got it this time with the 6.7. Good mileage, awesome power, and who knows what will come out for the motor next.

meets1
01-27-2011, 08:21 AM
hate to burst the buddle here and I no he asked about ford - check with D-max or get a cummins. A mans gotta have options.

GravelyGuy
01-27-2011, 09:29 AM
If you are going the 6.4 route. I would buy on with around 100K on it so that you are already out of warranty and you don't have to worry about voiding your warranty when you delete the DPF.

In short, I wouldn't be scared to buy one.

nlminc
01-27-2011, 03:10 PM
[QUOTE=mezammit;3871726]nlminc,
A 2011 with the new 6.7 and 4x4 for 37.5k. Seems like one heck of a deal to me. I priced out a 2011 f-350 single cab 4x4 with the diesel and it was over 40k. Seems like a good deal to me.

Yes, I know it's a good deal. That's with the Ford rebates included. I'm just torn between that one and the 08 with the 6.4 with 46k miles for $28900..asking price. Basically the same truck but the 08 is an xlt.

This won't be my daily driver since I own a toyota landcruiser. The truck will be used for work and that's about it.

meets1
01-27-2011, 04:09 PM
That's awesome! Toytota mentioned in the above thread. My wife and I bought a new 11 sequioa platium. Awesome vehicle! Ok back to the ford discussion!
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brianslawncare
01-27-2011, 04:31 PM
i have been looking at used diesels and their is some good deals on the 6.0s. i found a 05 250 xcab 4x4 6.0 with 120,000 miles for 12,500. i also found a 01 250 xcab 4x4 7.3 with 230,000 miles for 9500. everyone says the 6.0s are junk andthe 7.3s are bulletproof and the best ford ever made. im not sure what to buy, im a little scared of the miles. i might just end up getting a gas engine.

dirtybiz
01-28-2011, 05:39 PM
DO NOT BUY A 6.0, and this is coming from a die hard ford guy. The 6.0's are absolute junk. I had an 03 when they first came out, and only ran for 40k, and traded it off. Went through 3 sets of injectors amongst other things. The thing was always in the shop. My dad had an 04, and now has a 06. His 04 was just as bad as my 03. He had good luck with his 06 until about 90k, since then it has been one thing after another, and i bet he has 15k into it since then!!! He has been through at least 5-6 sets of injectors, head studs, turbo, etc.... the list just gos on and on. I can't even remember all the stuff he has had to do.

Now, as far as the 6.4L, i would buy one, but not a high mileage truck. Diesels are VERY EXPENSIVE to work on, and you never know how it was taken care of. Personally i have a 6.4l with dpf delete, etc. and it has been good (knock on wood). However, with that said i will not drive it a day past my 100k warranty. I have seen a couple of 6.4l disasters too, but they were high mileage and not maintained properly. Maintaining the fuel filters/system is the biggest thing on these.

My dad just bought a new 6.7L cummins (has never owned anything but fords), because it is much less complex than the new gm or fords and they don't have the urea injection either. Time will tell how that pans out, i know they had tons of problems with them when the first came out, but i beleive they have been worked out by now.

Your best bet is to try and find a low mileage 7.3L (if you can), but be prepared to pay for it! I just blue booked my 2003 w/7.3 w/110k and it booked for over 20k. Yet my dad was only offered 14k for trade on his 06 6.0!! I will probably never get rid of my 7.3L PSD or my 5.9 CTD as diesels are getting way to complex and expensive to work on.

If you really like the fords, and don't necessarily need the torque of the diesel look for a V10, they have been very reliable and get decent mileage. Not to mention they are a heck of alot cheaper!

juststartin
01-29-2011, 05:17 PM
I bought an 07 duramax work truck reg cab with 55k miles for 14k. No way I would pay 30k for a work truck. Seems kind of stupid. Why not go for a shorter ROI?

Champion-Lawn
01-30-2011, 01:06 PM
Had an 03 F250 6.4L with around 130k on it, ended up having a cracked head $4,000 that was with proper maintenance and never overheating. The towing power of the ford was lacking compared to the 2500 dodge turbo diesel. After this expensive lesson and talking to everyone I could it was very clear the 7.3L was the way to go with the Fords, but I would only buy the Dodge at this point.

nlminc
01-30-2011, 07:39 PM
I bought an 07 duramax work truck reg cab with 55k miles for 14k. No way I would pay 30k for a work truck. Seems kind of stupid. Why not go for a shorter ROI?

I am going for a ROI. Looking around on Saturday at a few 7.3's and I found myself a 1985 F250 4x4 long bed in fantastic condition. The interior is like new. The paint faded and needs some work due to it's age. A man in his 70's owned it since new. 62k original miles. It's got a 460 big block and on the highway at 75 mph this truck ran smooth and straight.

I've been looking for this truck for a while because I love the 81-86 body style. I wasn't intending to work it but....this will be perfect for work and cost a hell of a lot less.

You got a sweet deal on the Duramax. I've been looking for a few months but there's nothing in that price range in 4x4 long bed with that kind of miles as of now.

juststartin
01-30-2011, 08:36 PM
I am going for a ROI. Looking around on Saturday at a few 7.3's and I found myself a 1985 F250 4x4 long bed in fantastic condition. The interior is like new. The paint faded and needs some work due to it's age. A man in his 70's owned it since new. 62k original miles. It's got a 460 big block and on the highway at 75 mph this truck ran smooth and straight.

I've been looking for this truck for a while because I love the 81-86 body style. I wasn't intending to work it but....this will be perfect for work and cost a hell of a lot less.

You got a sweet deal on the Duramax. I've been looking for a few months but there's nothing in that price range in 4x4 long bed with that kind of miles as of now.

Yeah I had been looking for a truck for several months for my irrigation tech. I had an 03 Ford F-250 before with a 6.0, but one of guys totaled it. The 6.0 just made me nervous. I didn't have any problems but it was very difficult to start when cold and white smoked when it cranked up. I don't think I would trust a ford after 03. And I think a truck older than 03 might nickel and dime you to death.

You are not wary of an older truck? I guess if you have time to tinker it might be ok. Definately easier on your wallet initially.

nlminc
01-31-2011, 09:23 AM
Yeah I had been looking for a truck for several months for my irrigation tech. I had an 03 Ford F-250 before with a 6.0, but one of guys totaled it. The 6.0 just made me nervous. I didn't have any problems but it was very difficult to start when cold and white smoked when it cranked up. I don't think I would trust a ford after 03. And I think a truck older than 03 might nickel and dime you to death.

You are not wary of an older truck? I guess if you have time to tinker it might be ok. Definitely easier on your wallet initially.

I'm not concerned with dumping money into the 1985. It's in excellent condition and probably in better shape than most of the newer models for sale locally. It's got plenty of power and it's easy to work on if anything needs attention. I'm sure I'll be able to watch the fuel needle move south as I'm driving it! Probably only gets 8mpg. It won't be used full time or traveling long distance for work so I let that negative aspect slide.

I'm still keeping my eyes open for a newer truck. If the right deal comes along I pick one up.

nlminc
02-04-2011, 11:40 PM
Well, I ended up going for a 2005 Chevy 3500 LT 4x4 CC with the Duramax and 8' bed. I'll pick the older ford up in a few weeks if it's still around. The Chevy was a nice deal so I went that route. I'll give the new Ford diesels a few more years and maybe go back.

juststartin
02-05-2011, 09:04 AM
Sound like a nice truck. How many miles and how much?

nlminc
02-05-2011, 07:32 PM
It's got 95k miles on it and I picked it up for 20k.

The local owner had the truck serviced on a reg basis at a local GM dealer. That's a nice thing about carfax, it shows the maintenance and work done to the veh if it was brought into a dealership. My last crew cab 4x4 diesel long bed was a 97 powerstroke. I only sold it because someone offered me more than what I had paid for it 3 yrs earlier!

swanny
02-06-2011, 09:39 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230582255311&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123#section-vehicle-glossary

fleet vehicle, frame damage reported in history report.

Suspiciously low mileage.

Cool truck though.

TopNotchLawnCare
02-07-2011, 01:35 AM
I had my eye on a 03 Ford F350 6.0 regular cab with 83,000 miles for $10,000 and after reading this thread and hearing all the problems people have been having, I'm staying far away from any new Ford trucks.

I'll probably go with a Dodge. Maybe check out the Chevy's.

AVLC
02-18-2011, 06:27 PM
All of the 6.o fords are cheap and seem like a good deal compared to everything else. That's because no sane person would buy one with all the other reliable options out there.

ProTouch Groundscapes
02-18-2011, 08:43 PM
guess im crazy then...

stuvecorp
02-19-2011, 12:22 AM
All of the 6.o fords are cheap and seem like a good deal compared to everything else. That's because no sane person would buy one with all the other reliable options out there.

:rolleyes: I would much rather have the 7.3 but you will have a better time finding a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow than a low mileage and not beat 7.3. I think the Ford chassis is best option out there.

The 6.0 is okay and has been fine in my 550, the late model ones are much better. Also you go after the 07's and then there is more emissions stuff which I don't care for.

swanny
02-20-2011, 10:35 PM
:rolleyes: I would much rather have the 7.3 but you will have a better time finding a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow than a low mileage and not beat 7.3. I think the Ford chassis is best option out there.

The 6.0 is okay and has been fine in my 550, the late model ones are much better. Also you go after the 07's and then there is more emissions stuff which I don't care for.

nice: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-FORD-F-350-4X4-7-3L-POWER-STROKE-DIESEL-DUMP-80-K-/220741461144?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3365376498

stuvecorp
02-20-2011, 11:44 PM
nice: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-FORD-F-350-4X4-7-3L-POWER-STROKE-DIESEL-DUMP-80-K-/220741461144?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3365376498

Not too bad, wonder how high it will go for? I don't like the box though, and it's just a 350. There was a 7.3 cab chassis on Truckpaper I think and it was ridiculous high, I think in the twenties? Will have to find it. Everyone gave me so much crap what I wanted for the 550 but look at the newer truck costs?

lawn king
02-21-2011, 10:10 PM
I had a 7.3 in my f 350, went from that to an 08 3500 duramax /allison. Go duramax!

Capemay Eagle
02-23-2011, 09:46 PM
I had a 7.3 in my f 350, went from that to an 08 3500 duramax /allison. Go duramax! My friend did the same thing and I have never seen a bigger piece of crap in my life, I have never seen a truck with more major problems in my life!

hensley
05-29-2011, 04:11 AM
Just for everyone: I have a 2011 6.7L F250 king ranch, (had an 08 6.4L) the fuel milage rumors are true, the first 6500mi I averaged 16.6mpg daily drive/hwy (figured by hand with fuel recipts) No Sh*&! My 08 got 11mpg Everyday! Now I have 26570mi on it, and the fuel is getting better and better, January trip to New Mexico averaged 17.4 on a 1100 mile trip (Granted most was flat west texas driving). The only thing Im concernd with is stopping the load, I say that because it will pull whatever you put back there. MAKE SURE YOUR TRAILER BRAKES WORK. I pull a 28ft 5 horse trailer, loaded to the gills I got 11.8mpg on a trip to Bentonville Arkansas. The price tag is high, but there is alot of truck.

nepatsfan
05-29-2011, 06:46 AM
Had an 03 F250 6.4L with around 130k on it, ended up having a cracked head $4,000 that was with proper maintenance and never overheating. The towing power of the ford was lacking compared to the 2500 dodge turbo diesel. After this expensive lesson and talking to everyone I could it was very clear the 7.3L was the way to go with the Fords, but I would only buy the Dodge at this point.

Im calling BS on this one. How did you get a 6.4 in 03?

Coastal Lawn Maintenance
05-29-2011, 03:28 PM
Im calling BS on this one. How did you get a 6.4 in 03?

That was a special buy. :hammerhead:

ProTouch Groundscapes
05-30-2011, 08:09 AM
I wish I did my dpf delete and tuner as soon as I drove my 09 off the lot. Im getting MUCH better mileage, better driveability, cooler trans temps and now its more reliable. In short, I now love my 6.4 where before I liked it but there were a few issues I had to live with.

and for 6.0's, look for an 06 or 07. Our 6.0 has had less problems than our chevy HD with the 6.0 (i know gas vs. diesel) It now has egr delete, studs and a full buildup along with a tuner. I would consider an egr blocker or delete as vital when you get a 6.0. That will solve about 75% of the problems of the truck.

In short, I too had a disliking of powerstrokes, but after reading and gaining knowledge on the subject, not just spitting out heresay from others, I'm glad I went this route.