23 Kawasaki / Canister Filter??? HELP!

[SLS]

Here is my problem:

I finally called my Exmark dealer and ordered the Canister Air Filter upgrade for my 23 hp Kawasaki.

I was previously told by this dealer, and others here at Lawnsite, that this package is now available.

My dealer asked for the 'engine code' and said it was necessary info to get the correct filter. My engine code is: FH680D-AS05. This is a 23 hp horizonal-shaft air-cooled engine and is on a 2001 Lazer Z w/ 60" deck. The engine code (& serial#) is printed on a little white sticker on the engine...next to the oil drain gizmo.

My dealer called this morning to tell me that Kawasaki does NOT offer a kit for this particular engine yet. Boo Hoo!

Here is where I need your help:

If any of you fellow members have a 23 Kaw with this canister filter upgrade would you please check your engine code for me? I want to make sure my dealer didn't talk to someone who was misinformed, or recieve a "blow-off" from his supplier just because they did not have it in stock or did not want to bother with special ordering it......this happens sometimes.

My dealer, although I adore him, does not seem to get good info. I ordered the 'anti-blowout baffle' at the same time...and he said "Whats that? I've never heard of it. Do you mean the cover plate for the discharge opening?" Luckily, 65hoss has posted the Exmark part number (and the Service Bulletin #) so I was able to update him on the anti-blowout baffle situation...and get mine. Whew! Thanks, 65hoss!

As this is a popular Kaw engine I have my suspicions...and I want this upgrade badly...regardless of where I obtain it from.

Thanks for reading this post and any help/replies/alternatives would be greatly appreciated. :)

[65hoss]

Call Dustin or Fred at exmark and get them to help you. The filter is made by another company I believe, so it may not be avaliable via Kawi.


Tell them I said lunch is over and get back to work. :D
Eric

[Richard Martin]

We ran into the same brick wall today. Exmark passed the buck to Kawasaki and Kawasaki said it may be available in the spring. They're having trouble getting the carb calibration correct and it's not a high priority project for them. The Kawasaki rep said "Just change the filter more often".

[Floridalandcare]

Are you talking about the Donalson Filter??I just hd one put on my Z 23 Kawa .For 150.00. Thats with the hardware and changing the float.Let me know.

[65hoss]

There is 2 different kits. One comes with new jets for the carb, the other you must change the carb. Guess which kit cost more? Guess which one I must have? You got it. The most expensive one, I must have the one with new carb for mine. I haven't tried to get it yet. Dustin did give me a part number for the one I need. Thus the reason I suggest calling him or Fred.

[odin]

we got two 23 kawi we want the filter for. we plan on running these puppies to they drop.
Hopeing to get em on for this upcomeing leaf season

[SLS]

Thanks you for all of your replies to this thread. :)

Yep, like 65hoss said, there are apparently two different kits for the 23 Kasasaki. I posted this same topic over in the Exmark forum and, naturally, Terry and the exmark team responded quickly. Here's the thread:

http://lawnsite.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35176

Looks like I too need the kit that comes with the new carb. Just for our info I'm going to contact my dealer and get the price (prices) of the kit (kits).



Floridalandcare:

Yes, this is a 2 (or 3) stage canister filter, like the Donelson. I'm not sure who actually makes it (Donelson, Enginaire, Nelson...???). Could you check the 'engine code' sticker on your engine and see if it is different than mine? Any info, part numbers, name of manufacturer, ect. would be nice to have on this thread...seems a lot of us here are wanting to do this upgrade and could maybe use this info.


Thanks a bunch , guys! Hopefully we'll be able to get our fancy filters! :D

[Richard Martin]

Using the info provided by 65hoss and the Exmark Forum my buddy was finally able to order the canister filter for his Kawasaki. His needed the carb and the whole kit came in at $430.00.

[Envy Lawn Service]

Originally posted by Richard Martin
His needed the carb and the whole kit came in at $430.00.

Man!!! Glad I thought about searching for this stuff! I was curious what it would cost to add a canister filter to a Kawi. OUCH !!!

[captdevo]

jeez..............i posted that i can offer these for much cheaper!!!!

wow, i could've saved you $$$$$$$


it's a very simple swap too!!


if anyone wants to save $$$ for heavy duty filter systems for Kohler, Kawasaki, Robin, Briggs, Kubota, Lambordini, Onan, Yanmar, Honda and Generac, drop me a line with specs!!


i'll even assist in mounting!!!


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BTW.... some require jets and some require complete carbs, everything will be included with my kits....there is no float change!!!

[captdevo]

the kit for FH680D-AS05 #99999-7008 lists for $430, i sell for $350 delivered to your door

*this kit includes a new carb. this kit is for as01, as04, as05, as06, as07, as08, as09, as10, as11, as12

all other FH680's some FH641's and some FH721's have new jets, it is #99999-7007 i sell for $200

attached is the kit info and my prices!!!! Free Shipping!!

[Envy Lawn Service]

Captdevo,

That was good of you to take the time to post those prices. This way we all know what the cost is to add one to those engines that didn't come with one.

Thanks

[Richard Martin]

Dave, can you convert that pic to jpeg or gif. I (and I'm sure many others here) don't have a program that recognizes XLS files.

Thanks

[captdevo]

thanks for bringing that up Richard.



HEAVY DUTY AIR CLEANER KITS

Part # Description Price
7007 jets $200
7008 carb. $350
7010 carb. $400
7011 carb. $400
7012 jets $160
CONTENTS

FILTER
BRACKET
GASKETS
CAP
BOLTS
CARB. 7008,7010, 7011
INTAKE PIPE
INSULATOR
CHOKE LINK
JETS 7007 & 7012
TUBE
MANUAL

KIT MODEL #
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#7007
FH641 AS10 AS11 AS12 AS13 AS16 AS17 AS18 AS50 AS60 BS01
BS05 BS08 BS09 BS10 BS11 BS12 BS13 BS16 BS18 BS50
BG60 CS01 CS04 CS05 CS06 CS08 CS09 DS04 DS06 DS08
DS09 ES08

FH680 AS14 AS15 AS16 AS17 AS18 AS1 BS01 BS04 BS05 BS06
BS08 BS10 BS11 BS12 BS13 BS14 BS15 BS16 BS17 BS18
BS19 CS01 CS04 CS05 CS06 CS07 CS08 CS10 CS11 CS12
CS13 CS14 DS07 DS10 DS12 DS14 ES10

FH721 AS01 AS04 AS05 AS06 AS07 AS08 AS09 AS11 AS12 AS13
AS14 AS15 BS01 BS04 BS05 BS06 BS07 BS08 BS09 BS11
BS12 BS13 BS14 BS15 CS09 CS12
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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#7008
FH680 AS01 AS04 AS05 AS06 AS07 AS08 AS09 AS10 AS11 AS12
AS13 BS07 BS09
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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#7010
FH641 AS01 AS04 AS05 AS06 AS08 AS09 BS04 BS06
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------
#7011
FH601 AS01 AS05 AS06 AS07 AS08 AS09 AS10 AS11 AS12 BS06
BS08 BS11
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------
#7012
FH601 AS14 AS17 AS18 AS19 AS20 AS21 BS01 BS05 BS07 BS09
BS10 BS12 BS14 BS17 BS18 BS19 BS20 BS21 CS01 CS05
CS06 CS07 CS08 CS09 CS10 CS11 CS12 DS06 DS08 DS11
ES06 ES11 FS06

[captdevo]

pic

[Barkleymut]

I just bought a new 2002 Exmark Lazer HP 52" w/23 Kawi. I am very interested in the canister air filter and would like to know how hard it is to install new jets? Momma didn't raise no mechanic.

[Barkleymut]

Just looked at the Enginaire site. Is the only thing on the enginaire units thats different that Turbinator? I also noticed the plate on the bottom whereas the standard plate does allow airflow. Does this model just use the standard air filters? Anyone use the Enginaire on the 23 Kawi?

[morturf]

I have one on a 19 hp Kawi. I have not used it much but it works so far. I did a few leaf cleanups last fall and it worked much better than the regular on. And considering that I had to replace the airfilter about every 2 weeks in leaf season the 100 bucks I spent on the enginaire will make the filter last at least 2 times as long it will be worth it. Give it a try,
Mike