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CaptainPike
04-19-2011, 11:33 PM
Do you charge extra for ditches?

I just gave out a quote and really I have to charge more for her ditch. Only way I can see cutting it is with a push mower and a weed eater, and that's going to cost me extra time.

If it were a ditch I could get my walk behind into, maybe I wouldn't ask extra. But this ditch is really steep.

SNAPPER MAN
04-20-2011, 12:50 AM
Just figure it into your overall price. Ditches don't take that long once your good with a trimmer.
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weeze
04-20-2011, 12:59 AM
yeah it depends on how much trimming is needed...almost every house i cut has some sort of ditch trimming needed. some are just around the pipes that go under the driveway and other yards are all the way down the whole side of the yard and on 3 sides of the yard and very steep lol...you can make good money on those kind of yards because alot of people aren't willing to do it. it's not that hard you just have to take your time and do it at a steady pace. get the scything action going...i hope i spelled that right lol...i usually go up one side of the ditch then back down the other...if it's a small ditch you can walk right down the middle swinging the trimmer left and right in a curving motion following the contour of the ditch.

Richard Martin
04-20-2011, 05:36 AM
If you have long ditches and don't want to spend all day with a trimmer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yyoJU49-68

wvaughn7
04-20-2011, 10:38 AM
If you have long ditches and don't want to spend all day with a trimmer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yyoJU49-68

That seems super safe with the discharge pointing directly at the guys face and him staring straight back at it haha

weeze
04-20-2011, 12:12 PM
If you have long ditches and don't want to spend all day with a trimmer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yyoJU49-68

that's not much of a ditch lol...you could mow that with the mower itself

alexschultz1
04-20-2011, 01:01 PM
i want one...

ChristianJ318
04-20-2011, 05:13 PM
I charge a little extra for really steep ditches that have to be completely trimmed and I tell the customer why its more when I give my quote. They have all completely understood the extra $5 -$15 charge but most of my customers have done their own lawns at some point in the past and already know what a pita it is.

Think Green
04-20-2011, 05:18 PM
Pike,
Yes, charge extra for ditches.........shuffle it into the overall total per cut or for twice a month whichever you do.
I don't care how good you are with a line trimmer, the swaying motion of doing ditches is hell on your back and hips. Anyone who has been doing this line of work more than 5 years will chime in. After 19 years for me, I feel every inch of all of the ditch banks I have cut in my time. I have a 25' X 300' ditch to cut once a month. It is brutal.

Richard Martin
04-20-2011, 07:55 PM
That seems super safe with the discharge pointing directly at the guys face and him staring straight back at it haha

Nah. It has the deflector that points down and back on it. The tire on the Dixie does get dirty though. :)

Richard Martin
04-20-2011, 07:58 PM
that's not much of a ditch lol...you could mow that with the mower itself

Um hmmm. Tried that first. Can't walk in the bottom of the ditch. It appears to be dry but you sink right in up to your knees. There's also 750 feet of that ditch there. It's a whole lot easier with the ditch mower.

weeze
04-20-2011, 09:58 PM
i'll post some pictures of ditches when i get around to it. then you'll see what a ditch is lol. a ditch has to be trimmed or sprayed with round up. you can't go over it with a mower. those are small ditches. i'm referring to really big steep ditches.

Richard Martin
04-21-2011, 03:08 AM
i'll post some pictures of ditches when i get around to it. then you'll see what a ditch is lol. a ditch has to be trimmed or sprayed with round up. you can't go over it with a mower. those are small ditches. i'm referring to really big steep ditches.

I don't really care about your ditches. Those are your problem. The OP asked for a solution without giving any specifics about the job. I gave one. What have you contributed to this thread besides giving me a hard time and belittling a tool I use? The arm on the ditch mower is also adjustable and can go down into a ditch about 4 feet deep. I had it adjusted to it's shortest length for my ditches.

KINGMADE
04-21-2011, 03:35 AM
I don't really care about your ditches. Those are your problem. The OP asked for a solution without giving any specifics about the job. I gave one. What have you contributed to this thread besides giving me a hard time and belittling a tool I use? The arm on the ditch mower is also adjustable and can go down into a ditch about 4 feet deep. I had it adjusted to it's shortest length for my ditches.

Is that custom made or is there a company selling the arm?

Richard Martin
04-21-2011, 04:13 AM
Is that custom made or is there a company selling the arm?

The arm consists of 2 parts. The yellow portion is the arm from a Peco Z-Trimmer. The black portion is just a standard friction trailer antisway bar. Just mount the Z-Trimmer arm to your deck. Remove the trimmer motor and chuck it in the trash or put it on a shelf or whatever. The friction sway bar comes with 2 balls. Mount one to the Z-Trimmer arm where the electric motor was and the other one on the front right side of the lightest pushmower you can find. Attach the sway bar and you have a ditch mower.

I added a rollover switch to the pushmower for added safety in case it does tip over. I also used 2 stroke mix gas. You should also only make right hand turns when the ditch mower is attached. The longer the ditch the more you'll love the setup. I always had people stopping and asking me where I got it whenever I used it so it must not be too bad of an idea.

Tennesseepowerstroke
04-21-2011, 10:08 AM
The arm consists of 2 parts. The yellow portion is the arm from a Peco Z-Trimmer. The black portion is just a standard friction trailer antisway bar. Just mount the Z-Trimmer arm to your deck. Remove the trimmer motor and chuck it in the trash or put it on a shelf or whatever. The friction sway bar comes with 2 balls. Mount one to the Z-Trimmer arm where the electric motor was and the other one on the front right side of the lightest pushmower you can find. Attach the sway bar and you have a ditch mower.

I added a rollover switch to the pushmower for added safety in case it does tip over. I also used 2 stroke mix gas. You should also only make right hand turns when the ditch mower is attached. The longer the ditch the more you'll love the setup. I always had people stopping and asking me where I got it whenever I used it so it must not be too bad of an idea.

Why do use 2 stroke mix gas with the Kawasaki engine? Isn't that engine pressure lubed?

Richard Martin
04-21-2011, 03:19 PM
Why do use 2 stroke mix gas with the Kawasaki engine? Isn't that engine pressure lubed?

Habit. I used a 30 year old Techumseh for the job before I put the Kawi on it.

weeze
04-22-2011, 11:58 PM
ok man the OP was talking about really steep ditches...the one you showed didn't look steep to me...but no matter...i wasn't trying to belittle you was just saying that that wasn't a big ditch...anyways forget all that...here's some "ditches" i had to trim today. I still have no idea why they have shrubs in the ditch at that one house lol...i guess they washed down there at some point. the first 5 pics are all from the same house...they have a ditch all the way around on 3 sides of the yard...the last one is a commercial property next to the highway that i had to cleanup.

http://i56.tinypic.com/f02ope.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/70ie1k.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/25yunnq.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/2iivrx4.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/34ngxzm.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/aaymok.jpg

CaptainPike
04-23-2011, 11:37 AM
ok man the OP was talking about really steep ditches...the one you showed didn't look steep to me...but no matter...i wasn't trying to belittle you was just saying that that wasn't a big ditch...anyways forget all that...here's some "ditches" i had to trim today. I still have no idea why they have shrubs in the ditch at that one house lol...i guess they washed down there at some point. the first 5 pics are all from the same house...they have a ditch all the way around on 3 sides of the yard...the last one is a commercial property next to the highway that i had to cleanup.

http://i56.tinypic.com/f02ope.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/70ie1k.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/25yunnq.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/2iivrx4.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/34ngxzm.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/aaymok.jpg

The last one, how do you cut that one?

I could only imagine doing that with my string trimmer.

weeze
04-23-2011, 05:28 PM
yeah that is trimmer all the way...in real life the ditches are steeper than they look in the pics....you actually have to climb down in there to get the lower part of it lol...i'm gonna try to hit the lower part with roundup at some point to help out haha...it's not like it's a good looking ditch or anything so it won't matter