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cuttin-to-the-Max
07-30-2011, 12:47 AM
thinking about adding a hooklift to the fleet...
Anyone use them in the landscaping biz???
Maybe its my bad estimating skills but somehow i manage to bring too much mulch to a site....because what i do is dump the mulch then leave the guys. I hate wasting time reloading mulch in the truck that me didnt need. But also like the ground level loading deal...

Anyone use these containers and hook/lift. bodies

topsites
07-30-2011, 02:02 AM
It might be cheaper to buy a trailer just for mulch, then when you get to the site just unhook, voila.
Just have to make sure to set wheel chocks so it doesn't roll off.
Now if they don't use all the mulch it's still on the trailer, hook it back up, off to the next site.

93Chevy
07-30-2011, 09:33 AM
Either do what Topsites said, or get a dump truck like everybody else and work out of the back of that.

KrayzKajun
07-30-2011, 09:41 AM
What other bodies would u get for it? I know a few guys on here run them
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White Gardens
07-30-2011, 10:39 AM
What other bodies would u get for it? I know a few guys on here run them
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Up here I've seen a few medium duty trucks with a contractors dump body as a roll-off. I've also seen them with V-box salt spreaders for easy swap out in the fall going into the winter.


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sven1277
07-30-2011, 10:43 AM
they're very expensive. $12-20k. Dump trailer seems like a better investment

NEUSWEDE
07-30-2011, 07:56 PM
To the people who don't own them they seem like a waste of money, to those of us who have made the investment and own them they were the best investment and not sure how we could do without.

That being said here is my SNG with custom made "dump" body that has a beaver tail and the passenger side folds down. Allows me to put my equipment in the body and go to a site without a trailer. Also have 2 17 yard drop boxes. Great investment and in the 6 months I have had it has already paid for itself .

Its not for everyone just anyone who wants to be efficient.

DEPENDABLE LANDSCAPING
07-31-2011, 12:39 AM
Check out the switch and go as well. We use one and seems to have a less steep angle for pick up it helps not letting materials fall to back of container.
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EA Quinn
07-31-2011, 10:11 AM
Our rolloff goes out almost everyday. We find a new use for this thing every week. Here is a link that shows all the different things we use it for.

http://lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=331004&page=2

BrandonV
07-31-2011, 10:23 AM
I assume you got the hyd version for the 650 there? We have a sng for our lcf and love the body system I wish we had triedit sooner on our f750. Im seriously kicking the idea of pulling our dump body offthe 750 and putting a sng on it. Just havent had time to price things.

threeleafllc
08-01-2011, 10:18 PM
We run our hooklifts everyday they are the most efficient trucks we own
The F550 is a great truck for prunning and doing small jobs.in the winter it gets a vbox and a plow
The Kw was bought to be our primary haul truck for hardscaping but now it just hauls dumpsters we have 40 cans and the truck works everyday..
here are some pics
sorry all i have are some winter pics ill get some more if you guys want

ConstSvcs
08-02-2011, 02:12 AM
At over 20,000 hits I believe a few people found these switch n go units to be worth the minor investment . That truck cost me $ 35,000 to build ! which includes the chassis, hoist, flat bed and two containers......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k65cCLquIrs

An how much does your pickup cost? .....and what can that mason dump carry ?????

ConstSvcs
08-02-2011, 02:22 AM
Cant do this with a mason dump :cool2:

ConstSvcs
08-02-2011, 02:23 AM
Nice KW Threeleaf!

Shadetree Ltd
08-02-2011, 04:33 AM
Never mind mason dump, dumping trailer wouldn't work
" those of us who have made the investment and own them they were the best investment and not sure how we could do without" About sums it up.

jplawnmaint
08-02-2011, 08:51 PM
Never mind mason dump, dumping trailer wouldn't work
" those of us who have made the investment and own them they were the best investment and not sure how we could do without" About sums it up.

Very nice setup. How does the terex handle the blizzard?
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threeleafllc
08-02-2011, 10:27 PM
Never mind mason dump, dumping trailer wouldn't work
" those of us who have made the investment and own them they were the best investment and not sure how we could do without" About sums it up.
I thought we were the only ones with blizzards on skids...Nice to see
we could not operate the way we do without the hooklifts...
ill get some more of the trucks tomorrow

stuvecorp
08-02-2011, 11:34 PM
I can't see the extra cost being justified compared to a truck with a contractors box setup. I'm glad they work for some of you guys but I have never regretted going the contractor box route.

Shadetree Ltd
08-03-2011, 01:29 PM
Very nice setup. How does the terex handle the blizzard?

It is great, I wish it was the 8611 though. The PT80 moves it in 2 spped all day long.
The hooklift has almost made out flatdeck trailer obsolete, it is much easier in town without the length of the trailer. For us it also provides a new revenue stream with bins. We already provide services for these builders for landscaping, now we deliver bins long before we would have been on site and continue servicing longer. We arent in the garbage business, just for existing clients.
The key for us was we also paid 50% of new and the truck only had 60000 kilometers. I wouldn't have one at the full new rate.

threeleafllc
08-03-2011, 10:57 PM
I can't see the extra cost being justified compared to a truck with a contractors box setup. I'm glad they work for some of you guys but I have never regretted going the contractor box route.

Have you ever used a hooklift on a construction site? Not a SWG a real hooklift...It is so much easier to load a can on the ground and unload stone when the can is at ground level..It is just an easier way of doing things.. Just try a hooklift for a day in a real world app and you will never go back..

stuvecorp
08-04-2011, 12:08 AM
Have you ever used a hooklift on a construction site? Not a SWG a real hooklift...It is so much easier to load a can on the ground and unload stone when the can is at ground level..It is just an easier way of doing things.. Just try a hooklift for a day in a real world app and you will never go back..

I have watched another company in town that have them and I don't think it's worth it nor could I ever justify it for me. Especially if you don't have the extra cans/bodies for it. I'm not saying they are bad but just don't see how it would help how I do things. The contractor box can carry pallets or bulk materials and then pull the skid or mini on the trailer, the trailer is also not a problem here. As for landscape rock, I run that thru the rocks door. I talked with my upfitter at length on the hooks and in a 550 size truck especially the extra weight and load height(and lets be honest extra money) take away the positives. To me when it comes down to moving material you can not beat a regular dump truck for that.

cuttin-to-the-Max
08-04-2011, 03:09 PM
Wow Im just drooling over all these switch and go's and hooklifts.... think im going to have my kodiak switched over. maybe i can keep my dump bed and just make some slight mods to it so it can be used as a switch and go.

Are switch and go's better than hooklifts????? better as in safer?

mrsops
08-04-2011, 09:40 PM
picture of mine.. 2007 ford f-750

NEUSWEDE
08-05-2011, 10:14 PM
Wow Im just drooling over all these switch and go's and hooklifts.... think im going to have my kodiak switched over. maybe i can keep my dump bed and just make some slight mods to it so it can be used as a switch and go.

Are switch and go's better than hooklifts????? better as in safer?

Switch n go does sell a frame that you could take your dump body and take the dump hoist off and mount it to the frame.

The difference between switch n go and hook lift is that the hooklift is faster as switch n go used a winch to pull the body on where the hook lift is an arm so you don't have to get out to hook up. On the flip side hook lift costs more and weighs more. Switch n go is more suited for the 26K and under gvw trucks and for operations that are no making a lot of changes every day.

White Gardens
08-05-2011, 11:04 PM
On the flip side hook lift costs more and weighs more. Switch n go is more suited for the 26K and under gvw trucks and for operations that are no making a lot of changes every day.

So, if you are a smaller business with less volume, and you wanted to utilize a switch out system, would the switch and go be the better choice for say, an entry level system?

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NEUSWEDE
08-05-2011, 11:19 PM
So, if you are a smaller business with less volume, and you wanted to utilize a switch out system, would the switch and go be the better choice for say, an entry level system?

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I would say yes. I see the hooklift more for dedicated dumpster business where your making more switches per day and need to do it faster.

The switch n go is a good system to start out with and I think it is at a good price point. The 14' hoist frame and 14' (17yard) drop box were the same price as the Iroquois 9' (3-5 yard) dump body on my f550.

White Gardens
08-06-2011, 12:27 AM
Basically from what I'm reading from hook lift owners is if you've got multiple landscaping crews and high production, then the hook lift is the way to go.

I missed out on an F-450 a couple of years ago with a hook-lift system. Had a dump body and V-box, and I still wish I would have purchased that truck just for the system alone.

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BrandonV
08-08-2011, 10:49 PM
i'd say if you have a dumpster business a hook lift is great. as a traditional landscape crew you'd be better w/ the sng because of the cost. you're not going to be setting the body down more that 5 times a day. we got ours mostly for the ability to have a mowing bed/ mulch & trimming bed and a leaf body all on one truck. We love the SNG system. oh the pic is to show you something you can't do w/ a mason dump, I wish i had put this system on my f750

ConstSvcs
08-08-2011, 11:28 PM
As a S-N-G owner I would say you have all made great points on both systems. After almost four years of owning the system my only regret is that I did not price the full hydraulic S-N-G option at the time of my purchase. I encourage you to do so as I often wonder if the speed of the hydraulic winch is faster at loading than the electric hoist.
I would also encourage you to purchase the medium duty containers and avoid the light duty version. My medium duty cans have held up very well. Hooklift or SNG......you will be pleased with your decision on a interchange body system.....Good Luck!

NEUSWEDE
08-09-2011, 10:11 PM
After almost four years of owning the system my only regret is that I did not price the full hydraulic S-N-G option at the time of my purchase.

The full hydraulic is the same price as the electric over hydraulic, but you will need to have central hydraulics which quoted for my F650 was 6k for parts and install. But on the flip side you can always convert the eletric over to hydro pretty easily if you ever put central hyrdos in.


I am a smaller company compared to the rest who have the system but for me the versatility was the nice thing and being able to have it to the ground. My 650 had a 14" grain body before and was the same size as a sng drop box but was a pain to load from the ground because the sides were so high so everything went through the barn doors so loading brush sucked. Now I can get the body on the ground and makes life easier loading espicalling loading in with a wheel barrel.

Also the pain in the past was setting the truck up for leaves in the fall with the leaf box and then having to waste time taking off the box to do a dirt job the next day. Now I can set a drop box up for leaves and then easily drop that and pick up the dump bed and use that. Makes my life easier and saves me time. Defintely worth it in my mind.