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Snyder's Lawn Inc
07-28-2011, 04:13 PM
410.6 sq ft of walk
4''x8'' Holland brick with simple pattern basket weave with a border
From start to finish
How many man hours you think?????

DVS Hardscaper
07-28-2011, 04:56 PM
For who? With what?
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DVS Hardscaper
07-28-2011, 05:42 PM
Unfortunately mr Snyder, there is a little
More costing out a walk than just lookin at square footage.

Straight?

Radiused?

Equipment?

Experience?

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GreenI.A.
07-28-2011, 05:49 PM
he is looking for prep time as well? digging and levelling the land, instlling, leveling, packing base material? Or is he just looking for the time to lay a simple rectangular patio with a basket weave and no few cuts?

Snyder's Lawn Inc
07-28-2011, 07:39 PM
he is looking for prep time as well? digging and levelling the land, instlling, leveling, packing base material? Or is he just looking for the time to lay a simple rectangular patio with a basket weave and no few cuts?Mostly lay time
Prep time I know it
Staight run walk 100' long 3' wide

GreenI.A.
07-28-2011, 07:52 PM
Mostly lay time
Prep time I know it
Staight run walk 100' long 3' wide

maybe i don't have a clue how to do math but a walkway 100x3 is 300 sq feet. How did you get 410.6 sq feet.

GreenI.A.
07-28-2011, 07:56 PM
Mostly lay time
Prep time I know it
Staight run walk 100' long 3' wide

ok I just played with the math and a 3' wide walk with a soldier course 95 feet long is 411.6 sq feet. So I'm assuming thats what your dealing with???

If its all full bricks it should take no longer than the time it takes to pick them up off the pallet and lay them on the ground. If your base is properly prepaired so that you don't need to spend 2 minutes levelling each brick individually. The biggest thing that will add time on is if you have to lug the bricks across the yard of you cant drop the pallets where you need them

DVS Hardscaper
07-28-2011, 09:41 PM
A straight walk with no curves is pretty easy.

The walk in the pic below took 5 days to install. It's pretty long, and has a circle kit in it. the 5 days basically was around 130 man hours.

And notice we did a random running pattern. This is where the time comes in. The walk is rather radiused. Every SINGLE paver on the turns IS MITERED. I'm talking THREE STRAIGHT DAYS OF CONTINUOUS CUTTING.

Now had the walk been a modular pattern, the "I" pattern, the parquet pattern, or a herring bone - only the outside perimeter(s) would have needed cut, and it would have installed in much much less time.

http://www.outdoorfinishes.com/images/services/patios/summerwind/paverwalk5-lg.jpg




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zedosix
07-28-2011, 09:54 PM
A straight walk with no curves is pretty easy.

. Every SINGLE paver on the turns IS MITERED. I'm talking THREE STRAIGHT DAYS OF CONTINUOUS CUTTING.


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I just gotta ask why you would choose to do cut each stone. Would it matter if there were 1/4" or 3/8" gaps? Just curious

DVS Hardscaper
07-28-2011, 10:10 PM
I just gotta ask why you would choose to do cut each stone. Would it matter if there were 1/4" or 3/8" gaps? Just curious


To each his own :) And being this is the www and you never know who's peekin in, we'll leave it at that :weightlifter:

zedosix
07-28-2011, 10:25 PM
To each his own :) :weightlifter:

this is funny, I just replied the same thing, guess us hardscapers all think alike!

nepatsfan
07-29-2011, 06:00 AM
How is a walkway that is 410.6 square feet 100' long and 3' wide.

amscapes03
07-29-2011, 09:55 PM
How is a walkway that is 410.6 square feet 100' long and 3' wide.

This is quite the mystery. The OP said the walkway was straight. He didn't say anything about it being flat. Maybe it sort of rolls in a straight line, like rolling hills. Just a guess.

amscapes03
07-29-2011, 09:56 PM
Yes, I'm joking.

White Gardens
07-29-2011, 10:00 PM
A straight walk with no curves is pretty easy.

The walk in the pic below took 5 days to install. It's pretty long, and has a circle kit in it. the 5 days basically was around 130 man hours.



http://www.outdoorfinishes.com/images/services/patios/summerwind/paverwalk5-lg.jpg
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How many square feet was that project? Looks like it goes around the back of the house.


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DVS Hardscaper
07-29-2011, 11:09 PM
How many square feet was that project? Looks like it goes around the back of the house.


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I think around 600 SF.

Large house.

Goes from the side load garage to the front door. We did everything. Great client.


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Snyder's Lawn Inc
07-29-2011, 11:50 PM
How is a walkway that is 410.6 square feet 100' long and 3' wide.

This is quite the mystery. The OP said the walkway was straight. He didn't say anything about it being flat. Maybe it sort of rolls in a straight line, like rolling hills. Just a guess.Thats just the walk there a gate and gets wider to some steps and its 110.6 just around the gate There 3 different walks total of 100'x 3'
grade will be flat

Stillwater
07-30-2011, 09:00 AM
DVS those are tight columns Nice

Snyder's Lawn Inc
08-01-2011, 12:53 AM
Well turned in my bid This evening and they told me to start So I guess $15 psf will be nice for 410 I was going turn in $10 psf glad went with 15
I wasnt the cheapest bid either I met in person and explain my price
Other Company called there bid in at $8 psf

DVS Hardscaper
08-01-2011, 08:53 AM
Well turned in my bid This evening and they told me to start So I guess $15 psf will be nice for 410 I was going turn in $10 psf glad went with 15
I wasnt the cheapest bid either I met in person and explain my price
Other Company called there bid in at $8 psf

I would be interested in hearing how you *explained* your price.

"well mr and mrs home owner, I have no clue what I'm doing so what I did here you see is I got some help from this hardscape god, Andrew hardscape. OH, you've heard of him !........."

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DVS Hardscaper
08-01-2011, 08:55 AM
Well turned in my bid This evening and they told me to start So I guess $15 psf will be nice for 410 I was going turn in $10 psf glad went with 15
I wasnt the cheapest bid either I met in person and explain my price
Other Company called there bid in at $8 psf

I would be interested in hearing how you *explained* your price.

"well mr and mrs home owner, I have no clue what I'm doing so what I did here you see is I got some help from lawnsite's gold member, Andrew hardscape, who posts as DVS Hardscaper. OH?you've heard of him ?!........."

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Snyder's Lawn Inc
08-01-2011, 10:31 PM
I think around 600 SF.

Large house.

Goes from the side load garage to the front door. We did everything. Great client.


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You think around 600 sf if did the project I 'm not saying you didnt do the job you wouldn t think you should know the size
When I explain the price of the bid Explain what she getting for the price
In person not by a phone call

Snyder's Lawn Inc
08-01-2011, 10:39 PM
I would be interested in hearing how you *explained* your price.

"well mr and mrs home owner, I have no clue what I'm doing so what I did here you see is I got some help from lawnsite's gold member, Andrew hardscape, who posts as DVS Hardscaper. OH?you've heard of him ?!........."

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I wouldnt take what you say any way Reason why
You hiding under a different name instead your company name
Location County Jail
And from what i seen in lot your post ur a smart or a dumb a$$ Sorry thats not nice to say but sometime truth hurts

DVS Hardscaper
08-01-2011, 11:33 PM
I wouldnt take what you say any way Reason why
You hiding under a different name instead your company name
Location County Jail
And from what i seen in lot your post ur a smart or a dumb a$$ Sorry thats not nice to say but sometime truth hurts


Yep, you're on the right track!



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scagrider22
08-01-2011, 11:53 PM
I wouldnt take what you say any way Reason why
You hiding under a different name instead your company name
Location County Jail
And from what i seen in lot your post ur a smart or a dumb a$$ Sorry thats not nice to say but sometime truth hurts

Stick with cutting grass kid.

2brothersyardcare
08-02-2011, 09:51 AM
http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp30/bakerc8/d5e5032e.jpg

that took about 15 man hours

Glenn Lawn Care
08-02-2011, 03:54 PM
from past expericence... roughly 2 days with to set backs or changes.

nepatsfan
08-02-2011, 05:40 PM
http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp30/bakerc8/d5e5032e.jpg

that took about 15 man hours

Shoulda made it 20 and fanned it out more at the steps...I would put in a soldier course too.

I also would have made the walkway a lot wider....i prefer a 4' walk. How wide is that 28 inches or so?

zedosix
08-02-2011, 05:55 PM
The home owner wanted it that way!

DVS Hardscaper
08-02-2011, 06:15 PM
In my landscape architecture class we were taught that lead walks should never be less than 4' wide, this way 2 people can stroll side by side.

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nepatsfan
08-02-2011, 06:22 PM
In my landscape architecture class we were taught that lead walks should never be less than 4' wide, this way 2 people can stroll side by side.

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depends on the people:drinkup:....but exactly

zak406
08-02-2011, 06:41 PM
The home owner wanted it that way!

haha isnt that the truth

scagrider22
08-02-2011, 06:55 PM
http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp30/bakerc8/d5e5032e.jpg

that took about 15 man hours

Nice looking tools...are you a carpenter? :laugh:

Krafty
08-02-2011, 11:34 PM
http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp30/bakerc8/d5e5032e.jpg

that took about 15 man hours

I would have a conniption fit if my guys did something like this and it took them 2 days!!!!!

Krafty
08-02-2011, 11:35 PM
A straight walk with no curves is pretty easy.

The walk in the pic below took 5 days to install. It's pretty long, and has a circle kit in it. the 5 days basically was around 130 man hours.

And notice we did a random running pattern. This is where the time comes in. The walk is rather radiused. Every SINGLE paver on the turns IS MITERED. I'm talking THREE STRAIGHT DAYS OF CONTINUOUS CUTTING.

Now had the walk been a modular pattern, the "I" pattern, the parquet pattern, or a herring bone - only the outside perimeter(s) would have needed cut, and it would have installed in much much less time.

http://www.outdoorfinishes.com/images/services/patios/summerwind/paverwalk5-lg.jpg




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I'm calling Bs... look at that paver 12 stones in and 4 from the right they definettly cheetaed:cool2:

DVS Hardscaper
08-02-2011, 11:48 PM
I'm calling Bs... look at that paver 12 stones in and 4 from the right they definettly cheetaed:cool2:


This is what work by non-ICPI-Certified contractors looks like, right?? :)



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Bru75
08-03-2011, 12:17 AM
http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp30/bakerc8/d5e5032e.jpg

that took about 15 man hours

Interesting design, six foot steps and a 28 inch walk.

Do I see STONE DUST?

zak406
08-03-2011, 12:32 AM
Interesting design, six foot steps and a 28 inch walk.

Do I see STONE DUST?

And a hand tamper
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Krafty
08-03-2011, 07:41 AM
This is what work by non-ICPI-Certified contractors looks like, right?? :)



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Hahaha if you had only taken that class you would have been set:drinkup:

2brothersyardcare
08-03-2011, 10:56 AM
yes its set on stone dust the customer insisted i gave no warranty and i broke my cut off saw bc i ran it over lol so i was using those to cut block before i could get mine fixed and it did end up getting solider course customer said dont then said do it so that job was a pain but if she told me from the beginning still would have been 15 hours

scagrider22
08-03-2011, 11:55 AM
Here is a better picture of a 2 day sidewalk! Its 85x4' Unilock Stonehenge pavers and IL Campo soldier course.

zak406
08-03-2011, 02:38 PM
Here is a better picture of a 2 day sidewalk! Its 85x4' Unilock Stonehenge pavers and IL Campo soldier course.

Thats gorgeous!

scagrider22
08-03-2011, 05:46 PM
Thats gorgeous!

Thank you. The only thing I wanted to do different was flare it out on the end by the driveway, the other end is the width of the columns on the patio. Next month Im taking out the front walk and putting a new one in like the one in the back, but I will flare the front walk where it meets the driveway.

zedosix
08-03-2011, 06:28 PM
It looks like the driveway interupted the flow of the walk without the flare. Otherwise nice job.

scagrider22
08-03-2011, 06:34 PM
It looks like the driveway interupted the flow of the walk without the flare. Otherwise nice job.

Thanks, the reason we chose not to do the flare is because we might put some columns with wing walls where the walk meets the drive but the home owner was unsure at the time. He just spent $40k having us put the patio in so the walkway was kind of an after thought as they wanted to save the old flagstone walk but it got pretty damaged during construction of the patio. Oh well kinda my fault but it still looks good.

DVS Hardscaper
08-03-2011, 06:35 PM
why is the white pick up leaning on the left side so bad? Tell the driver no more soda or candy bars!

scagrider22
08-03-2011, 06:39 PM
why is the white pick up leaning on the left side so bad? Tell the driver no more soda or candy bars!

Haha I was just wondering the same thing, it might have had some left over pavers on that side or some tools, I can see the plate compactor is in it but it normally sits level. All the guys on my hardscape crew are pretty fit, but I will relay your messaage to my maintenance crew lol.