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coolbrze
03-31-2011, 07:32 PM
We're going to purchase a new aerator this Spring. What comapny makes the best core aerator? Most of our accounts are 1/4 acre lots but we have some townhouses & 1/2 acre lots as well. What manufacturers/options should we be looking at? What size motor & width aerator do you recommend? Thanks in advance!

JFGauvreau
03-31-2011, 07:42 PM
If your not looking to do more than 1/2 an acre I would suggest the Ryan Lawnaire V. It's a simple wb aerator of about 25 inches width.

If you have a bit more money to invest, then go for the lawn solutions one.

aeration
04-01-2011, 10:47 PM
Lawn Solutions.

www.plugitlawn.com

DAR57
04-02-2011, 09:25 AM
Plugr all the way. I do acre lots with my walk behind. Wont buy a larger aerator for big jobs until I can afford their "Tow Pro".

mikesturf
04-03-2011, 02:28 PM
Lawn solutions is way better than any Ryan. I've owned the Ryan V and IV and the Lawn Solutions MUCH easier to lift the tines and it can go backwards while aerating-GIANT advantage.

JFGauvreau
04-03-2011, 07:12 PM
Lawn solutions is way better than any Ryan. I've owned the Ryan V and IV and the Lawn Solutions MUCH easier to lift the tines and it can go backwards while aerating-GIANT advantage.

Is the lawns solution still removes plugs? like cores? or is it just a spiking aerator?

fatboynormmie
04-03-2011, 09:02 PM
Is the lawns solution still removes plugs? like cores? or is it just a spiking aerator?


The LS does pull plugs but not a ton of them like the Plugrs do.Soil conditions seem to make a big difference with the LS 21" aerifier if it will pulls plugs or not.It pokes plenty of holes but you won't always see alot of plugs on top of the grass.Some custs care about seeing plugs some don't .The LS machine is very easy on the operator while aerating compared to most machines on the market .And aerating in reverse is a big plus as it saves you from lifting the tines out of the ground every time you go to back up.

JFGauvreau
04-03-2011, 09:38 PM
The LS does pull plugs but not a ton of them like the Plugrs do.Soil conditions seem to make a big difference with the LS 21" aerifier if it will pulls plugs or not.It pokes plenty of holes but you won't always see alot of plugs on top of the grass.Some custs care about seeing plugs some don't .The LS machine is very easy on the operator while aerating compared to most machines on the market .And aerating in reverse is a big plus as it saves you from lifting the tines out of the ground every time you go to back up.

Ya no doubt that reversing would save you a lot of time, and it would be very efficient on small lawns with lots of obstacle. However, on bigger lawns, the Ryan machines are faster (if you can keep up with them lol) and they actually remove plugs which I find better then spiking a lawn.

stang2244
04-05-2011, 01:01 AM
Plugr OWNS all other walk behind units. I bought the PL855 over the weekend and I've hit a few lawns with it. I will post some pictures when I get time but it pulls a ton of plugs. It is a million times easier than my Classen was to use and I get a result that looks like I went over it 3 times. It takes a couple of lawns to get the hang of the controls but this machine has impressed me thus far.
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Exact Rototilling
04-05-2011, 01:01 AM
There is NOT a single best aerator out there. It is very true that many of the older designed rolling tine units will cover more square footage faster. Ryan, Turfco, Bluebird, Husky and Classen in the bigger wider units.

Just saw a LCO doing a home owners association grassy swell Sunday with a rental Classen. The unit was moving along at a faster pace than my Plugr 850 or my LS WB and it is wider.

Yeah Plugrs pull more plugs in the 800 series but the non hydro 800 is less than fun any anything but flat properties and slow. The lack of hydro drive makes them a tug fest when not aerating. So if you're serious about the more plugs angle that leaves you with the Hydro Plugr 850 or 855 hydro or extra 1/2 plug per square foot with the Ryan 28 Reciprocating tricycle model in WB aerators. The perforator that attaches to Walker mower is the same pattern as the Plugr 800 series but I'm not sure if you can play the same tricks with that unit, as you can with the PL 850 or 855, so you maintain plug depth as the tines wear. The PL1600 has the same pattern but is a tow behind.

Both the Plugr 850 and Lawn Solutions 21" WB are best on smaller properties. I've done large estate properties with both but it sure is a tremendous amount of walking. After doing one of these bigger properties I can actually see the tines wears in about 2.5 hours of use. The Lawn solution Stander has appeal for me but the $8500 price tag tells me I need to be doing more aeration than I am currently. I've already spent over $10k combined on all my aerators in the last 3 years. It just makes more sense for me to focus on properties that work well with my current combo.

Just a warning on the greater wear and tear cost of operation with the Plugrs is you need to be playing the card that these are better aerations with higher plugs counts in a single pass...and be pulling in a bit more $ for the extra time spent walking and tine wear. The back part of the frame just busted on my original Plugr yesterday. It's going to the welding shop in the morning. The repairs will be cover by Plugr under warranty. Glad I have PL850 #2. Late generation 850 have upgraded frames. Call Plugr for the serial number cut off.

stang2244
04-05-2011, 01:34 AM
I should have been more specific. Most of my lawns are 2500 sq ft to 8500 sq ft. As far as selling the higher plug count, it sells itself. People see what it does and don't ask questions. I'm not going to say it pulls the deepest plugs in the world, but the TRUE average plug depth is 2"-2.5". You'll get some that are 3" and some just under 2". This is much better than what I see the rolling tine units doing in the same area. It may not be faster and it may cost more to replace tines, but the benefits are more than worth it.

lawn king
04-05-2011, 06:52 AM
The LS does pull plugs but not a ton of them like the Plugrs do.Soil conditions seem to make a big difference with the LS 21" aerifier if it will pulls plugs or not.It pokes plenty of holes but you won't always see alot of plugs on top of the grass.Some custs care about seeing plugs some don't .The LS machine is very easy on the operator while aerating compared to most machines on the market .And aerating in reverse is a big plus as it saves you from lifting the tines out of the ground every time you go to back up.

This is not the case her'e on new england soils. My lawn solutions wb pulls a lot of plugs. No need to make a second pass.

Exact Rototilling
04-05-2011, 02:34 PM
The Plugr 85X has a tremendous visual impact. The Plugrs eject the plugs on the top of the grass. If people are skeptical they are believers typically deliver after the fact. I have had several complaints about showing up with the LS WB where as even 2 years prior I showed up my Plugr 850. Last year was my first year with the Lawn Solutions machine and I was frankly puzzled on how charge or market differently? Generally if it was new customer I'd run the LS aerator, but I did find myself overlapping quite bit for my own satisfaction. This took longer but I was not used to the more passive plug effect of the using a rolling tine machine.

It true David's WB and the stander pull the TIGHTEST pattern of WB or Stand on rolling tine aerator. 3.5" x 6". Some of the Ryan's tow behinds can be set up with additional tines with a very dense pattern.

In my marketing I do play the card of 17% more plugs with the Lawn Solutions 21" WB as a competitive advantage over the other Ryan, Bluebirds, Classens, Turfco's etc. This is a notable difference.

The difference between rolling tine and reciprocating are dramatic. I'm playing on this heavily this year with my marketing. It is true the LS WB will pull deeper plugs in the right conditions but over all I find the Plugr Hydros to be more versatile but it has a high fiddle factor. Some of these issues have been addressed with the new 855.

This season I'm pricing my Plugr 850 aerations @ 15% more than the LS aerations. Time will tell.

Speaking of....need to run the the welding shop and take Plugr #1 for a rear frame weld repair. :hammerhead:

I'm still waiting on those free Plugr tines for life....ok even wholesale would be good...I go through them quickly.

Dr.NewEarth
04-05-2011, 05:19 PM
I wouldn't use a machine that spikes the grass. That is counterproductive in my opinion. It is punching a hole, and the sides of that hole are compacted.

One of the benefits of proper aeration is the alleviation of compaction

I recommend pulling your plugs!....

they decompose, the roots get more oxygen and you
stress the lawn less

We have a Husqvarna with a 4 hp Honda engine. It's the best because it is orange.

64 tines, chain driven and it goes one direction only...and will go through gardens
and fences too. It weighs too much for one guy to lift, but two can get it up onto
the tailgate of a pick-up truck.

For small yards in the hoa's etc. it is more practical for us to use a three tine shovel type aerator. Some of those tiny grass areas can be up ten stairs and are only three feet by nine feet or smaller.
They go to school to become landscape architects, you know?