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southgalawns
04-09-2011, 07:04 PM
Well at the moment I have an 03 chevy 1500 and I get around 9mpg when towing. and i drive 45 miles(one-way) away once a week to cut grass. I found an 06 chevy 2500hd diesel with 146k miles for 25k. I am a car guy so I know it has the LBZ duramax which is the best(right before the dpf and emissions). I am worried about the miles alittle bit, not so much engine and trans, but more of the other components on the truck. I have a degree in automotive technology so I know alot about vehicles ( but i also know that i dont know everything). So the point of the thread is to get opinions on the truck, and to get specific details to look at. any info would help.

BlackBirdWS.6
04-09-2011, 07:41 PM
LBZ is by far the best Duramax to buy, and even with that many miles it should still be in great shape (depending on previous owner) but if you have any other questions, go onto Duramaxforum.com theirs a lot of helpful people on there.

southgalawns
04-10-2011, 11:04 AM
done. still looking for opinions from people that use this truck as a work truck and not a show truck.

White Gardens
04-10-2011, 11:07 AM
Personally, I don't like the Duramax. I've heard of too many people locally having problems with them around 200,000 miles.

If I were to go with a diesel, I'd go with a Cummins. Just my opinion though.

southgalawns
04-10-2011, 11:10 AM
cummins is my first choice but hard to find 6spd man that is priced good and hasnt been ragged out, also wife only will let me get a chevy.

White Gardens
04-10-2011, 11:17 AM
cummins is my first choice but hard to find 6spd man that is priced good and hasnt been ragged out, also wife only will let me get a chevy.

Chevy, Dodge, Ford, it don't matter, they all break the same way. You need to get your wife off the brand loyalty kick. It's just a hunk of metal the depreciates, it's not a pet.

Dodge's only pit-fall is they never built a good truck around the Cummins. They might be better now, but they really messed up in the nineties and hurt their rep.

Popeye77
04-10-2011, 11:20 AM
delete this post please??

DoetschOutdoor
04-10-2011, 11:25 PM
That price is way to high. Keep looking around. I looked for a good 3 months before finding the right diesel and got really ahead on it. The deals are out there you just have to be patient (I know its hard)

JPsDuramax
04-11-2011, 05:22 PM
I have an 04 duramax (LLY) and it has 170,000 on it. Overall it has been a great truck. Just normal wear and tear. The only bad thing was the transfer case got a hole in it from use. Dealer said that GM knew of the problem but wouldn't recall it. As far as price, that is way too much. I paid 25k for mine with 70k on it for a LT model in 2008. I'd keep looking if I were you.
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southgalawns
04-11-2011, 07:46 PM
i am gonna try and drive them down on the price since i found a lbz gmc for same prive with only 75k miles

teckjohn
04-11-2011, 08:57 PM
http://www.alacable.com/forsale/2008dodge/ is a truck i have for sale for $19500 with less than 300 miles on rebuild engine. I drive the same truck daily but its a 2005 cummins with 300,000 miles on it. Bought it new and changed oil air and fuel along with trans filters and never touched the engine. Just a torque converter on the trans. It get 27 MPG with no chip

Scagmower48
04-11-2011, 10:19 PM
Keep the truck you have and enjoy having smaller bills with more money in your pocket.

New used truck=

Sales tax
More Insurance
More property tax
More Registration due to higher GVW
More depreciation
You would now have a opportunity cost since you spent money(what could have you done with the money if u didn't spend the money)

If your truck does the job (u never said it didn't) then keep it. Its not smart to buy a $25k truck to get a few MPG more. I've done the math over and over again, and a diesel is never worth it for average driving with a little work. And towing a couple lawn mowers is not considered heavy duty towing.

If have a bigger truck and a diesel was worth it I would've bought one already. I have the money to buy a new diesel but i won't cause its not worth it.

southgalawns
04-12-2011, 10:17 AM
so 5-10 mpg more isnt worth it to you?

knox gsl
04-12-2011, 10:27 AM
so 5-10 mpg more isnt worth it to you?

Not even close. I've got a 1/2ton dodge getting 10mpg towing/hauling that is paid for. Now if I go out and find a used 3/4 ton diesel for $15,000 and after paying tax and tag $17,000 and get 14mpg and pay $.40 more per gallon for fuel where did I come out better.

southgalawns
04-12-2011, 10:33 AM
lol .40 is what 10-15% more than gas, so let's say I get 10 atm ( more like 9 actually) and I get 15 with a diesel ( probally more like 17-18) that is a 60% increase is mpg at a 15% increase of cost. I am not going to be paying much more when it comes to payments. If I can't get one around the same payments, I just won't get it. Plus factor in the abuse that 33" tires have done on my IFS. 1000 dollars every few years for new suspension parts.

DoetschOutdoor
04-12-2011, 07:48 PM
lol .40 is what 10-15% more than gas, so let's say I get 10 atm ( more like 9 actually) and I get 15 with a diesel ( probally more like 17-18) that is a 60% increase is mpg at a 15% increase of cost. I am not going to be paying much more when it comes to payments. If I can't get one around the same payments, I just won't get it. Plus factor in the abuse that 33" tires have done on my IFS. 1000 dollars every few years for new suspension parts.

You prolly wont see 17-18mpg that often, definately never for work. Before I got my diesel, everyone talked about 20+ mpg, etc. etc. but the mileage hasnt been as good as I expected. I see about an average of 13mpg pulling around 6,000lbs, whereas the gasser that I have used for the same route got about 9-10. I found a good deal on my truck with low miles and should be able to keep it alot longer than I would a gasser putting about 20k a year on it.

Scagmower48
04-12-2011, 09:53 PM
Seems to me most people get into a pissing match about what thier diesel gets for mileage and the numbers get really inflated. I bet most diesels don't get much better mileage than a gasser when working.

southgalawns
04-12-2011, 10:07 PM
lol o have had a 06 gmc lbz before, lol believe me i will get close to 18, if u have a 07+ diesel ur mileage will be shitty.

Evan528
04-12-2011, 11:51 PM
DO NOT BELEAVE what people tell you they get for MPG on their diesels. My 03 cummins gets 10-11 pulling a 16ft landscape trailer around town..... that is maybe 2 MPG better than the gas trucks I have owned. Highway driving is where the diesels really shine. My 03 Ram does 70MPH on the higway and dosn't go over 2,000 rpms to do so which = 20MPG. Its a shame I rarely do highway driving.

lawnboy dan
04-13-2011, 08:47 AM
deisel is false ecomomy in a full sized truck

southgalawns
04-13-2011, 09:35 AM
lol an i do mostly highway driving since 75% of my sites are 50 miles away. evan you have an exhaust or chip?

Capemay Eagle
04-13-2011, 12:32 PM
I would look into a new F 150 ecoboost. 11,300 towing along with great fuel milage! It is my next truck!

Evan528
04-13-2011, 08:43 PM
well if you do that much highway than a diesel would save you a bundle over the long haul. I do not have a chip or exhaust as I still have a manufactures warranty and dont want it voided.

southgalawns
04-13-2011, 09:10 PM
aslong as u dont act stupid a chip and exhaust would help alot, just gotta be smart about it and dont abuse it.

johnyredd99
04-16-2011, 11:34 PM
believe the original post was about worried that buying a truck w/ so many miles will stuff being more apt to failing. like power windows breaking, door handles breaking, spare tire holder being so rusted it breaks, tailgate latches. And to answer that yes alot more and it seems once one thing goes everything else fallows.
Diesel vs. Gas depends.
Diesel trucks are built w/ stronger front end, dual batteries, long hours idleing..great for plowing. able to idle is also great for hot ass days when you can let it run w/ a/c on while you cut...nother better then jumping in a cold truck when it 100 out.
I believe the thing about mpg while some others dont..but its not always the trucks fault for low mpg if your always heavy on the peddle

southgalawns
04-17-2011, 12:13 AM
i agree, since i only have 2 more years on my tuck payments i am gonna keep it and hopefully gas wont kill me in the mean time

joed
05-08-2011, 04:04 PM
The diesel/gas debate is interesting. I've had a 92 Ford with the old 7.3 naturally aspirated diesel. It got about 16 mpg in the city. I currently have a 2000 GMC Sierra 2500 with the 6.0L gas engine. It gets about 11-13 mpg in the city. The 7.3 was a great engine but when it broke down, maintenance costs were really insane. In contrast, the 6.0L gas has been bullet proof and has had next no issues with it apart from the fact that it sucks up gas. Even basic things like an oil change where much more expensive on the diesel.

Overall, the choice of diesel engine depends on what you're doing. If you're pulling heavy weight or hauling heavy loads or driving for long distances most of the time, the diesel is great. But, if all you're doing is carrying equipment or loads to a job site and then the truck sits there before moving on to the next job, I'd take a gas truck instead. It has a lower initial cost, lower maintenance costs, etc. Don't forget as well, whether or have gas or diesel, the truck will eventually fall apart around the engine. So, the diesel might last until 400 000 miles but what happens if the truck starts falling apart around 250 000 to 300 000 miles?