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Jimbo
10-01-2002, 11:58 AM
- What is included in most fall clean-ups (besides twigs, and trash pick-up)?

Thanks

Scraper
10-01-2002, 12:55 PM
leaves ;)

Jimbo
10-01-2002, 02:23 PM
Oh and leaves....

Thats just it my props all allow me to bag or mulch the leaves. And I dont have many overhanging trees, so I am losing $$$$ on the fall clean-ups.

Oh well looks like I need to get some props with lots of trees next year.

Gravely_Man
10-01-2002, 03:38 PM
Be careful of what you wish for. Too many trees is a hard thing to clean up without the right equipment. Then again new equipment is always nice!

Gravely_Man

mdb landscaping
10-01-2002, 05:40 PM
my fall clean up consists of the following:

-blow out all the beds with back pack blower
-use walkbehind blower to blow leaves into huge piles
-use leaf plow and put the leaves where they can be vac'ed out or blown into the woods
-vac up leaves if needed with truckloader
-mow and bag the lawn

MikeLT1Z28
10-01-2002, 08:54 PM
well, this will be my first year so i hope i have everything in order.

just got 1000 flyers ran off.
bought my walker mid-season so i have a way to collect leaves.
trusty BR-420 blower to move them.

i plan on removing all leaves from the lawn, beds, corners, carport/garage. i'll also get up and limbs, twigs, etc.

i plan to spend this month finishing up the regular season and getting beds in shape for customers, that should take us right into leaf season.

Del9175
10-01-2002, 11:33 PM
When I did lawn care in MI, we would blow out the gutters and clean off the roof if needed. I live and do lawn care in FL now and I sure don't miss fall clean ups. I do however miss the couple months off.

greenman
10-01-2002, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by Del9175
When I did lawn care in MI, we would blow out the gutters and clean off the roof if needed. I live and do lawn care in FL now and I sure don't miss fall clean ups. I do however miss the couple months off.

Cleaning out gutters is another job in itself. Not part of leaf clean up unless the customer requests then there's an increase in price.

It is fall clean up of course though.

MOW ED
10-02-2002, 06:43 AM
Oh boy I can see the gutter discussion coming back around.

Doing the fall clean up is nothing like mowing. Mowing is fast and usually production based. I can guarantee that if you take lots of fall clean customers and you don't have the equipment and personnel to handle it, you will be in deep (leaf) trouble.

My clean ups are for weekly customers first and others can be added later. Every week (twice a week sometimes) we show up and blow out all areas around the house, walks, drives, planting beds. This all goes on the lawn that has been conveninetly cut to about 1.5 inches. The Toro 44 WB w doubles and the mulch kit grinds them to dust> The Walker picks up the chunks and windrows if needed.
All work is charged at a rate of 40 or 60 per man/hour. 2 people working. The 60 per mh rate is if debris is to be removed. Once again most debris is ground up but if I take a small load to the dump then they get a 60/mh bill. We like the arrangement.

The final clean of the year is very thorough with great care and detail taken in all areas. Window wells are cleaned out, everything will be ready for the big brown out.

No offence on the gutter comment but this topic has generated lots of discussion in the past. I do single story gutters ONLY. Long story about why.

greenman
10-02-2002, 09:37 AM
I'll do some reading on the old gutter topics later.
I would say the gutter thing is an insurance problem, because its so risky. Probably need a higher risk insurance, like for tree work, because its requires getting off the ground. Thats also another reason why gutter cleaning can be profitable. Single story gutter that takes, what, about 5 to 10 minutes to blow out will get you atleast 35, 40 bucks maybe.

FrankenScagMachines
10-02-2002, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by greenman
I'll do some reading on the old gutter topics later.
I would say the gutter thing is an insurance problem, because its so risky. Probably need a higher risk insurance, like for tree work, because its requires getting off the ground. Thats also another reason why gutter cleaning can be profitable. Single story gutter that takes, what, about 5 to 10 minutes to blow out will get you atleast 35, 40 bucks maybe.

Yea, like climbing a tree is more dangerous than driving a 50hp deisel 72" lawnmower at 13mph. across a rough lawn :dizzy: :dizzy: :confused: :rolleyes:
Almost everyone climbed trees as kids, everyone lived through it. Alot of people, grown men even, nearly kill themselves sometimes on these mowers. A while back I heard of a guy that was on a Z on a pond bank and went in, was trapped by the levers and drowned.
Have heard of arborists falling to their death too but my point is that single story houses are probably alot safer than some of the equipment we operate daily. What about the guy that got his long hair or long shirt sucked into the backpack blowers? LOL he came out oK but that had to hurt! And push mowers can be dangerous, on a wet slope or just dry slope, even level ground sometimes.
We are brave, daring courageous men, are we not? ;) :cool:

greenman
10-02-2002, 09:53 PM
good point Bush Hog Boy.

Darryl G
10-02-2002, 10:09 PM
BushHogBoy - It's the insurance companies that dictate the rates and therefore what I do and don't do. I cannot trench, do tree work, plowing or any ladder work at the insurance rates I'm at.

The insurance companies know the injury rates/associated costs and bill accordingly.

Art Stubbs handy 58
10-02-2002, 10:33 PM
Fall Clean up,

I just put mine together and sent out around 100 today,

*Leaf Removal
*Gutter Cleaning
*Mulching
*Hauling Debris
*Tree & Shrub trimming
*Cleaning/Power Washing
These are just a few things you could do for your fall clean-ups

"we are brave, daring courageous men, are we not" What is up with that statement Bushhog Boy ?

Sometimes when we get older we know what our limitations are...

MOW ED
10-03-2002, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by BushHogBoy

We are brave, daring courageous men, are we not? ;) [/B]

This is what keeps me and my buddies in business in my other job.
Try and keep in mind that you may feel 10 feet tall, have a yard of junk, enough hair on your back to weave a rug but the key to life is making it from BushHogBoy to BushHogMAN!

No bad intent in my reply. Stay safe.

jmleaver
10-27-2002, 07:11 PM
what is the best way to charge customers? Hourly, per job and do you charge for removal or is that included?

LAWNGODFATHER
10-28-2002, 03:33 AM
Originally posted by BushHogBoy
Yea, like climbing a tree is more dangerous than driving a 50hp deisel 72" lawnmower at 13mph.

You only wish you knew what that was like, but then again I think that should be 15-20mph not 13mph.

I do hourly when leaves are concerned.

We "do not" do gutters.

However, leaf removal consists of;

Blowing leaves from all beds, drives, walks, corners, etc...

Then vacing them up with the Peco on a ZTR mower.

Then if dumped at the curb, vacing them in the truck and hauling them off.

We do not piickup sticks, or trash (vac gets the trash)

Sticks, twigs, branches etc..are extra. Remember we are doing leaf removal not a "Fall clean up". Even though it is hourly, we don't have the time to pick this junk up or able to haul it off.

This is done from Nov to March, but in spring we do a Spring clean up also that consists of picking up the debris also, but they must have a disposal place for it, cause none will fit on the truck.

That is why we don't pick that junk up.

We also offer Fall mulch, and trimming.

We do not give any kind of a package deal.

This is a "premium" service at a "premium" price.

This year, I might offer leaf mulching if things slow down.

John Gamba
10-28-2002, 05:44 AM
MDB
Get a set Of Rapters from tobey At coffils. mow Over the leaves Then Bag them. you will see a difference. If you don't Like them i'll buy them Off of You.
John.