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RSMProperty
02-22-2011, 03:53 PM
wel i went out and measured all the beds for decorative stone (what was already there) and for mulch (also what was there) all the beds looked like ****, like they hadnt been mulched at all the previous year. none of the jobs looked ridiculous as i walked through them, and measured, but i got done doing the mulch bids and im at $8000 for around 150 yards of mulch, but man looking at jobs ive done before seems like im way off but ive done all my math twice and i even remeasured some beds...this is just for mulch, no stone at all

im thinking theyre gonna have 12000 in stone....once again looks like it hasnt been done, lots of crap in all the beds, etc.

but looking at the requirements of the bank, i would imagine the previous property maintenance company was fired, if not, they shouldvhave been.


im bidding it at 3 inches because so many of the beds look like they all need redone from scratch

i'm a 1 man show except for when i mulch, then its me and 2 friends

TurnerLawn&Landscape
02-23-2011, 05:45 PM
just for the mulch alone i would be at $6000
labor to spread mulch $5000

$11000 seems high but roughly $4000 goes right to uncle sam

Self_Paid1
02-24-2011, 12:37 PM
You are right 40 a yard of mulch.

PROCUT1
02-24-2011, 01:13 PM
just for the mulch alone i would be at $6000
labor to spread mulch $5000

$11000 seems high but roughly $4000 goes right to uncle sam

How does 4000 go to uncle sam?

TurnerLawn&Landscape
02-24-2011, 07:49 PM
my income tax in the state of kentucky overall came to about 38% after federal, state, county and city.

PROCUT1
02-24-2011, 08:26 PM
my income tax in the state of kentucky overall came to about 38% after federal, state, county and city.

What does income tax have to do with bidding a job?

Im still missing how $4000 of his bid will go to tax

TurnerLawn&Landscape
02-24-2011, 08:30 PM
Sorry, if he is only charging $8000 then ($8000 x .4)= $3200 of income tax on a check that he deposits for $8000.

THEGOLDPRO
02-24-2011, 08:44 PM
wel i went out and measured all the beds for decorative stone (what was already there) and for mulch (also what was there) all the beds looked like ****, like they hadnt been mulched at all the previous year. none of the jobs looked ridiculous as i walked through them, and measured, but i got done doing the mulch bids and im at $8000 for around 150 yards of mulch, but man looking at jobs ive done before seems like im way off but ive done all my math twice and i even remeasured some beds...this is just for mulch, no stone at all

im thinking theyre gonna have 12000 in stone....once again looks like it hasnt been done, lots of crap in all the beds, etc.

but looking at the requirements of the bank, i would imagine the previous property maintenance company was fired, if not, they shouldvhave been.


im bidding it at 3 inches because so many of the beds look like they all need redone from scratch

i'm a 1 man show except for when i mulch, then its me and 2 friends

are you talking 8k for the mulch and labor included or just for the cost of mulch?? my labor alone for 150 yards of mulch would be 9k not including the cost of the mulch.

PROCUT1
02-24-2011, 08:45 PM
Sorry, if he is only charging $8000 then ($8000 x .4)= $3200 of income tax on a check that he deposits for $8000.

Are you joking or do you really not have a clue how income tax works?>

THEGOLDPRO
02-24-2011, 11:30 PM
Are you joking or do you really not have a clue how income tax works?>

It sure sounds like he has no clue lol, lets leave him alone he's from KY....

GainesvilleLawnscaping
02-24-2011, 11:30 PM
Sorry, if he is only charging $8000 then ($8000 x .4)= $3200 of income tax on a check that he deposits for $8000.

Wow. That's really bad. You don't pay taxes on your sales, you pay it on your profits.

Cajun Cleanin'
02-24-2011, 11:41 PM
[QUOTE=TurnerLawn&Landscape;3908893]just for the mulch alone i would be at $6000
labor to spread mulch $5000

$11000 seems high but roughly $4000 goes right to uncle sam[/QUOT

What?

PROCUT1
02-25-2011, 10:46 AM
Little too much time with the talk radio i think

GSPHUNTER
02-25-2011, 12:52 PM
I wouldn't bid it at 3 inches. If you are spreading bulk, the mulch yards around here always give you more than what you pay for. Not a ton more, but the loader buckets are almost always mounded. This leaves you some wiggle room.

If you do bid it at 3" explain why and that if other companies come in cheaper to ask how thick they are spreading it. It's real easy to come in cheap on mulch prices by bidding them at 1" and when all bids are sitting next to each other often times they don't have the depth quoted. When the work is done it will be apparent why there was a price difference, but often times property owners don't take this into account when looking through bids.

If you know why the bank is shopping, this makes the decision much easier. If it's price, then they probably aren't looking for quality. If it's that their landscaping looks like crap, then they should understand why you may come in higher if you explain it.

TurnerLawn&Landscape
02-25-2011, 04:15 PM
sorry about my posts last night...i had been at the bar for a bit.

I know how income tax works.....Revenues-expenses=net income(which is what you pay your taxes on) And expenses per job are obviously going to vary from company to company. Each will have different costs depending on their insurance costs, workmans comp, truck payments, etc. It sounds like the guys that help him he pays under the table so he cant claim that labor as an expense (unless they agree to a 1099) That being said for 150 yards of mulch this is what I would quote:

Mulch-$9000
Labor-$7500

J.R. Services
02-25-2011, 11:07 PM
sorry about my posts last night...i had been at the bar for a bit.

I know how income tax works.....Revenues-expenses=net income(which is what you pay your taxes on) And expenses per job are obviously going to vary from company to company. Each will have different costs depending on their insurance costs, workmans comp, truck payments, etc. It sounds like the guys that help him he pays under the table so he cant claim that labor as an expense (unless they agree to a 1099) That being said for 150 yards of mulch this is what I would quote:

Mulch-$9000
Labor-$7500

How much are you paying for mulch?:hammerhead: