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pseudosun
02-09-2011, 06:13 PM
I've been trying to find the name of this shrub. I searched for waxy leaf shrubs, and the only thing close was ligustrum. That's not it. I wanted to grow some of these by seed maybe. Thanks in advance if you know what it is.

P.S. The picture was taken while it was raining, so it's normally not that shiny.

http://pseudosun.smugmug.com/photos/1182770894_se4za-L.jpg

AI Inc
02-09-2011, 06:15 PM
Looks a lot like a Mt Laurel ( rotodemdrum family)

pseudosun
02-09-2011, 06:16 PM
i'll go get a full shot of it right now. If it helps, i'm in louisiana.

AI Inc
02-09-2011, 06:18 PM
oh , ok . Mt Laurel is more of a northern shrub if Im not mistaken.

pseudosun
02-09-2011, 06:22 PM
http://pseudosun.smugmug.com/photos/1182777651_H28tm-L.jpg

http://pseudosun.smugmug.com/photos/1182777721_sVNKM-L.jpg

jkingrph
02-09-2011, 06:34 PM
I'm not certain, but I think in this part of the country we call it a cherry laural.

StihlMechanic
02-09-2011, 06:44 PM
You will have more success taking a cutting to propagate this shrub using rooting hormone as opposed to seed.

pseudosun
02-09-2011, 06:50 PM
Okay, i'll consider that. It's my landlord's bush, and i've seen better ones around town. I'm just curious about the name. The seeds are black, and i picked a bunch from a better looking bush today. http://pseudosun.smugmug.com/photos/1182795905_oriCW-S.jpg

Since this an evergreen bush, what would be the best time to get a cutting?; just whenever i see new growth, or is there a premium time? Also, how long, about 6"?

AI Inc
02-09-2011, 06:59 PM
OK, definatly not a MT laurel.

pseudosun
02-09-2011, 07:02 PM
i think laurel is on the right track, just saw some with black seeds, but not quite the color or leaf shape. It could vary depending on location? Cherry laurel was pretty close, but the leaves looked a little long and skinny.

AuburnHort2005
02-09-2011, 07:05 PM
looks like a sunlight deprived Japanese Cleyera aka Ternstroemia gymnanthera

pseudosun
02-09-2011, 07:18 PM
that is real close and may be it >> http://www.magnoliagardensnursery.com/productdescrip/Ternstroemia_Cleyera.html

StihlMechanic
02-09-2011, 08:54 PM
that is real close and may be it >> http://www.magnoliagardensnursery.com/productdescrip/Ternstroemia_Cleyera.html

Looks like it to me. You want to cut new growth just below a leaf, 6 inches is perfect. Apply rooting hormone to the cut and plant in peat moss . I do my cuttings indoors under a heatlamp so I can do them year round. I am doing some plum trees, jap maples, sweetgum trees, and red tipped photinia's right now. Great way to save money on plants but requires alot of patience.

Turf Dawg
02-09-2011, 08:56 PM
looks like a sunlight deprived Japanese Cleyera aka Ternstroemia gymnanthera

I agree 110%. The Cleyera and some of the Dwarf Nandinas [gulf stream, moonbay, firepower] all seem to be the same around here. They are either full and dense looking great or thin and stemmy looking bad. Seems like there is no in-between.

zturncutter
02-09-2011, 09:02 PM
Rhaphiolepis indica
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Hawthorn
My guess.

mslawn
02-09-2011, 09:09 PM
I've been trying to find the name of this shrub. I searched for waxy leaf shrubs, and the only thing close was ligustrum. That's not it. I wanted to grow some of these by seed maybe. Thanks in advance if you know what it is.

P.S. The picture was taken while it was raining, so it's normally not that shiny.

http://pseudosun.smugmug.com/photos/1182770894_se4za-L.jpg

Indian Hawthorn.

zturncutter
02-09-2011, 09:37 PM
"I wanted to grow some of these by seed maybe. Thanks in advance if you know what it is."

I have grown thousands of these by seed over the years, they germinate very easily. Put three to five seeds per pot for a more dense plant.

backors
02-09-2011, 09:43 PM
This is Cherry Laurel. Be careful with those seeds. When crushed they become cyanide and are extremely toxic.

AuburnHort2005
02-09-2011, 09:47 PM
It is Indian Hawthorn. Does the underside of the leaf have distinct veination? That is a major indentifier for it.

zturncutter
02-09-2011, 09:51 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_laurel

NOT.

zturncutter
02-09-2011, 09:54 PM
It's definitely Indian Hawthorn, it gets leggy like that in shaddy locations and more dense in full sun. It can also be trained into a Standard form, (small tree.) The flowers can also be white and not pink.

mslawn
02-09-2011, 09:55 PM
It is a Indian hawthorn, here is a pic with its berries. Cherry Laurel is second pic.

msanb10000
02-09-2011, 10:07 PM
Maybe Indian Hawthorne?

Turf Dawg
02-10-2011, 12:57 AM
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.supersodtrees.com/buyn/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/c/l/cleyera_5.jpg&imgrefurl=http://supersodtrees.com/cleyera/cleyera-japonica&h=533&w=400&sz=69&tbnid=6KKtaAHolTnQGM:&tbnh=132&tbnw=99&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcleyera%2Bshrub&zoom=1&q=cleyera+shrub&usg=__Yb7OQOou8TYXFjDA2qUtMcnwjBY=&sa=X&ei=GlZTTd2pII-UtweYgOn7CQ&ved=0CCcQ9QEwBQOk, I hate trying to identify plants by pics. I would like to retract my 110% statement and go with like a 80% for Clyera and 20% with Indian Hawthorn. The way the leaves are grouped on the end of the branches still leads me to believe it is a Clyera. The berries you showed would lead me to beleive it is a Hawthorn, altough I think you stated that you got the berries from another plant.

Here in a month or so we will all know what it is because if it blooms it will be a Indian Hawthorn and if it just puts on some redish colored new growth it will be the Clyera. Look at the branch ends of this Clyera and maybe you can Identify it before then.

pseudosun
02-10-2011, 05:54 AM
the berries are the same, but at a quick glance i only saw one berry on this bush; i guess that means it's not healthy? Appreciate the info. Somebody actually told me about hawthorne a while back, and i forgot about it. I may follow up with pics in a month.