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ommegang
05-28-2011, 11:24 PM
I have a 52" Ferris for larger properties. I also have to mow 8 city lots including 3 corner lots. My 19" standard push mowers gets old quick. What's the best value out there considering my application? I own and maintain rental properties. $2000 is what I would like to stay around. I sold my 48" Exmark in order to downgrade to a 36"

Thanks in advance for replies!

ProStreetCamaro
05-28-2011, 11:29 PM
Your not going to find any new 36" commercial units for $2000 unless you go with a Chinese made red hawk.

VanAllen's Lawn Service
05-29-2011, 12:04 AM
CRAIGSLIST!!!!! :weightlifter:

VanAllen's Lawn Service
05-29-2011, 12:07 AM
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/grd/2404142673.html

http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/grd/2403188959.html

http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/grd/2401067754.html

http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/grd/2356139481.html

:)

GPDesign1
05-29-2011, 11:09 AM
http://www.betteroutdoorproducts.com/index.asp?page=ProductDetails&Item=MOW-15KM-36

ommegang
05-31-2011, 04:26 PM
Alright, considering 0% financing for three years out there till July, perhaps $3000. I will look at Gravley, Exmark, and Husq, Bobcat. All belt drive.

Greg78
05-31-2011, 05:31 PM
Any reason you don't want to look at used? I picked up a 36" eXmark TTHP for $1200(also got a Stihl edger, trimmer and blower in the deal). Best walk behind I've had, dual hydro, easy to adjust height with a 15 HP Kawasaki.

ommegang
05-31-2011, 05:34 PM
How many hours/year on that Emark? I sold my 48" 1998 for $800 so, I don't mind spending a littler money. Would love to stay aoriund $1200 like you though. What is TTHP? Turf Tracer Horse power?

Greg78
05-31-2011, 05:40 PM
How many hours/year on that Emark? I sold my 48" 1998 for $800 so, I don't mind spending a littler money. Would love to stay aoriund $1200 like you though.

Didn't have an hour meter judging from the looks I'd say 500-700 hours. Got it in 2009 it is 2001 model. I have used it every day since then, had to replace the coil and thats it.

TTHP is Turf Tracer HP which is the S series now. http://exmark.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProductType=7

Greg78
05-31-2011, 05:46 PM
Are you looking for gear drive or hydro? Do you change height a lot? Pistol grips okay?

ommegang
05-31-2011, 05:50 PM
Well, gear drive is cheaper. I don't have any experience except pistol grips.

Greg78
05-31-2011, 05:56 PM
Well, gear drive is cheaper. I don't have any experience except pistol grips.

Did you have any problems with the pistol grips? I know some people are bothered by them.

ommegang
05-31-2011, 06:01 PM
No, I don't spend enough time on it to really matter. And, simple height adjustment is nice but, relative to price. I gather you have a reccomendation or mower to offer??

Greg78
05-31-2011, 06:10 PM
No, I don't spend enough time on it to really matter. And, simple height adjustment is nice but, relative to price. I gather you have a reccomendation or mower to offer??

Was just looking through Milwaukee craigslist. Looks like there are a couple prospects.

ommegang
05-31-2011, 06:12 PM
yeah, i look myself. nothing that perks my interest at present.

Greg78
05-31-2011, 06:22 PM
yeah, i look myself. nothing that perks my interest at present.

You might want to check out Ariens. http://www.homedepot.com/Outdoors-Outdoor-Power-Equipment-Walk-Behind-Mowers-Self-Propelled-Mowers/h_d1/N-5yc1vZbxc3/R-202563251/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

Greg78
05-31-2011, 06:24 PM
You might want to check out Ariens. http://www.homedepot.com/Outdoors-Outdoor-Power-Equipment-Walk-Behind-Mowers-Self-Propelled-Mowers/h_d1/N-5yc1vZbxc3/R-202563251/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

I believe they are the same as Gravely, so you could check them out as well.
http://speedway-sales-service.gravelymower.com/seriespage/pro-walk-gear-drive/?uid=ee2f7461-cc67-4512-9d5b-d127c738c081&vid=49970e65-6baf-41ce-bdf9-2fc707a4e33b&promocode=DEF&vcd=_dnnrereeenja&lidx=0&lidx=0&lidx=0

ommegang
05-31-2011, 06:30 PM
I just got three quotes for new: Ferris 36" hydrocut $3200(single hydro). Exmark 36" Metro(belt drive) $3250 Exmark 32" $2500 ( rebate no zero financing) Ferris I like the electric start and easy height adjustment whereas Exmak not so. But, resale on a single hydro, probably homeowner market.

ommegang
05-31-2011, 06:48 PM
And, $3250 for 36" Gravely new.NO 0% either. Electric start and crank deck adjstment are nice features for the same $ as Exmark.

ommegang
05-31-2011, 07:17 PM
I did just find a 32" Bobcat 2006 for $800 at a dealer. Just has a B&S motor. Said the guy blew out his knee and was sitting for a couple of years idle. Sounds great except for the B&S motor.

ProStreetCamaro
05-31-2011, 08:34 PM
I just paid $2990 for my new 2011 Gravely 36G. Your dealer is trying to get full msrp.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/prostreetcamaro/P1050852.jpg

ommegang
06-01-2011, 09:34 AM
I seen your thread. That's nice looking. How did you know what full MSRP was?

ProStreetCamaro
06-01-2011, 02:36 PM
I seen your thread. That's nice looking. How did you know what full MSRP was?


My dealer told me what it was. I want to say it was $3300 for the 36G.

RLS24
06-01-2011, 04:39 PM
honestly, just get a used belt drive one off CL. Like a Scag, eXmark or a Lesco. They are all pretty much the same basic design, and a lot of the guys (engine, tranny...) are all the same so parts are readily available. I have found that very few people are using a 36" as their main mower, and used ones you find usually have very low hours and are in very good shape. I know when I'm mowing by myself (which is most of the time) I very seldom use my 36" mower. When I do, it is absolutely indispensable though. Its not uncommon to see guys running around with 10+ year old 36" belt drive WBs on the trailer, just because they last so long. I would stick with a slightly used make of what I mentioned above, those seem to be the most bomb-proof ones around here anyways. It should last you for years and years.

TheMadOne
06-01-2011, 09:35 PM
Just bought a new 36" Exmark Metro with the ECS handles from the local dealer for 3400.00 out the door + tax. Nice little mower to fill a niche very similar to the one you speak of. Gear drive, but hydro is going to add considerable mark up to a mower. Been a while since I've wrestled with a gear drive, but this Metro is a very pleasant surprise.

Reputable company, reputable & reliable mower, local dealer support should there be any issues. Looked at a 2010 demo/used same mower at another local dealer was asking $2700.00, but decided I wanted to have the new one. So far it's been doing everything I ask of it without a single issue, mowed down an overgrown low angle drainage ditch without a hitch yesterday. Grass was wet, ground was soft, grass was average of 2' tall, blew through it beautifully.

Photos here:

http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=222221&d=1306368912

http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=222222&d=1306369041

jiggz
06-01-2011, 09:47 PM
bobcat beltdrive.. its going to be in the mid 3's though..cleepest and best

ommegang
06-02-2011, 09:54 AM
I seen this 36" Bobcat new for $2800. And, they should have 0 financing also for another $175. May be able to avoid taxes by purchasing online , but then probably cash.

http://www.russopower.com/products/bob-cat-commericial-gdwalk-behind-mower-933007-36-inch

OR, sell my Ferris 52" with 50 hrs and consider a stand-on 36" but that would probably get old with 3 acres at home and about 2 acres at an apartement compex, 4 townhouses in a row, and another acre house in addition to the 8 city lots, including 3 corners. I do have 2 42" craftsman riders too.

Chevy z71
06-02-2011, 11:26 AM
A brand new 36inch scag belt drive would be 3,400$$.

ommegang
06-02-2011, 11:41 AM
Scag 36" w/ B&S $2700

http://www.russopower.com/products/scag-commercial-belt-drive-walk-behind-mower-sfw36-16bv/

I compared the Scag 48" wow - $700 difference b/w B&S vs Kawi. B&S is $700 less of a product?

ProStreetCamaro
06-02-2011, 08:12 PM
Scag 36" w/ B&S $2700

http://www.russopower.com/products/scag-commercial-belt-drive-walk-behind-mower-sfw36-16bv/

I compared the Scag 48" wow - $700 difference b/w B&S vs Kawi. B&S is $700 less of a product?



That scag is a POS. It is more or less a homeowner mower. Even my 2 local scag dealers quoted me $2900 for that same unit and they both said the same thing. If it were them they wouldn't buy it. They said the scag 36" belt drive with the fixed advantage deck was a good machine but that one you posted was junk. Are you close to russo power? That bobcat would be my first choice and thats a good price for it.

ommegang
06-03-2011, 09:37 AM
Under two hours away. I wish more delaers would be internet savvy and be allowed to list prices. You can get the entire Ferris prices list e-mailed to you.

ommegang
06-04-2011, 04:31 PM
Just bought a new 36" Exmark Metro with the ECS handles from the local dealer for 3400.00 out the door + tax. Nice little mower to fill a niche very similar to the one you speak of. Gear drive, but hydro is going to add considerable mark up to a mower. Been a while since I've wrestled with a gear drive, but this Metro is a very pleasant surprise.

Reputable company, reputable & reliable mower, local dealer support should there be any issues. Looked at a 2010 demo/used same mower at another local dealer was asking $2700.00, but decided I wanted to have the new one. So far it's been doing everything I ask of it without a single issue, mowed down an overgrown low angle drainage ditch without a hitch yesterday. Grass was wet, ground was soft, grass was average of 2' tall, blew through it beautifully.

Photos here:

http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=222221&d=1306368912

http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=222222&d=1306369041



That looks sweet. I didn't realize they had that steering. I got my dealer to come down$100 to $3150 for the 36" Metro with 0 for three years. I'm contemplating a lesco hydro for the same money but cash outlay. Or the bobcat at$2800 with 0 for two years.

TheMadOne
06-04-2011, 08:41 PM
I looked at a Bobcat Classic Pro Belt drive with a 16HP KAWi, and was able to take it for a hands on demo at the dealer. Nice mower, dealer ended up about $100.00 higher than the Exmark, but that wasn't the only factor in my decision. I got to put hands on the 36" Metro, also a 16hp KAWi, with the ECS handles & do a few demo runs on the dealer's field. It was really smooth on the controls & was very comfortable to operate. I would suggest if you have a local dealer of any of the mowers you are looking at go put hands on it & take a test demo.

I had to make time to do so, but was very glad I did. So far the Metro has given good performance & an excellent cut. It even stripes fairly well "out of the box", only issue so far was the presence switch was a bit sensative at first. Small adjustment to the OPC at the switch & all is well, I really like my Scag Cub with the Honda 24hp well, have always been a little partial to Scag, but the Metro has opened up my mind a bit on the Exmark brand. I was even going to demo a new Scag 36", but after hands on the Metro I was sold for what I wanted it for.

Both the Bobcat & the Metro gear drives had what is called a reverse assist, not an instant reverse off the clutch handles like the older gear drives I had operated. I guess it's a newer "safety feature", you have to give them a little tug, then they gradually increase the amount of reverse force to full drive. I guess they have done this to make them more idiot proof & keep someone from backing one over themselves by not having control when they release the clutch brakes.

ommegang
06-08-2011, 10:08 AM
Offered $2500 on this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200598211357&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

but, got declined. So, went the cheap route. Picked this 2006 36" Bobcat up at a local dealer for $800. Said the guy had a bum knee for a year, so it sat. And, he had it a year or so too. Looks durable, even the 15.5HP B&S I/C motor - looks similiar to a Kawi motor. I don't like the saftey handles though. And the handle bars are a little higher than the Exmark but, I can live with creature discomforts my limited use. And, a fixed deck vs the four cotter pin adjustment on the Exmark. Didn't realize my green rolling rock can was on top.

PS: mowed with by buddy's new 52" 25HP Kohler Husqvarna yesterday. Boy, night and day vs my Ferris. I need to start appreciating my Ferris more. He said he paid six grand for it too. Jeez.

ProStreetCamaro
06-08-2011, 03:23 PM
Offered $2500 on this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200598211357&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

but, got declined. So, went the cheap route. Picked this 2006 36" Bobcat up at a local dealer for $800. Said the guy had a bum knee for a year, so it sat. And, he had it a year or so too. Looks durable, even the 15.5HP B&S I/C motor - looks similiar to a Kawi motor. I don't like the saftey handles though. And the handle bars are a little higher than the Exmark but, I can live with creature discomforts my limited use. And, a fixed deck vs the four cotter pin adjustment on the Exmark. Didn't realize my green rolling rock can was on top.

PS: mowed with by buddy's new 52" 25HP Kohler Husqvarna yesterday. Boy, night and day vs my Ferris. I need to start appreciating my Ferris more. He said he paid six grand for it too. Jeez.



Good choice o0n the bobcat. As long as the engine runs good and you maintain the engine well it should last you many years.