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who123
07-07-2011, 03:32 PM
Hello from the Oregon coast, Lincoln city, OR. Looking for others in the area, or in state to discuss Lawn Care with.:waving:

ots
01-25-2012, 06:54 PM
I'am in molalla

NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
01-25-2012, 06:58 PM
Southern Oregon here...

NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
01-29-2012, 02:16 PM
What would you like to discuss??

Hamatsa
01-30-2012, 01:56 AM
Rogue Valley...call my busness line if you want to chat.

headz77
03-06-2012, 02:47 AM
Pdx
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SouthValleyLandscapeMaint
11-12-2012, 10:35 PM
I know this thread is old but I havent been on here in FOREVER! I am in Southern Oregon

Gilbert503
11-25-2012, 07:34 PM
Salem OR
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NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
11-25-2012, 08:43 PM
I know this thread is old but I havent been on here in FOREVER! I am in Southern Oregon

So how did this year treat everyone? What's been some of your positives & negatives?

Gilbert503
11-25-2012, 08:54 PM
Picked up some good commercial accounts now waiting on some snow to start doing our snow removal services.
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SouthValleyLandscapeMaint
11-25-2012, 09:01 PM
This year was terrible to be quite honest. went from running 2 trucks to running by myself and not even being able to stay busy a 40 hour week. Oh well, theres always next year or if I had it my way getting out of this business would be great too but there arent too many other options out there. I didn't lose a single account due to work quality it was all due to price, people losing their jobs, moving away etc..... oh and one ******* that owned a bunch of my commercial properties that fired me because he was mad at my mom:dizzy:

NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
11-25-2012, 09:09 PM
Picked up some good commercial accounts now waiting on some snow to start doing our snow removal services.
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Snow removal in Salem? I didn't think they even got any snow besides that 1-2 days a year?

NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
11-25-2012, 09:13 PM
This year was terrible to be quite honest. went from running 2 trucks to running by myself and not even being able to stay busy a 40 hour week. Oh well, theres always next year or if I had it my way getting out of this business would be great too but there arent too many other options out there. I didn't lose a single account due to work quality it was all due to price, people losing their jobs, moving away etc..... oh and one ******* that owned a bunch of my commercial properties that fired me because he was mad at my mom:dizzy:

Oh that sucks man, I hate to hear that, but its happened to all of us, the pricing has been getting so competitive its getting ridiculous, I myself have had to lower my labor rate to obtain some accounts, but still a little profitable but not like it was 3-5 years ago for sure. Yeah its always best to not mix family/friends/acquaintances with business...

Gilbert503
11-25-2012, 09:14 PM
Yeah we already have contracts set for snow removal or ice control.
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NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
11-25-2012, 09:15 PM
Yeah we already have contracts set for snow removal or ice control.
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Oh that's cool, you never know when its needed, I grew up in Keizer....

Gilbert503
11-25-2012, 09:16 PM
I live in Salem
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Gilbert503
11-25-2012, 09:17 PM
But we service from Corvallis up to Vancouver Wa for landscape maintenance
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NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
11-25-2012, 09:19 PM
But we service from Corvallis up to Vancouver Wa for landscape maintenance
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That's a pretty big span, how's the market & competition up there? How big are you?

NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
11-25-2012, 09:27 PM
This year was terrible to be quite honest. went from running 2 trucks to running by myself and not even being able to stay busy a 40 hour week. Oh well, theres always next year or if I had it my way getting out of this business would be great too but there arent too many other options out there. I didn't lose a single account due to work quality it was all due to price, people losing their jobs, moving away etc..... oh and one ******* that owned a bunch of my commercial properties that fired me because he was mad at my mom:dizzy:

I went through this in 2010, I went from having 2 part time employees to working by myself again, and even to this day I do everything by myself, but I've been slowly building up the business again and have been considering an employee again, things sure aren't as profitable as they once were, but any work is adding to the gross revenue, etc...

Gilbert503
11-25-2012, 09:29 PM
A lot of competition. I ran 3 full times and 1 part time this year for the maintenance. Im hoping to add more employees next year since we just became license.
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NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
11-25-2012, 09:31 PM
A lot of competition. I ran 3 full times and 1 part time this year for the maintenance. Im hoping to add more employees next year since we just became license.
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Licensed as in you got an LCB license?

Gilbert503
11-25-2012, 09:31 PM
Yes
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NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
11-25-2012, 09:33 PM
Yes
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That's great, I've been looking into it not exactly to start doing Landscape installations but nice to have to do repairs as needed, how hard was the test?

NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
11-25-2012, 09:34 PM
What's the name of your business?

Gilbert503
11-25-2012, 09:35 PM
We just decide to hire someone that had it and we found someone that had just sold his business due to family problems.
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Gilbert503
11-25-2012, 09:36 PM
Great Yards Landscape
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NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
11-25-2012, 09:38 PM
We just decide to hire someone that had it and we found someone that had just sold his business due to family problems.
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Ohh gotcha, but nice to have I'm sure, give you the ability to do repairs without having to sub out work, etc...

Gilbert503
11-25-2012, 09:39 PM
GreatYardsLandscape.com
Website still not fully finish.
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Gilbert503
11-25-2012, 09:42 PM
Yes it does I'm getting ready to start promoting the construction. Plus I lost some bids because we weren't license
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NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
11-25-2012, 09:46 PM
Yes it does I'm getting ready to start promoting the construction. Plus I lost some bids because we weren't license
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Yeah I'm seeing that more and more, commercial properties are wanting an all in one company to handle all the outdoor landscaping, etc... I've talked my way around it a few times because I work with a licensed company I refer and/or sub out work to, but mostly they want to hire someone that can do it all

Gilbert503
11-25-2012, 09:54 PM
Yup that's right. Thats why I also had to become licensed since I'm looking to move my way more into the commercial field.
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Gilbert503
11-25-2012, 09:58 PM
One thing that had help me out is knowing someone that is a vendor for a landscape business.
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NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
11-25-2012, 10:02 PM
One thing that had help me out is knowing someone that is a vendor for a landscape business.
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What do you mean?

Gilbert503
11-25-2012, 10:07 PM
Big landscape company have a vendor a person that does all their bids for them. Like my self I'm not a big company but I do know someone that is vendor so when I get stuck or need help on getting a big bid ready I call him.
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NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
11-25-2012, 10:10 PM
Big landscape company have a vendor a person that does all their bids for them. Like my self I'm not a big company but I do know someone that is vendor so when I get stuck or need help on getting a big bid ready I call him.
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Ohh gotcha, that's always good to have allies in the business world...

SouthValleyLandscapeMaint
11-25-2012, 10:29 PM
Ya.... next year will be better. I will just bust my ass in the spring and hope for the best. The reason I lost all the commercial stuff was because I did a lot of work for a guy that happened to own the building my moms company was leasing. When they got into it he pulled all of his properties out from under ne with in a month. Totally blindsided me. I dont know if Id call the pricing competitive or just ridiculous. Seems like here in Southern Oregon ever guy the loses his job at McDonalds decides he is a landscaper. Throws a mower in his trunk an charges 10 a yard for hack job work but people are just glad its cheap. Then you or I shows up with a realistic bid and the customer looks at us like were on drugs.
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Gilbert503
11-25-2012, 10:33 PM
Ya.... next year will be better. I will just bust my ass in the spring and hope for the best. The reason I lost all the commercial stuff was because I did a lot of work for a guy that happened to own the building my moms company was leasing. When they got into it he pulled all of his properties out from under ne with in a month. Totally blindsided me. I dont know if Id call the pricing competitive or just ridiculous. Seems like here in Southern Oregon ever guy the loses his job at McDonalds decides he is a landscaper. Throws a mower in his trunk an charges 10 a yard for hack job work but people are just glad its cheap. Then you or I shows up with a realistic bid and the customer looks at us like were on drugs.
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I hate people that lowball they are cutting our prices.
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NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
11-25-2012, 10:39 PM
I hate people that lowball they are cutting our prices.
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Yeah for sure, its happening all around us though whether we like it or not, but its up to us licensed and insured "Businesses" to stick to our guns and be firm on our pricing methods, etc... These undercutting fly by night guys won't be around for the long run like I'm in business for the long haul.... But I gotta be honest, its not just small guys, its also some large companies as well bidding cheap to get a huge volume of work, sad but true as I've seen it several times recently on big property bids where i didn't win I asked to see the bids and who was awarded and for how much, and guess what It was one of the largest companies in town for a well lower price than my bid....

Gilbert503
11-25-2012, 10:43 PM
Big companies get better prices for fertilizer, equipment .... That's why they could bid low they make their money on the extras irrigation repair, landscape renovation, and so on.
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NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
11-25-2012, 10:48 PM
Big companies get better prices for fertilizer, equipment .... That's why they could bid low they make their money on the extras irrigation repair, landscape renovation, and so on.
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Yeah I guess that can be part of it...

NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
11-25-2012, 11:11 PM
What forms of advertising or methods have worked best and worst to get new business or even the ability to bid on properties for you guys?

SouthValleyLandscapeMaint
11-25-2012, 11:32 PM
Bumgardners, ProLawn & Carols Colors are some of the worst low ballers in our area and they are some of the biggest as well. However I know even they have lost work to the guys with their Wal-Mart mowers. It is a frustrating issue to deal with. I know we are all just trying to feed our families but they are making a mockery of our industry by "performing" the way they do.

NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
11-25-2012, 11:45 PM
Bumgardners, ProLawn & Carols Colors are some of the worst low ballers in our area and they are some of the biggest as well. However I know even they have lost work to the guys with their Wal-Mart mowers. It is a frustrating issue to deal with. I know we are all just trying to feed our families but they are making a mockery of our industry by "performing" the way they do.

Yeah for sure, that's all I'm trying to do is feed my kids and pay the bills and maybe have something that I can eventually pass along to my kids, so we'll see how things go next year from here on out forward, I'm staying positive, hoping to get on some bidders list, but it seems lately properties that go up for bid every year are no longer doing this, if it isn't broke they are keeping the same contractors in place, so we'll see how it goes...

Gilbert503
11-25-2012, 11:50 PM
Some property's already started getting bids for next year.
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NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
11-26-2012, 06:52 PM
Some property's already started getting bids for next year.
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Yeah I've recently done a couple bids for jobs that don't start til January 1st, I'll be honest and say some of my best and most successful forms of advertising have been free methods, like Craigslist, handing out business cards, etc...

Hamatsa
11-28-2012, 09:40 PM
We've had to seriously diversify. I went and got a general contractor's license which allows us to stump grind, repair decks, etc. in addition to the usual commercial and residential maintenance. I think this has been the reason we've kept busy. All of my weekly maintenance contracts are winding down with the last of the leaf/Fall cleanups. I've only lost a few of my regulars due to lowballers. I've actually fired more customers this last year then have lost to the cheap guys. I dropped all my print advertising (too expensive) but use Google Adwords to drive customers to my website. I've cultivated a good list of subs for tree, concrete, irrigation, and low voltage electrical work and can effectively bid the jobs out.

One thing I don't do is underbid. Not for maintenance. Not for repairs and especially not for the stuff that requires other licensed specialists. It just ain't worth it. You're better off staying home and watching Netflix....at lest then you won't be out losing money.

We're running two trucks with trailers now and a motorcycle with a milkcrate bungee'd to the back this year.

I always wave to the other lawnguys.

SouthValleyLandscapeMaint
01-13-2013, 10:36 PM
A motorcycle........:confused:

NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
01-14-2013, 12:58 AM
LOL! You use a motorcycle for what?

GreenHammer
03-09-2013, 01:11 AM
Eugene, OR

Agape
10-05-2013, 10:32 PM
But we service from Corvallis up to Vancouver Wa for landscape maintenance
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What is the secret to servicing outside your area? I've thought about it, but cant get past the expence of estimating far away.

Gilbert503
12-19-2013, 12:40 AM
Anyone thinking about selling any landscape accounts?
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Agape
04-20-2014, 04:26 PM
What do you guys pay per hour for good employees with a mix of maintenance and construction and cleanups?. ( not busy enough for dedicated crews yet).