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abrightday
01-27-2011, 05:43 PM
First live chinch of the season found at a new survey today! :dizzy: Dang they are at it already,, thought we might be able to wait till March anyway,,, with all the recent freezes,, but that what keeps us in the business! Found Adults, teenagers and children,,full blown family cycles,, Sold it,, they had Tru-green,,
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Landscape Poet
01-27-2011, 09:00 PM
First live chinch of the season found at a new survey today! :dizzy: Dang they are at it already,, thought we might be able to wait till March anyway,,, with all the recent freezes,, but that what keeps us in the business! Found Adults, teenagers and children,,full blown family cycles,, Sold it,, they had Tru-green,,
www.YourLandscapePro.com

Although I think most people do not think about them this time of year it does not surprise me to much. I have always been told they can be active in moderately warm conditions.

The whole freeze theory I never bought into 100% no harder than our freezes really are here in Central FL. People act like we are up north and the ground is freezing 6 inches deep. My guess would be this little guys just dig a little deeper into the thatch and hang out. Is that what you think?

abrightday
01-27-2011, 09:35 PM
Yup, that's exactly what they do. I've seen it before,,just posting to remind everyone Florida is different from the rest of the country,,yea!

Landscape Poet
01-27-2011, 10:01 PM
Yup, that's exactly what they do. I've seen it before,,just posting to remind everyone Florida is different from the rest of the country,,yea!


Do other areas of the country that do have chinch bugs and SA experience the same kind of infestations that we do? I mean are they as prevalent of a problem as they are here?

sweetz
01-28-2011, 03:51 AM
First live chinch of the season found at a new survey today! :dizzy: Dang they are at it already,, thought we might be able to wait till March anyway,,, with all the recent freezes,, but that what keeps us in the business! Found Adults, teenagers and children,,full blown family cycles,, Sold it,, they had Tru-green,,
www.YourLandscapePro.com

As I've pressure washed different places in the last few months, I've seen a couple of them running across wet areas trying to find dry ground.

Ric
01-28-2011, 11:07 AM
Do other areas of the country that do have chinch bugs and SA experience the same kind of infestations that we do? I mean are they as prevalent of a problem as they are here?

Michael

Yep they are every where you find S A Turf. They are pretty much a one Variety pest.

Landscape Poet
01-28-2011, 07:19 PM
Michael

Yep they are every where you find S A Turf. They are pretty much a one Variety pest.

Ric, I thought I remember reading or hearing some folks talk about chinch bugs on corn too. I would assume their effects would be the same on corn too? Do you know about the chinch bug and how they affect corn? And with the high cost of the chemicals to combat them just on lawns, is the cost as high on these crops? I know your guys cost is cheaper for what you do than what I do for my own lawn - but it seems like a fortune for no more than the sq footage it is.

Landscape Poet
01-28-2011, 07:38 PM
Ric or abrightday, I thought I had posted this question but I guess it did not take.

Here is my issue with illegals and the State. If they really do want to put a stop to illegal operators why do they not require you to have a license on file to purchase the products? Would that not be a cost effective way to solve this problem? I am even talking round up, well at least in the professional size volume for us "lawn boys". Wouldnt make to much sense to purchase the RTU at the cost of it.

So why not do this?

Buck_wheat
01-30-2011, 09:52 AM
cinch bug and now mole crickets; seen them as far South as Ft. Lauderdale to Lake Worth on the North end; east of 95... gonna be a tough year.

Ric
01-30-2011, 12:37 PM
Ric or abrightday, I thought I had posted this question but I guess it did not take.

Here is my issue with illegals and the State. If they really do want to put a stop to illegal operators why do they not require you to have a license on file to purchase the products? Would that not be a cost effective way to solve this problem? I am even talking round up, well at least in the professional size volume for us "lawn boys". Wouldnt make to much sense to purchase the RTU at the cost of it.

So why not do this?

Michael

First I googled Pests of Corn and learned chinch bugs effects corn. I guess that shouldn't be a surprise since Corn and many other grains are Grasses with big seed heads. When looking at the total grass family it is the most economical important plant in the world.

As for your above question, you Don't understand politics. To cut Wally World and Home Cheapo out of selling chemicals would take more than an act of congress. Illegal applicators like yourself would still be able to get some chemicals. I am willing to bet I could find some RUP for sale on E bay today. When Temidor required a special cert to purchase it was on E bay to any one all day long and in some cases cheaper than my supplier. I have seen E bay advertise quarts of Asulox when in fact it only legally comes in 2.5 gallon jugs. If I could legally repackage Pesticide in smaller containers Myself and a couple hundred people would be in the DIY pest control supply business making a fortune.



Buck Wheat

I am hoping with Dominion so cheap now I can pound my yards with a effective and safe insecticide that won't hurt the environment. At a Dollar a thousand to get resistant Chinch bug is not a big price and I get my grubs at the same time. I am planning to get out of L & O and more into GHP work in the next year or so. I do have a plan working towards that goal. So my bottom line is after next year I won't be worried about chinch bugs

Landscape Poet
01-30-2011, 01:40 PM
Ric, I thinking your memory must be going in your old age, were would you get thatI am applying anything illegally? I have my limited and my fertilizer license. That is what I do, and since last year when I partnered up with my CPO I do even less fert because unless the customer just wants one or two ferts a year it doesn't make finacial sense for me to even do that.
In regards to cutting wally world or any of them out by putting restrictions I really do not think that would be that big of a issue. Other products such as firearms, big pharma, cool labeling etc in food. So why would this impair them in any other way?
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Ric
01-30-2011, 02:35 PM
Ric, I thinking your memory must be going in your old age, were would you get thatI am applying anything illegally? I have my limited and my fertilizer license. That is what I do, and since last year when I partnered up with my CPO I do even less fert because unless the customer just wants one or two ferts a year it doesn't make finacial sense for me to even do that.
In regards to cutting wally world or any of them out by putting restrictions I really do not think that would be that big of a issue. Other products such as firearms, big pharma, cool labeling etc in food. So why would this impair them in any other way?
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Michael

I had to look at your profile to check if you weren't a High School kid after reading the above. First You know and I know from the questions you ask about weed control in St Augustine who is applying illegally. Hello you said it, I am old and maybe that is why I caught you.

Second My saying Wally World was meaning all retail outlets that sell chemicals. Maybe Wally World wouldn't care but all the chemical manufacture who supply retail out lets would. Whether you know it or not these large fertilizer companies are hurting and the Retail sales account for a nice proposition of their bottom line. This is an other case of the God Almighty Dollar being more important than the environment. I hope this clears this matter up. As much as we want to see more regulation to help us. Be Careful with what you wish for, You may get it.

Landscape Poet
01-30-2011, 04:22 PM
Michael
. First You know and I know from the questions you ask about weed control in St Augustine who is applying illegally. Hello you said it, I am old and maybe that is why I caught you.
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Ric, I know with your ego it would be hard for you to grasp the fact that you are wrong, but maybe there is hope.
Did it ever occur to you that if I do ask question, it maybe because I just want to know? Did it ever occur to you that the reason I only ever ask questions about SA is because I have a SA lawn? I know hard to believe such things isn't it ric?
I know it is pretty hard for you to get your mind around the fact that someone, especially a "yard boy" as like to refer to those not in your profession,might just want to improve their knowledge.

Ric, does it ever occur to you that people may just ask questions because they want to know? Did it ever occur to you that NOT everyone on this forum is applying illegaly, even though it seems like you are more frequently accusing them of it?

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Now back the part about the chemical companies needing the money, I am sure that is accurate, but did the firearms and drug companies not have need the money? )Yet you still must wait during waiting periods, in certain states you must obtain a certification like a void card to obtain a firearm or ammo.

Like I said it seems like it would be a simple solution.
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Ric
01-30-2011, 04:42 PM
Michael

Maybe you as well as others should get this fact Straight. I AM A YARD BOY ALSO and never said I wasn't. I am a Professional Yard Boy with Credentials, Degrees and Certifications but People outside the industry still look at me the same as just an other no count Yard Boy. Now those who are true businessmen really don't care that they are called Yard Boys. They still take the money to the bank. Now for the sake of argument, You don't apply illegally everyday.

Landscape Poet
01-30-2011, 05:05 PM
Michael

Maybe you as well as others should get this fact Straight. I AM A YARD BOY ALSO and never said I wasn't. I am a Professional Yard Boy with Credentials, Degrees and Certifications but People outside the industry still look at me the same as just an other no count Yard Boy. Now those who are true businessmen really don't care that they are called Yard Boys. They still take the money to the bank. Now for the sake of argument, You don't apply illegally everyday.

Ric, I would agree with you in terms of the Yard Boy comment. I could care less, in fact I often let that perception work for me. It comes in handy when negotiating on something. My issue with the term is the way that you use it, or at least my perception of the way you use it, as it often seems to me that you use in when you are trying talk down to someone, maybe that is just my perception though. Either way - I agree with you, I could care less what people call me, although the term Gardner does strike my nerve for some reason.

In terms of applying illegally everyday - again - think what you will Ric - but I have not applied anything to anyones lawn illegally since I learned that it was illegal to do so. The closest I have come to doing so is applying for a couple of little old ladies the product they have purchased from a store ........and that is from the kindness of my heart and not for a profit and not a part of my business model. And I do assist my neighbor to my left a couple times a year, again not for a profit but rather because he is my neighbor, is a nice guy, and his lawns issues suddenly become my issues if not addressed.
Becoming a CPO is a option that I am currently weighing however and even then I do not think it will be a stand alone business for me but rather integrated to my current business.
But Ric, I tell you what - you can keep saying I do if it makes you feel better and you can call me yard boy all day because at the end of the day I know the truth and I bet you are starting to understand it too!