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alexschultz1
02-28-2011, 10:17 AM
what do you guys charge for a yearly fert contract on Bermuda for each 1000 sq feet. My schedule is as follows:

feb 1st- 0-0-7 stonewall
march 15th- 25-0-10 30% ppscu n + dimension
may 1st- 32-5-7 50% ppscu n
june 15th- 24-2-11 40% ppscu +6% FE
august 1st- 24-2-11 40% ppscu +6% FE
september 15th- 10-0-20 50% ppscu n + dimension
november 1st- lime

CLS LLC
02-28-2011, 10:28 AM
what do you guys charge for a yearly fert contract on Bermuda for each 1000 sq feet. My schedule is as follows:

feb 1st- 0-0-7 stonewall
march 15th- 25-0-10 30% ppscu n + dimension
may 1st- 32-5-7 50% ppscu n
june 15th- 24-2-11 40% ppscu +6% FE
august 1st- 24-2-11 40% ppscu +6% FE
september 15th- 10-0-20 50% ppscu n + dimension
november 1st- lime

Well considering your program is going to be different from just about everyone's and your cost on fert will very as well. The only way to give you a legitimate answer is if you posted your cost/per 1000 of each of these products.

Example: if the bag costs $15 and it covers 15,000 sq/ft it costs you $1 per 1000 sqft for that product. If you do that for each of your products I could tell you what I would charge.

For me personally my products for the entire season add up to between $10 and $11 per 1000 sqft. So I use that information and then depending on the size of the property I adjust my charging price. But I range from $40 per 1000 sqft down to $15 per 1000 sqft. Small properties (5000sqft and less) are in the $40 range and larger properties (2 acres or more) are in the $15 range. Everything else is somewhere in between.

alexschultz1
02-28-2011, 10:49 AM
yeah i was just about to head to lesco and run some numbers. i guess a better question would have been how much gross profit you make off of every 1000 sq feet.

CLS LLC
02-28-2011, 11:52 AM
Well I do from $5 to $30 per 1000 per season depending on the size of the property. But keep in mind I only do 5 applications. If I were to do 7 like you I would have to raise those numbers a bit.
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alexschultz1
02-28-2011, 12:04 PM
Prices per 1000 sq ft for fert alone.

$3.50 feb 1st- 0-0-7 stonewall
$4.00 march 15th- 25-0-10 30% ppscu n + dimension
$1.50 may 1st- 32-5-7 50% ppscu n
$2.00 june 15th- 24-2-11 40% ppscu +6% FE
$2.00 august 1st- 24-2-11 40% ppscu +6% FE
$2.00 september 15th- 10-0-20 50% ppscu n + dimension
$5 a bag november 1st- lime

CLS LLC
02-28-2011, 01:06 PM
WOW your fert is expensive. You scared me, I even called Lesco to make sure my pricing hasn't changed much since last year. My cost on a 50# bag of 19-0-6 Dimension is $16.60 and if I recall the coverage rate of a bag is 16,000 sqft so my cost is just over $1 per app for granular and that's about what all my granular's come out to. I have liquid herbicide that I use as well and that's how it ends up being about $10 per 1000/per year for 5 applications.

Either way. I'm going to assume that you spread 1/5 of the bag of lime per 1000 (I don't know if that's right I don't use lime at all) so that will cost you $1 per 1000. That being said your cost for the year is $16 per 1000/per season.

Do you spread any liquid's at all? or is it all granular? If it's all granular that makes figuring it out much easier.

Now we need to figure out how long it takes to spread fertilizer on 1000 sqft of turf. So lets assume you spreader has a 12 foot spread width. If we take 1000 sqft and divide by 12 you will have the number of feet you have to push the spreader to cover 1000 sqft.

1000/12=83.33 feet

Now since you should be overlapping your passes by 50% we need to double that number:
83.33*2=166.7 (we'll round to 167)

So lets assume you walk at 4 mph while spreading. So we need to figure out how many feet you will travel in 1 hour:

4*5280= 21120

So now divide the number of feet you travel to cover 1000 sqft by the number of feet you travel in 1 hour:

167/21120= 0.0079

So it takes you 0.0079 of 1 hour to walk 167 feet at 4 mph. To convert that into minutes we'll multiply it by 60 (60 minutes in an hour):

0.0079*60= .474

Now finally to convert that into seconds we need to multiply by 60 (60 seconds in a minute)

.474*60= 28.4 seconds

SO Now we know that if you were walking in a straight line it would take you 28 seconds to cover 1000 sqft. Unfortunately you won't generally be walking in a straight line. So on smaller properties it will probably take you 45-60 seconds to cover 1000 sqft (due to more turns) and on larger properties it will take you about 35 seconds.

So now you just need to figure out how much you want to make an hour. Lets say you want to make $100 per hour (just an example) for billable time(not including drive time). Lets use a 10,000 sqft property as an example and lets say you will be covering 1000 sqft in 45 seconds.

10,000*45= 450 seconds

To turn that to minutes we'll divide by 60:

450/60=7.5 minutes

So it should take you 7.5 minutes each time you fertilize that property. Lets add 1 minute for filling the spreader so we have 8.5 minutes of billable time. We can multiply that by your 7 applications:

8.5*7=59.5

So it will have 59.5 billable minutes per year. Now we need to change that to hours (since we want to make 100 per hour) so we'll divide it by 60:

59.5/60= .991

Since we want to make $100 per hour we need to multiply that by 100:

.991*100=$99.10

So we need to charge 99.10 for the time we spend on the property. Now we need to figure in product costs. It is $16 per 1000/per season so we'll multiply that by 10 (due to it being 10,000 sqft):

16*10= 160

So our product cost is $160 and our billable time is $99.10 so when we add those together we come up with the total amount we need to charge:

160+99.1=259.1

So to make $100 per hour we should charge $259.10.

Hope this all wasn't too confusing.

alexschultz1
02-28-2011, 01:14 PM
SWEEET thanks so much man

CLS LLC
02-28-2011, 01:45 PM
SWEEET thanks so much man

If that all made sense you can change the $100 to any number you want. Also keep in mind if you are doing larger properties you will have to change the 45 seconds to something smaller like 40 or 35 depending on how large. Same goes for smaller properties. I would use something closer to 60 seconds for a 5000 sqft property.

dishboy
02-28-2011, 01:49 PM
What does this have to do with Mowing?

bmac1996acc
02-28-2011, 05:28 PM
99.10 to show up somewhere 7 times in a year sure is cheap.

CLS LLC
02-28-2011, 05:49 PM
99.10 to show up somewhere 7 times in a year sure is cheap.

I agree. The numbers were primarily used for the example. But the fact of the mater stands that you shouldn't spend more than 1 hour on the property in those 7 visits.

bmac1996acc
02-28-2011, 06:14 PM
I have a minimum I charge to show up, plus chemical costs. I have a few in cluster communities that I make one pass all the way around the house and I'm done. I have a town home that is about a 15X4 ft strip of grass in front. They both get my minimum service charge plus chemical costs. The only way I go any lower is if there is an immediate neighbor that also gets my service. Then they get a "neighbor discount" that is good as long as they both maintain service.

darrenks
08-26-2011, 06:29 PM
Trying to figure out pricing for roadside spraying...anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks

IRRITECH
08-26-2011, 09:14 PM
Prices per 1000 sq ft for fert alone.

$3.50 feb 1st- 0-0-7 stonewall
$4.00 march 15th- 25-0-10 30% ppscu n + dimension
$1.50 may 1st- 32-5-7 50% ppscu n
$2.00 june 15th- 24-2-11 40% ppscu +6% FE
$2.00 august 1st- 24-2-11 40% ppscu +6% FE
$2.00 september 15th- 10-0-20 50% ppscu n + dimension
$5 a bag november 1st- lime



Wow, you need to go down the street and see Alicia at Ewing.

Falcon50EX
08-27-2011, 07:53 AM
Prices per 1000 sq ft for fert alone.

$3.50 feb 1st- 0-0-7 stonewall
$4.00 march 15th- 25-0-10 30% ppscu n + dimension
$1.50 may 1st- 32-5-7 50% ppscu n
$2.00 june 15th- 24-2-11 40% ppscu +6% FE
$2.00 august 1st- 24-2-11 40% ppscu +6% FE
$2.00 september 15th- 10-0-20 50% ppscu n + dimension
$5 a bag november 1st- lime

Is $3.50 what the Stonewall is costing you per 1,000? If so how much are you putting down per 1,000?
How much is a bag costing you from JDL?
On fert JDL is high here about $6-8 a bag so I use Harrell's and Agruim