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03-09-2011, 08:25 PM
I removed the fence and dug out the leaves & Jasmine roots, tilled area with a the Stihl Kombi tiller attachment-which is a awesome product. This borders a tennis court. The owner has a drainage problem, the water backs up on the court but I'm sure after today's massive rain storms that hit this area, the water flowed right off after getting this Jasmine messed removed. There is already pea gravel in this area, As I assume they used it for the foundation when installing the court. Between the metal fence and the wooden fence, there was like a 10" barrier-no man's land between the two fences, thus this area could not be weed eated & debris plus the Jasmine only clogged up the flow of water off the court. The owner is thinking of putting in a French drain. I'm thinking otherwise, I'm thinking about digging it down a few more inches and putting heavy granite rock (1"-2" size), Since the Jasmine debris has been removed, I don't see the need to put in a French drain "now". Then when the yard guy mows, he can blow the leaves out w/o blowing the rock away. The wood fence is NOT going back up where it originally was but moved back a good two feet. This portion of the job, took me 5.10 hrs.
Any ideas? Thanks.
First Impression I would dig a trench and install cloth covered 4 or 6 inch drainage pipe that drained to a more desirable area or French Drain. Most Plumbing supply House will carry the Cloth covered Drainage pipe. The cloth help keep the drainage pipe free of fine sand and dirt. The trench is best filled with a stone mulch. Lime Stone is inexpensive and very Porous.
03-10-2011, 10:18 PM
I dug out the 2nd part of this project today. The blue tank is a mosquito misting system, tubing running everywhere, through the beds and trees! Over kill I think. Had to hand dig this area. Cut (1) misting tube running across the Jasmine to the fence. Cut a sprinkler pipe. Had to use a sawzall to cut out some big roots. Don't look time consuming but it took me nearly (3) hrs to dig this out by hand & fill up five gl buckets to dump in the wheel barrow.
Looks like you are going about it in the right way. Jasmine roots can be a PITA that close to a Cement pad. I used to have a power shovel which was used for cutting roots. It is mostly used for digging Palms tree Root Balls. But an other great tool for removing old roots is a PONY SHOVEL. It is a straight design weighting about 25 pounds and is used like a spear and driven into the ground to chop roots. The Traditional axe and Machete also come in handy.
Any time you dig, you run the risk of cutting all kinds of Line etc. I always make it clear to my customer, I can not be responsible if I break something under ground and it may cost YOU the customer extra money. At the same time Irrigation type breaks are SOP and should be repaired as part of the Digging Project at no extra cost to the customer.
03-12-2011, 10:46 PM
Yeah, I told em I assume no liability when digging out areas like this one. I cut through a irrigation pipe in that area and it the other area posted in my first photo. I have a big bucket of pvc repair sleeves I've saved over the yrs & I used them. I will charge him for the pvc parts I used! :laugh:
The client (a Doctor) told me after I get finished with everything, he is getting the tennis court resurfaced. Digging up the Jasmine, was the "easy" part! I took my Stihl Kombi 130 with the straight hedger & drilled into the Jasmine & walked side ways dragging the hedger through the ground slicing the Jasmine, then used the spikes on my hand tool cultivator to pull it out in one whole long strip of Jasmine. My biggest prob was the Live Oak roots-cutting em out with a sawzall on my knees, this yard is full of Live Oaks.
This is basically "grunt work", on my knees 95% of the time while working. I couldn't use any tractor type equipment because of the narrowness of work space. Where I put the rock out pictured below, was the hardest area so far, digging it out with a square spade shovel & cultivator tool. After I removed the fence posts, I was able to get my 18" tiller in there & really make speedy progress. Not able to put in a wheel barrow, So had to fill up countless (5) GL buckets of dirt & transfer to barrow. Had to bucket in the rock also...at least it was shady & coll weather to work in.
Monday I'll be digging out the South side of court...I will have to pull the fence wire up, rope it up and crawl between the metal fence & neighbor's wood fence-a space of about 12", get on my knees & sawzall out a mound of roots about 6" tall, more pics to come of that :cry: I told em before they hired me, I'd assume no liability on damaging the fence, since they wanted me to "pull" it up, future pics will better explain the pull thingy.
NOTE: The photo of cultivator hand tool, been buying this same exact one from Lowes for yrs (under $11) now. It is light and IS a great garden tool to own. I break the wood handles often but the metal heads never break off. I tried to find it online at Lowes to post link, but could not find it.
Photos of landscape timbers installed & some lime stone rock put out. I dug about 6" below the court black top to fill in with rock. 15 hours labor so far!
03-12-2011, 10:55 PM
Lowes Cultivator tool:
03-19-2011, 12:19 AM
Did you put drainage flex pipe under the rock?
03-23-2011, 10:38 PM
No on the flex pipe. The ground is sandy loam & drains off quickly, as the yard beyond the rock, slopes down to the street. I finished this (whew!) project today. Total hours to complete: 31.17 min. Yesterday & today, I pulled up the metal fencing as seen in the photo's. Worked out better than I thought. Had a tough time re wiring the fence to post at each corner, since I had to cut the metal brackets pulling the fence tight to the post, off. The client is very pleased with the work thus far & I'll be re sodding large area's of the lawn, in the near future. He has oak trees all over the yard & told him he needs to thin out a lot of limbs if he wants the sun to hit the St Aug & prevent dead spots, which are all over the front and back yards.
03-23-2011, 10:42 PM
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