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AMCAT
05-23-2011, 10:53 AM
Our local NH dealer brought in an L220 (new series NH) and a friend of mine had it on Demo he drove it over to my place to hook up the hydraulic flowmeter to check if The high flow is what NH says it is supposed to be for GPM & PSI .. that seemed fine but the hydraulic oil got hot real quick and even from just driving few KM down the road in 2 speed the hydraulic oil Temp Warning came on :cry: Has anyone else come accross this issue ?? Seems like the cooling capacity is not there ..:confused:

bobcat_ron
05-23-2011, 03:20 PM
Maybe their fan system just needs to be tweaked, or the dealer sucks balls at proper PDI.
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ksss
05-23-2011, 06:46 PM
Maybe their fan system just needs to be tweaked, or the dealer sucks balls at proper PDI.
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I would put in a vote for the later. The CASE mechanics here have not yet been to school to learn how to work on these machines yet. Granted they have not received any new machines yet but I bet the machines get here before they know what to do with them. Just a hunch.

meets1
05-23-2011, 09:33 PM
Concrete crew here bought 4 new NH series skids. Everyone has had touble - there excuss the men in the shop have no idea yet on these new machines as what to do to tweak things.

I have to wonder though why by a NH machine when case makes them. Is there a big difference b/t the two machines? I figure if case makes NH then case must be the superior machine and the NH a knock off with a few details missing to reduce the price tag compared to case.

But I have the new S650 now so I gotta run this one for a few hours! I did love my past case machines but lost dealer in town and I wanted to stay close so it was either BC or NH.

Digdeep
05-25-2011, 06:22 PM
What kind of load were you putting on the flow meter...1000psi, 2000psi? This constant load could be what was causing this. I wouldn't really be too shocked since I've always thought NHs had marginal hydraulic capability anyway..small displacement gear pumps and low pressure settings. I don't think NH ever figured their machines as real hydraulic performers in the first place vs. their steryotypical agricultural roles. At least in my area.

AMCAT
05-25-2011, 06:51 PM
Were shifting the load somewhat but kept it 2000-2500 psi if we went up to 2800 psi where it started releiving the temp went up pertty fast

JDSKIDSTEER
05-26-2011, 07:18 AM
You should not have to tweek things and meter things when you PDA a machine. That should all e done when the first few hundred come off the line untill they get the line all set up right. Everyone has a few bugs that slip through when they have a new series come out. But true, the machines usualy come out before the training begins.

AEL
05-26-2011, 10:24 AM
Concrete crew here bought 4 new NH series skids. Everyone has had touble - there excuss the men in the shop have no idea yet on these new machines as what to do to tweak things.

I have to wonder though why by a NH machine when case makes them. Is there a big difference b/t the two machines? I figure if case makes NH then case must be the superior machine and the NH a knock off with a few details missing to reduce the price tag compared to case.

But I have the new S650 now so I gotta run this one for a few hours! I did love my past case machines but lost dealer in town and I wanted to stay close so it was either BC or NH.

The machines are made by CNH. Case and New Holland are the same company

ksss
05-26-2011, 12:44 PM
I think they were just flow checking the machine to see if the printed specs actually matched the machine. This was not done by the dealer.


Given this post, I spoke with the service manager and he has guys signed up for training but they will not be back before the machines arrive. He said they will bring in a product specialist to assist with setting up the new machines. I prefer that BIC do my PDI actually, don't know if that will happen.

Digdeep
05-26-2011, 03:05 PM
I prefer that BIC do my PDI actually, don't know if that will happen.

Good call. I wouldn't pay any money for what Case and NH are calling high-flow unless it was the BIC system. All CNH is doing is adding an additional 18cc (1.12cu in) 12gpm gear pump to combine flows so that they have a high flow. Saves a ton of money from an OEM standpoint but is the poorman's way of of getting a real high flow system.:nono:

ksss
05-26-2011, 07:05 PM
Good call. I wouldn't pay any money for what Case and NH are calling high-flow unless it was the BIC system. All CNH is doing is adding an additional 18cc (1.12cu in) 12gpm gear pump to combine flows so that they have a high flow. Saves a ton of money from an OEM standpoint but is the poorman's way of of getting a real high flow system.:nono:


I was refering to BIC doing the PDI. As for the high flow, I ordered the machine with the standard high flow. I am not looking to run the mulcher with it, just the snow blower or the Davco type mower I have that is high flow. Your right the stock high flow is like 33 gpm nothing impressive about it, but given what I want it to do it would be fine. When my 465 needs to be replaced, that machine will need the high output high flow. We will see at that time who came up with a better system BIC or CASE.

I did speak with BIC at Conexpo. They were interested in me giving them my machine to put a their extreme high flow kit on and test. It would not cost me anything. Some good and bad with that. Good you get a $5K system for free, downside your the test monkey and everything negative that goes with that. The build date of the TR320 is June 23rd. I will contact BIC and see if that time line works and check on particulars, might be something to think about.