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tjlco
03-05-2011, 01:43 PM
How many FL guys have DOT numbers? This has been discussed a gazillion times I'm sure, just curious. And can you get them if you don't need them? Its my understanding you don't need to register in FL if your gvr is under 26,001. I can't see many lco's being over that...

Ric
03-05-2011, 02:13 PM
How many FL guys have DOT numbers? This has been discussed a gazillion times I'm sure, just curious. And can you get them if you don't need them? Its my understanding you don't need to register in FL if your gvr is under 26,001. I can't see many lco's being over that...

Tjlco

A few years back after a DOT NUMBERS disscussion I checked with my local license plate bureau here in Florida. I was told Florida doesn't require DOT Numbers. This might of changed because my information is not up to date. BUT I see one heck of a lot of trucks WITHOUT DOT NUMBERS.

tjlco
03-05-2011, 02:41 PM
Yeah me too, and after tons of searching and a phonecall I came up with this:
The Florida Department of Transportation, Office of Motor Carrier Compliance, on March 1,1999, implemented a new Motor Carrier Registration Program for Intrastate motor carriers. Your company is now required to obtain a USDOT number and display it on all your commercial motor vehicles (CMV's) if your company operates a CMV that:
1. has a declared gross vehicle weight of 26,001 lbs or more;
2. transports hazardous materials requiring placarding;
3. transports hazardous materials in a vehicle with a gross weight rating of 10,001 lbs or more; and/or
4. is designed to transport more than 15 passengers, including the driver, for compensation.
This requirement is not limited to "trucking companies". A motor carrier is any commercial enterprise that uses such vehicles in the furtherance of its business. If your company operates a commercial vehicle, you are subject to Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations, which includes obtaining and displaying a USDOT number. These regulations were adopted in Section 316.302, Florida Statutes.

now I do carry about 35 total gallons of fuel so maybe I need it for that, not the weight

Ric
03-05-2011, 03:04 PM
Yeah me too, and after tons of searching and a phonecall I came up with this:
The Florida Department of Transportation, Office of Motor Carrier Compliance, on March 1,1999, implemented a new Motor Carrier Registration Program for Intrastate motor carriers. Your company is now required to obtain a USDOT number and display it on all your commercial motor vehicles (CMV's) if your company operates a CMV that:
1. has a declared gross vehicle weight of 26,001 lbs or more;
2. transports hazardous materials requiring placarding;
3. transports hazardous materials in a vehicle with a gross weight rating of 10,001 lbs or more; and/or
4. is designed to transport more than 15 passengers, including the driver, for compensation.
This requirement is not limited to "trucking companies". A motor carrier is any commercial enterprise that uses such vehicles in the furtherance of its business. If your company operates a commercial vehicle, you are subject to Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations, which includes obtaining and displaying a USDOT number. These regulations were adopted in Section 316.302, Florida Statutes.

now I do carry about 35 total gallons of fuel so maybe I need it for that, not the weight


TJ

My Isuzu is 14,500 GVW and as a pesticide truck sure qualifies as transporting hazardous materials. In fact the each DOT Officer must stop so many Hazmat type inspections each year to keep their Hazmat EPA certificate. In my area that mean Pesticide trucks 3/4 tons or bigger. I have stopped by DOT and they are bears about writing a ticket. DOT NUMBERS never came up and the officer was just looking for something to write me on.

zturncutter
03-05-2011, 09:08 PM
Out here they are so busy wieghing the citrus haulers they don't have much time to do anything else. :)

Ric
03-06-2011, 11:39 AM
Out here they are so busy wieghing the citrus haulers they don't have much time to do anything else. :)

Zturn

I am not sure what variety trees I have but they are old Very old. Any way I think I might of squeezed my last orange for this year. My oranges are over ripe now and not as sweet as they once were. But I have tons of flowers for next years crop.

Duffster
03-06-2011, 04:44 PM
TJ

My Isuzu is 14,500 GVW and as a pesticide truck sure qualifies as transporting hazardous materials. In fact the each DOT Officer must stop so many Hazmat type inspections each year to keep their Hazmat EPA certificate. In my area that mean Pesticide trucks 3/4 tons or bigger. I have stopped by DOT and they are bears about writing a ticket. DOT NUMBERS never came up and the officer was just looking for something to write me on.

So you have a CDL with HazMat and tank endorsements?

Ric
03-06-2011, 05:59 PM
So you have a CDL with HazMat and tank endorsements?

Duffster

So you are here from the Midwest to tells us how to do things in Florida. Sorry I do not have a CDL but I do have HazMat Endorsement AND I AM NOT REQUIRED TO IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. May I suggest you start your Brian before engaging your Key Board.

Duffster
03-06-2011, 06:24 PM
Duffster

So you are here from the Midwest to tells us how to do things in Florida. Sorry I do not have a CDL but I do have HazMat Endorsement AND I AM NOT REQUIRED TO IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. May I suggest you start your Brian before engaging your Key Board.

:rolleyes:

Because you are not hauling HazMat.

Do tell about this HazMat endorsement that you have without a CDL.

Duffster
03-09-2011, 09:35 PM
Do tell about this HazMat endorsement that you have without a CDL.

I am truly interested in hearing about this HazMat Endorsement.

Ric
03-09-2011, 10:06 PM
I am truly interested in hearing about this HazMat Endorsement.

Duffster

Unlike the Mid West where they give away Pesticide Cert in Cracker Jack Boxes, Florida has some of the strictest rules about Pesticide in the nation. We actually have to take a Real Pesticide Test to get Certified. AND HazMat training is offered by both the Manufactures and County extension services. It might not be the same training or cert as a CDL might have but it is a Cert and without one you can not legally clean up your own spill in Florida. I will actually be attending a HazMat CEU class on March 29.

Duffster
03-09-2011, 10:20 PM
Duffster

Unlike the Mid West where they give away Pesticide Cert in Cracker Jack Boxes, Florida has some of the strictest rules about Pesticide in the nation. We actually have to take a Real Pesticide Test to get Certified. AND HazMat training is offered by both the Manufactures and County extension services. It might not be the same training or cert as a CDL might have but it is a Cert and without one you can not legally clean up your own spill in Florida. I will actually be attending a HazMat CEU class on March 29.

So pesticide isn't a hazardous material requiring placards?

Just trying to wrap my Brian around this.

Ric
03-11-2011, 04:58 PM
Here is an advisory from Manatee County Extension Service about DOT inspection stops. DOT can be very hard about having all the I dotted and T crossed.

http://prohortmanatee.wordpress.com/2011/03/04/listen-up-dot-stepping-up-inspections/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wordpress%2Fphmblog+%28ProHortManateeBlog%29&utm_content=Yahoo%21+Mail

Mark Oomkes
03-15-2011, 03:46 PM
Duffster

So you are here from the Midwest to tells us how to do things in Florida. Sorry I do not have a CDL but I do have HazMat Endorsement AND I AM NOT REQUIRED TO IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. May I suggest you start your Brian before engaging your Key Board.

How aboot a tanker endorsement?

Who's Brian?

Duffster
03-15-2011, 03:49 PM
Who's Brian?

:confused: I don't know but I was hoping he could tell us how to get a HazMat endorsement without a CDL.

Ric
03-15-2011, 06:17 PM
Mark & Duffster

You guy are the typical stereotype of why southerners hate G.D. Yankees. You come south or into a southern Forum and try and tell us how to do things or knock what we do. Here in Florida I would tell you real quick if you don't like what we do, Take I 75 North we won't miss you.

The HazMat certification we are talking about is from the Florida Dept of Agriculture and Consumer Services Bureau of Entomology & Pest Control. It is not connected to the Dept of Transportation or the HazMat Endorement for Certified Drivers License or CDL.

Duffster
03-15-2011, 06:38 PM
Mark & Duffster

You guy are the typical stereotype of why southerners hate G.D. Yankees. You come south or into a southern Forum and try and tell us how to do things or knock what we do. Here in Florida I would tell you real quick if you don't like what we do, Take I 75 North we won't miss you.

You hear that MarkO? He called you a GD yankee! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

The HazMat certification we are talking about is from the Florida Dept of Agriculture and Consumer Services Bureau of Entomology & Pest Control. It is not connected to the Dept of Transportation or the HazMat Endorement for Certified Drivers License or CDL.

CERTIFIED driver license. Ya can't write commedy like that. :laugh:

Mark Oomkes
03-16-2011, 08:31 AM
How many FL guys have DOT numbers? This has been discussed a gazillion times I'm sure, just curious. And can you get them if you don't need them? Its my understanding you don't need to register in FL if your gvr is under 26,001. I can't see many lco's being over that...

Tjlco

A few years back after a DOT NUMBERS disscussion I checked with my local license plate bureau here in Florida. I was told Florida doesn't require DOT Numbers. This might of changed because my information is not up to date. BUT I see one heck of a lot of trucks WITHOUT DOT NUMBERS.

Yeah me too, and after tons of searching and a phonecall I came up with this:
The Florida Department of Transportation, Office of Motor Carrier Compliance, on March 1,1999, implemented a new Motor Carrier Registration Program for Intrastate motor carriers. Your company is now required to obtain a USDOT number and display it on all your commercial motor vehicles (CMV's) if your company operates a CMV that:
1. has a declared gross vehicle weight of 26,001 lbs or more;
2. transports hazardous materials requiring placarding;
3. transports hazardous materials in a vehicle with a gross weight rating of 10,001 lbs or more; and/or
4. is designed to transport more than 15 passengers, including the driver, for compensation.
This requirement is not limited to "trucking companies". A motor carrier is any commercial enterprise that uses such vehicles in the furtherance of its business. If your company operates a commercial vehicle, you are subject to Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations, which includes obtaining and displaying a USDOT number. These regulations were adopted in Section 316.302, Florida Statutes.

now I do carry about 35 total gallons of fuel so maybe I need it for that, not the weight

Mark & Duffster

You guy are the typical stereotype of why southerners hate G.D. Yankees. You come south or into a southern Forum and try and tell us how to do things or knock what we do. Here in Florida I would tell you real quick if you don't like what we do, Take I 75 North we won't miss you.

Perchance, most esteemed southern gentleman Ric, you will notice why Duffster and myself were questioning you regarding your "HazMat Endorsement" now, because this thread started off aboot DOT #'s, trucks, etc. Nothing to do with some HazMat cert from the Dept of Ag which is a totally different dept than Florida DOT.

The HazMat certification we are talking about is from the Florida Dept of Agriculture and Consumer Services Bureau of Entomology & Pest Control. It is not connected to the Dept of Transportation or the HazMat Endorement for Certified Drivers License or CDL.

You are the one who crossed from one licensing authority to another while the original poster was asking aboot something that had nothing to do with what you are talking aboot.

But yet, we are the ignorant ones.

Whatever. :dizzy:

Ric
03-16-2011, 09:40 AM
You are the one who crossed from one licensing authority to another while the original poster was asking aboot something that had nothing to do with what you are talking aboot.

But yet, we are the ignorant ones.

Whatever. :dizzy:

What you are failing to understand is what makes you G.D. Yankees.

D Yankee read our threads and learns something.

G.D. Yankee reads our threads and is too G.D. Dumb to learn anything, so they post their worthless opinions.

Mark Oomkes
03-16-2011, 10:41 AM
What you are failing to understand is what makes you G.D. Yankees.

D Yankee read our threads and learns something.

G.D. Yankee reads our threads and is too G.D. Dumb to learn anything, so they post their worthless opinions.

I love you!

Hugs and kisses. :drinkup:

PS Being the internet and all, how do you know I'm not a 15 YO schoolgirl from SoBeach?

Mark Oomkes
03-16-2011, 11:06 AM
PPS Ric, most kind and gentle southern gentleman, contraire on not learning anything, as I have learned that Florida Dept of Ag has a HazMat cert that has JACK SQUAT to do with the question proposed by the OP.

While on the flip side, you have learned nothing about manners or accepting criticism or correction from another person.

Ric
03-16-2011, 03:05 PM
PPS Ric, most kind and gentle southern gentleman, contraire on not learning anything, as I have learned that Florida Dept of Ag has a HazMat cert that has JACK SQUAT to do with the question proposed by the OP.

While on the flip side, you have learned nothing about manners or accepting criticism or correction from another person.

Mark

I have never been called a gentleman and prefer to think of my self as a pure Trailer Trash Arrogant Red Neck. However being part Asian I am the Wong Fooking Race to be considered Red Neck Trailer Trash. So I am just arrogant.

AS for answering OP's question, With all the crap people put on cars & Trucks today why would a DOT number be illegal to put on a truck as long as it was the correct number? I see no question to answer.

Duffster
03-17-2011, 09:22 AM
What you are failing to understand is what makes you G.D. Yankees.

D Yankee read our threads and learns something.

G.D. Yankee reads our threads and is too G.D. Dumb to learn anything, so they post their worthless opinions.

Says the guy who changed his story several times within one thread. :rolleyes:

Duffster
03-17-2011, 09:27 AM
I love you!

Hugs and kisses. :drinkup:

PS Being the internet and all, how do you know I'm not a 15 YO schoolgirl from SoBeach?

When is your birthday anyway. I am waiting for you to turn 18. :laugh: