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Mike Leary
08-09-2011, 09:45 PM
Who installed the coolest system this season? How did you score it and what parts did you use?

greenmonster304
08-09-2011, 11:00 PM
I got a sweet job from an add I had on craigslist. It was an 1/8 of an acre. I used k rain rotors, orbit timer and valves, 4" drain pipe for valve boxes with the toro cap, taped the wall faucet for main, garden hose laterals, and I got it all from home depot. The best part is the niegbor saw and wants memo do his house too.
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txirrigation
08-09-2011, 11:07 PM
We installed 67 zones of temp irrigation at 47 gpm a zone. We had to use "water saving tech" so we used MPR 3000's mounted on shrub spray bodies sitting on 8" schd 80 threaded nipples.

Total run time for the system was 22hrs and 20 min.

We also did a softball field... which wasn't that cool but a first. We used
i-60's

This could be a interesting topic, GreenM that was funny and I have seen most of that before.

DanaMac
08-09-2011, 11:30 PM
Greenmonster wins it hands down! No contest.
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WalkGood
08-10-2011, 01:32 AM
Put in a Lawn Belt system last month.

Attached to this :
http://www.betterimprovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/dual-hose-timer.jpg

Stillwater
08-10-2011, 02:10 AM
Everything we do is the coolest........

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-10-2011, 07:49 AM
Put in a Lawn Belt system last month.

Attached to this :
http://www.betterimprovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/dual-hose-timer.jpg

Where's the pigtail?

greenmonster304
08-10-2011, 08:31 AM
Put in a Lawn Belt system last month.

Attached to this :
http://www.betterimprovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/dual-hose-timer.jpg

That looks like one of ML's megas, 2 zones that's serious.

But on a serious note I haven't had anything too interesting unfortunately but there is still a few months left.

WalkGood
08-10-2011, 11:26 AM
Where's the pigtail?

Two brothers walked into town from their farms one day to buy pigs. On the way home, one brother said to the other, "how will we know which pig is mine and which is yours?" His brother pondered, then replied, "we could cut the left ear off your pig, then we'll be able to tell them apart". The man thought about this for a while then agreed. So, they cut the left ear off the man's pig. After a bit, the two pigs began fighting and the one-eared pig bit the left ear off the other pig. This posed the problem again, so they decided to cut the right ear off one of the pigs so they would know which pig was which. After a time, the pigs fought again and yes, the earless pig bit the right ear off the other pig.
Not knowing what to do, they discussed cutting one of the pigs tails off. Agreed. Again, the pigs fought and both ended up tailless.
Then, one brother suggested they cut one of the pigs hind legs off.
Finally after much thought, the other brother said, "that is just too inhumane. How about we say the black pig is yours and the white one is mine....

Mike Leary
08-10-2011, 01:26 PM
Obviously, we have not been very busy this season. :rolleyes:

SoCalLandscapeMgmt
08-10-2011, 03:21 PM
I got nothing..... nothing exciting. We're installing 18 ESP-SMT and 7 Hermit Crabs for a client next week. That's about the most excitement we've seen all summer

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-10-2011, 03:43 PM
I think the moral to Walkgood's story is that I need to offer pigtails in two colors.

irritation
08-10-2011, 03:53 PM
Replaced 523 PGP's (96.5% were leaky seals) with 5004's.

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-10-2011, 04:07 PM
pics?.............

txirrigation
08-10-2011, 04:10 PM
Replaced 523 PGP's (96.5% were leaky seals) with 5004's.

Dang, one site or over the year?

I posted on a different thread pics of a 5004 running with PGP's and you can clearly see the advantage. Not as much mist, and much lower angle of throw.

irritation
08-10-2011, 04:23 PM
pics?.............

No, but here's a good example.
http://www.n-siderecords.com/lawnsite/pgp_topfailure.jpg

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-10-2011, 04:27 PM
You wear rubber boats with laces?

irritation
08-10-2011, 04:34 PM
You wear rubber boats with laces?

I don't wear boats and that's not my pic.

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-10-2011, 04:39 PM
PLAGIARISM!




Yeah I'm with you on the PGPs something went really south on them.

WalkGood
08-10-2011, 04:57 PM
No, but here's a good example.
http://www.n-siderecords.com/lawnsite/pgp_topfailure.jpg

Doesn't look like the wiper seal is leaking. Just the screw-on collar is leaking. Perhaps it wasn't tightened correctly?

I have also found that some very MUCH older PGP canisters do not mate up correctly with new guts-n-collars. Have to replace the whole unit or the screw top leaks. Anyone else have that happen?

AI Inc
08-10-2011, 05:00 PM
Doesn't look like the wiper seal is leaking. Just the screw-on collar is leaking. Perhaps it wasn't tightened correctly?

I have also found that some very MUCH older PGP canisters do not mate up correctly with new guts-n-collars. Have to replace the whole unit or the screw top leaks. Anyone else have that happen?

Yep, bout 50% of the time.

irritation
08-10-2011, 05:02 PM
I went around and around with Hunter reps for 2 years before I had to switch. They would never admit to a product defect or improvements being made.

I find this a couple years later.:hammerhead:

The PGP has replaceable riser seals that may wear out over time. Sandy soils, sunken heads, or extremely hot and cold temperatures may also cause a seal to wear out prematurely

Note: The new parts in this kit incorporate improvements that increase their durabilityand life of service

http://www.hunterindustries.com/Resources/FAQs/Home_Rotors/faq_seal_replace.html

irritation
08-10-2011, 05:03 PM
The wiper seal causes them to leak around the cap threads.

WalkGood
08-10-2011, 05:06 PM
Yep, bout 50% of the time.

Seriously, I hate when that happens. Screws up a 5 minute head change. Unscrew the old, screw in a new one. Make a dry adjustment. Turn on water and the tard-bas is leaking at the screw-top. Thinking you can get out the driveway real quick, then you have to dig out the whole thing. :cry::mad:

WalkGood
08-10-2011, 05:08 PM
The wiper seal causes them to leak around the cap threads.

Usually I see the water gushing around the riser shaft when the wiper seal is shot.

irritation
08-10-2011, 05:10 PM
and it's no simple job to replace the seals in a PGP.
You're much better off replacing the whole head with a 5000 that has a 5 year warranty.

irritation
08-10-2011, 05:10 PM
Usually I see the water gushing around the riser shaft when the wiper seal is shot.

I see either or both.

AI Inc
08-10-2011, 05:11 PM
Seriously, I hate when that happens. Screws up a 5 minute head change. Unscrew the old, screw in a new one. Make a dry adjustment. Turn on water and the tard-bas is leaking at the screw-top. Thinking you can get out the driveway real quick, then you have to dig out the whole thing. :cry::mad:

And as you say a lot of times they are just loose , and that brings us right back to your pic of the dingy owned by the guy in the head tightening buss.

I dont know about others , but I actualy like selling sprinkler heads.

WalkGood
08-10-2011, 05:14 PM
I never replace the seals. Remove guts and swap or replace the whole unit.

AI Inc
08-10-2011, 05:18 PM
I never replace the seals. Remove guts and swap or replace the whole unit.

good man , who the hell wants to spend 5 min selling a $2 part.

WalkGood
08-10-2011, 05:18 PM
And as you say a lot of times they are just loose , and that brings us right back to your pic of the dingy owned by the guy in the head tightening buss.

I dont know about others , but I actualy like selling sprinkler heads.
Had to think a bit to recall what you were referring to with the dinghy! :laugh:

If I have to dig out a head, it's getting replaced. payup

irritation
08-10-2011, 05:22 PM
I dont know about others , but I actualy like selling sprinkler heads.

I prefer happy customers and not replacing heads before 5 years. I have 30+ year old Toro rotors that still don't leak.:dizzy:

WalkGood
08-10-2011, 05:23 PM
good man , who the hell wants to spend 5 min selling a $2 part.

Shafts are always scored/grooved. A new seal wont fix that.

AI Inc
08-10-2011, 05:23 PM
Had to think a bit to recall what you were referring to with the dinghy! :laugh:

If I have to dig out a head, it's getting replaced. payup

As crazy as it may sound , people are more likely to complain about a service call and a $2 part then a service call and $25-$30 for a head.

AI Inc
08-10-2011, 05:24 PM
I prefer happy customers and not replacing heads before 5 years. I have 30+ year old Toro rotors that still don't leak.:dizzy:

So what do you sell? Just clock upgrades?

irritation
08-10-2011, 05:31 PM
Like I said, replacing Hunter with RainBird. It makes you look bad when the equipment you install doesn't last 5 years.

AI Inc
08-10-2011, 05:38 PM
Not enough water in most houses here to run rb,s and do matched. Nozzle selection dosnt go low enough. I have been putting some rb,s in new installs running full circles. Also been testing out krains too.

AI Inc
08-10-2011, 05:40 PM
I just deposited a check from a customer , tech was there last week changed 8 pgp,s . This is after I changed 12 at startup. Not one leak all stopped turning because of massive iron buildup. Gotta say I was kinda shocked not to see any leaking.

irritation
08-10-2011, 05:49 PM
Pretty sad if you can't run 1 gpm 90's and 2 gpm 180's. Krain's are nothing more than upgraded PGP's.

irritation
08-10-2011, 05:56 PM
I just deposited a check from a customer , tech was there last week changed 8 pgp,s . This is after I changed 12 at startup. Not one leak all stopped turning because of massive iron buildup. Gotta say I was kinda shocked not to see any leaking.

Yea, that's great. 20 PGP's not rotating.:)

AI Inc
08-10-2011, 06:26 PM
Pretty sad if you can't run 1 gpm 90's and 2 gpm 180's. Krain's are nothing more than upgraded PGP's.

Nozzle racks sold round here start at 1.5 , so that means 3 on 1/2,s. Works on some systems, dosnt on many well systems.

AI Inc
08-10-2011, 06:27 PM
Yea, that's great. 20 PGP's not rotating.:)

Iron was so bad would have probably been the same with rb,s.

irritation
08-10-2011, 06:35 PM
You should have 1gpm la nozzles on the tree and that's what you want. Any higher trajectory and it just blows away.

If the well water is that bad use Maxi-Paws.

AI Inc
08-10-2011, 06:42 PM
Wow, I never even knew it was there. May have to see if supply house is selling em for $3 each again this august, Just might put more in. So did everyone get their RB valve coupon for $40 off a case.

irritation
08-10-2011, 06:53 PM
Wow, I never even knew it was there. May have to see if supply house is selling em for $3 each.

If you have to pay for rotor nozzles, something is wrong.

AI Inc
08-10-2011, 06:54 PM
If you have to pay for rotor nozzles, something is wrong.

No, they come in the case. This time last yr supply house was selling 5004,s for $3

koster_irrigation
08-10-2011, 09:01 PM
4" drain pipe for valve boxes with the toro cap

I thought i was the only one that ran across these things still out there...


We did a 15 acre apt. complex in raleigh near the airport, back in april/may

Rainbirds new 2wire controller with flow sensing. Like 600 mist heads and 100 rotors....

greenmonster304
08-10-2011, 10:02 PM
Wow, I never even knew it was there. May have to see if supply house is selling em for $3 each again this august, Just might put more in. So did everyone get their RB valve coupon for $40 off a case.

I think they were targeting people who don't use RB products. I got that coupon but it was for valves because I use Irritrol mostly.
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greenmonster304
08-10-2011, 10:04 PM
Pretty sad if you can't run 1 gpm 90's and 2 gpm 180's. Krain's are nothing more than upgraded PGP's.

What's upgraded about the k rain?
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Wet_Boots
08-10-2011, 10:30 PM
sneezed on by unicorns

Stuttering Stan
08-11-2011, 12:00 AM
I think they were targeting people who don't use RB products. I got that coupon but it was for valves because I use Irritrol mostly.
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I got those coupons also. I think I did a phone survey or internet maybe. Unfortunately, it expired on July 15 and got buried in the junk mail pile.

AI Inc
08-11-2011, 06:58 AM
I think they were targeting people who don't use RB products. I got that coupon but it was for valves because I use Irritrol mostly.
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Yes , after reading the fine print I realized it was only valid in the northeast.

AI Inc
08-11-2011, 06:59 AM
I got those coupons also. I think I did a phone survey or internet maybe. Unfortunately, it expired on July 15 and got buried in the junk mail pile.

Stan the one I have has no expiration date. and can be used as many times as ya want. Still in my email if ya want me to forward it to ya.

AI Inc
08-11-2011, 07:00 AM
What's upgraded about the k rain?
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Spring seams stronger then a hunter. I think k rain learned about springs with their pro plus failures.

DanaMac
08-11-2011, 09:14 AM
I got coupons this year in the mail as well. I think it was $20 or $30 off a case of 1800s any style any height. And $30 or $40 off a case of 5000s. Not sure I got one for the DVS though.