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1506cmo18
04-20-2011, 12:01 AM
I'm looking at purchasing either an echo power head or a stihl

Both are similar in price for power heads and attachment. Stihl is about 30$ more expensive for the setup I want.

One dealer who sells both Echo and Stihl says the echo PAS 225 has more torque then the Stihl KM55. Any truth to this? I've gone on Echo's website and have found nothing about torque.

Echo 225 is a 21cc motor and Stihl KM55 is a 27cc motor.

Also opinions on Echo and Stihl and which one you would buy.
Echo also has a high torque head, will this make up the difference in torque?

The attachments I'll be buying is a trimmer head and an edger.

Turf Commando
04-20-2011, 12:39 AM
Stihl trimmers have torque that echo can only imagine..

PLS-Tx
04-20-2011, 01:12 AM
Both the units you are looking at are underpowered. If it was me I would go with Stihl, in fact, we are in the process of changing from Echo to Stihl.

1506cmo18
04-20-2011, 01:17 AM
Both the units you are looking at are underpowered. If it was me I would go with Stihl, in fact, we are in the process of changing from Echo to Stihl.

I realize they are small and I'm looking at the bigger models but it doesn't seem right that a smaller cc motor has more torque

the km55-km110 there is only a 4 cc difference

Alan0354
04-20-2011, 02:51 AM
I realize they are small and I'm looking at the bigger models but it doesn't seem right that a smaller cc motor has more torque

the km55-km110 there is only a 4 cc difference

6cc difference. More important the Stihl is almost 30% bigger in displacement. I know the little Echo 21cc is powerful for it's size, but I am willing to bet the Stihl is more powerful.

I think the salesman don't know what he is talking about. Don't you think 21c is a little small as an edger? I am usually pro Echo, but building a multi-tool system base on a 21cc head??!! I would go with Stihl KM55. It is up to you whether you want to step up to the PAS 265 or KM90, that will depend on your budget. But If I were you, I would pay a little more to have a bigger start!!

mnglocker
04-20-2011, 03:32 AM
Go for the Echo PAS 265 if you're doing a multi-tool set up. I have one and it's a torque monster.

I've got the trimmer head, edger, hedger and pole saw for it. No complaints in the power department.

Richard Martin
04-20-2011, 05:20 AM
Given 2 engines with the same displacement and compression, the engine with the longer stroke usually has more torque. The engine with the shorter stroke has more horsepower. Final drive ratios can also affect torque but not horsepower.

Horsepower is how fast you can go. Torque is how much load you can move.

Km81
04-20-2011, 07:14 AM
There is no replacement for displacement!

topsites
04-20-2011, 08:44 AM
Echo has more torque.

dishboy
04-20-2011, 09:37 AM
There is no replacement for displacement!

Yes their is , it's called boost.

PLS-Tx
04-21-2011, 12:06 AM
Really I don't care how much torque Echo has, what good does it do it they are hard to start.

All our Stihl's are easy to start and run great.

tacoma200
04-21-2011, 12:18 AM
I better not try an Echo. I am so happy with the light weight, easy start, low noise, ease of storage of the BR600 that I am not looking for a better one. It is so easy to use I will often grab it instead of the hand held for even small jobs. There are more powerful blowers and maybe better but the Stihl isn't bad. I'm sure the Echo is a good blower.

TurnerLawn&Landscape
04-21-2011, 12:41 AM
echo 265 is the way to go brow

tacoma200
04-21-2011, 12:53 AM
I better not try an Echo. I am so happy with the light weight, easy start, low noise, ease of storage of the BR600 that I am not looking for a better one. It is so easy to use I will often grab it instead of the hand held for even small jobs. There are more powerful blowers and maybe better but the Stihl isn't bad. I'm sure the Echo is a good blower.

sorry wrong post

mnglocker
04-21-2011, 01:31 AM
sorry wrong post

BTW my Echo PB770t starts up in 1 or 2 pulls every time.

1506cmo18
04-23-2011, 11:03 PM
does any one know where i can find specs on echo to see how much power?

Is an echo 265 equivalent to stihl's km55? same CC's, big difference in price

h2oskier
04-23-2011, 11:20 PM
Eh just hook up the nitrous bottle to it. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

jricker
05-16-2011, 10:05 PM
dont buy 4 mix stuff!!

ed2hess
05-16-2011, 10:56 PM
Why not just go up a step to the Echo 265 power head then you will be sure you have enough to do whatever you are doing. Reading all these spec and debating them is a:sleeping:

Snyder's Lawn Inc
05-16-2011, 11:29 PM
I haven t seen a Echo worth having

FuturePilot4u
05-16-2011, 11:44 PM
My echos start easy I can get 1 pull start all the time if I want to but its quicked to just do 2 quik pulls
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cps
05-18-2011, 02:29 AM
Two weeks ago I picked up an Echo PAS265, the guys liked it so much I just picked up a second one.

cole32
05-20-2011, 02:42 PM
Echo has no torque at all, get a stihl, you will be happy you did.

Johnny test
05-20-2011, 06:26 PM
I like both, Stihl is the best obviously... but Echo is dam good.

1506cmo18
05-20-2011, 07:22 PM
bought an echo...will see how she goes, so far so good

1506cmo18
05-24-2011, 01:40 PM
Can i use attachment off a ryobi setup or similar? or do I have to stick with echos attachments?

CJanes40
05-24-2011, 04:20 PM
I have the Echo 266 and use the edger and tiller attachments regularly, I demo'd the Stihl not long ago, for the tiller attachment the Stihl was better definately had more torque

1506cmo18
05-24-2011, 06:56 PM
What about the attachments...

Cheap universal attachment fit on an echo?? I'm looking at the tiller for 89$ vs 299$ echo one....going to be used twice a year