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ant
10-07-2002, 07:23 PM
total of 6" of rain all summer.
i blamed it on the drought.

paul
10-07-2002, 07:33 PM
Did you plant it? I don't see much problem under it from the picture (grass is green around it). Lack of water, improper planting, too much salt from over the winter. Just some thoughts.......

KenH
10-07-2002, 09:06 PM
Looks really close to the house. Roots can be under walkway. A combination of these plus the heat would be my guess. Is the other one showing anything??

soccer coach
10-07-2002, 09:39 PM
What wrong with it? It's dead:D . Sorry I couldn't resist. Does it have bag worm sacks on it? I would guess that to be the problem or mites. Drought was not the problem. We sell a preventative application of hortacultural oil to eliminate or at least reduce bag worms. ;)

JimLewis
10-08-2002, 02:01 AM
Man, that's tough to say without knowing more about it.

Was it planted recently (e.g. within the last year) or has it been there for several years? It looks like it's been there for a while. So for it to just die all of a sudden would be curious.

If it were just planted, it could be it just didn't take for whatever reason. It may not have been watered enough. May not have prepared the soil well enough. Not enough fertilizer. No fertilizer. Root ball was broken when installing it.

If it has been there are while and suddenly died like this, that's even harder to diagnose. Could be insects or disease. Would have been nicer to see a picture of it AS it was dying to help determine that. But if it was there for years and was fairly established, I doubt drought would just kill it and not effect the other tree at all. That doesn't make sense.

Often, it doesn't matter why it died. When people ask me and I am not sure why their tree or plant died. I just tell them, "Well, it could be a lot of things. It's hard to say this late in the game. We'd have to take it to a horticulture specialist at a nursery and even then they may not be able to tell. But it's definitely no good as it is. And we warranty all of the plants we install. Would you like me to replace it for you?"

LawnLad
10-09-2002, 12:22 PM
The two plants look different... the live bush looks like a taxus, maybe capitata. Single trunk, little wider. The dead bush looks like arborvitae - multi trunked and more upright. Could be mites... can't tell really.

Kate Butler
10-09-2002, 09:57 PM
It's next to the front door - dog(s) perhaps?

TurfGuyTX
10-09-2002, 10:26 PM
My guess would be mites, but really hard to tell without more info and a closer picture.

ipm
10-09-2002, 10:40 PM
I am with you guys. I would say it is mites. If it is a water problem they usually brown form the inside out. Is it an Arb???

Darryl G
10-10-2002, 12:54 AM
Duh - This is an easy one. I see from the date on the picture that it was taken on Jan 1. It's just got a hangover from New Year Eve. You know how we tend to feel a little green, well plants feel a little brown. Just pour some coffee grounds around it and it should be fine.:D

lawnstudent
10-10-2002, 07:11 PM
Common pests and diseases of Thuja (Arborvitae):

Catepillars, bark beetle, weevils, mites, and scale insects. Butt rot, twig dieback, gray mold, mushroom root rot, and needle blight.

Cultural problems:

Salt damage, drought, damaged/girdled vascular cambium, herbicide overspray.

Any more information/observations other than this photo?

jim

CMerLand
10-11-2002, 11:14 AM
Im with you on this one ant. It looks like drought death to me and you see alot of it here in NJ. Look for bagworm and mites but probably just gave up the will to live.

And it likely wasnt this years drought that killed it, just the one that finished it off. We have been under drought since probably 97 with below average rainfall. Were it not for hurricane FLOYD back in 99 to recharge the ground water we probably would have been in restrictions much longer.

Alot of mature trees and shrubs are stressed or dying out from the cumlative effect of these below average rainfall conditions. It just takes longer for these plants to show the damages caused from it.

CMerrick

KenH
10-11-2002, 09:32 PM
Im telling you, it is drought damage. The tree is also probably under the overhang, which doesnt help nor does the heat from the sidewalk. If it were insects or disease, slow decline would have been noticed and/ or the other tree would have been affected....assuming they are both arbs.

summitgroundskeeping
11-20-2002, 03:43 PM
Just from what I have learned here at school... I would suspect the roots are damaged. Hard to tell by the photo though. Or (don't laugh) is that neighborhood built on an old landfill.

summitgroundskeeping
11-20-2002, 03:46 PM
notice any damage before this year... did it suddenly happen, when was it palnted, and digging go on around the plant, which way does it face?????? Help us out a little.

joshua
11-22-2002, 02:19 AM
looks like spider mites. doubt you can see them now but next time you start to see something like that get a white piece of paper cut a clipping and tap it on the paper and look for very very very little red bugs. most likely you'll have you smear you hand on the paper and look for red streaks. good luck

turfman59
12-02-2002, 09:27 AM
It may be dead, but look at the great oppurtunity for you getting rid of it. I would almost bet that theres one on the other side of the door. Looks like a homeowner landscape design putting arborvitaes on each side of the front door posted like centinels or two bouncers at the front door of a bar. To me its had a long life, and its time for it to go. Just my 2 cents