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Mow&Snow
10-05-2002, 05:04 PM
What do you guys use for screed rails?

neighborguy
10-05-2002, 05:56 PM
We use one inch steel pipes. Just dig a shallow trench and set them to height, screed, and then fill in the trench with stone after you remove the pipe.

Mow&Snow
10-05-2002, 09:47 PM
u just set the pipes in the ditch? do u stake them down at all?

Lanelle
10-05-2002, 10:00 PM
Why would you stake them?

heygrassman
10-05-2002, 10:29 PM
pvc works as well. 1 or 1.5"

paul
10-05-2002, 11:04 PM
For pavers or walls??

Stonehenge
10-05-2002, 11:42 PM
No PVC for us - too flexible. 1" steel for us.

ianc
10-06-2002, 07:49 AM
I use the fence top rails - they are 1-1/4" (cheap-ridged) and have a fluted end
that slides into the next rail - so you can setup a good run

Katwalk
10-06-2002, 08:07 AM
We also use 1" steel because they don't flex. Used to use pvc and realized that we couldn't keep it consisently flat.

paul
10-06-2002, 08:29 AM
It all depends on the job, we use a rail system for retaining walls called speed base. We also have a rail system for large paver jobs that screeds gravel and sand. Smaller paver jobs we use 1' iron pipes.

Katwalk
10-06-2002, 08:34 AM
Paul, would I be able to find info on the wall speed rails if I did a search or could you give me any info. 99% of our walk/patio work is less that 1000 square.

paul
10-06-2002, 08:47 AM
The manufacture of Speed Base is no longer in business :(

steveair
10-06-2002, 09:07 PM
Hello,

I use to only use 1 inch steel rails, electric conduit, very heavy.

Now I've switched to the 1 1/4 top fence rails......like Ianc. I like the ability to connect the rail for longer runs and plus they are a bit cheaper. I usually end up cutting them to fit each job, which works out very well.

I'm not exactly happy they are over 1 inch though.

Does any one have any ideas on a 1 inch rail that connect? The electric conduit has threded ends, but the female end is fatter than the pipe and catches the screed bar when pulling. plus, once they get dust in them, they are a real pain to screw together/apart.

How bout screed bars? What is everyone using? I finally had it with wood and spent the money on some nice magnesian screeds. I just have to save up a little to get a few more sizes. I only have a 12' and a 6', which work, but it would nice to have a few more.

steve

paul
10-06-2002, 09:12 PM
Steveair here's a quick tip on pipe. Weld a section of 3/4" pipe to the inside of the 1" that way you can have a quick connection like fence posts. You may have to hunt around for the right pipe but it's not hard to do.

Mow&Snow
10-06-2002, 09:31 PM
That's a great idea Paul. I never thought of that, but it sounds like it would work great. Is that what u use?

paul
10-06-2002, 09:39 PM
For jobs under 1000 sq ft or jobs that have lots of grade changes pipe is the easiest. but screed rails are the only way to do larger jobs. bigger jobs that need precise crowns or have the area to use rail systems things go much faster. one set up for gravel then raise the cutting edge for sand, no pipe marks to trowel out:)