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FIMCO-MEISTER
08-11-2011, 12:49 PM
A leak has developed in the fountain pump. I'm assuming from the location its where the turbine bolts into the engine flange. Tried tightening the bolts though I had my doubts it would fix it. My main question is can I survive another month til we shut it down for winter before dealing with this? i'll explain my reasons in later pics.

http://i.imgur.com/fEddb.jpg

The location of this pump is making me very nervous. It's in a maintenance closet that leads into a hallway. If it or the pipe were to burst it would be a nightmare.
http://i.imgur.com/hPPek.jpg
So I want to move it just outside the wall under this deck stair. HACK ALERT PIC

http://i.imgur.com/o9yeX.jpg

MORE HACK ALERT
http://i.imgur.com/FPoG5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BYg2D.jpg

Wet_Boots
08-11-2011, 12:56 PM
Maybe you just need a new shaft seal for the pump. I believe those are easy to come by.

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-11-2011, 01:09 PM
Maybe you just need a new shaft seal for the pump. I believe those are easy to come by.

Will it require draining the water?

Wet_Boots
08-11-2011, 01:18 PM
Oh yeah - it's an off-season job, and if that's a Jacuzzi pump (or really any pump) you want to use penetrating oil on the case bolts.

Stuttering Stan
08-11-2011, 02:04 PM
Rather than replacing the seal, maybe it's time for a complete rebuild. Looks like it's a few years old. Good off season day job for ya.
On a side note, how's the hospital audit coming?

Wet_Boots
08-11-2011, 02:29 PM
Even if it was a no-name pump you couldn't get parts for, there will be a generic shaft seal available.

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-11-2011, 02:35 PM
Need to get that audit finished. Been fishing too much.

I'll will heed ya'lls advice though and try and survive til winter. Then I'll probably have some pump winterizing questions.

1idejim
08-11-2011, 02:37 PM
Even if it was a no-name pump you couldn't get parts for, there will be a generic shaft seal available.

ditto, try these guys pete. they are very nice to deal with :)

http://www.poolcenter.com/parts_pumps_poolstor.htm

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-11-2011, 02:39 PM
THKS Jim.........

1idejim
08-11-2011, 02:45 PM
Need to get that audit finished. Been fishing too much.

I'll will heed ya'lls advice though and try and survive til winter. Then I'll probably have some pump winterizing questions.

getter done now pete, the leak will only get worse. there can't be more than 1 hours work involved. i have torn apart many small pumps for warranty work.

here's the trick, don't put back anything that you take out, perform and charge for a complete replacement of all seals and gaskets. inspect all moving parts and use the recommended sealer and torque settings.

:)

pumps can be winterized through the voultes

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-11-2011, 03:25 PM
Its the draining of the ponds I'm dreading. I need to install some ball valves to isolate it in the future for this kind of stuff.

It's part of the building I have a maintenance contract on. Can't bill separate. Either sub it out or do it myself. Small towns don't have a lot of subs available.

1idejim
08-11-2011, 03:45 PM
Its the draining of the ponds I'm dreading. I need to install some ball valves to isolate it in the future for this kind of stuff.

It's part of the building I have a maintenance contract on. Can't bill separate. Either sub it out or do it myself. Small towns don't have a lot of subs available.

use an inflatable plug to check the flow from the ponds. you already have isolation at the return. the pump can be drained by cycling the pump after isolating the supply and return (garden hose to daylight) air compressor to finish draining the pump through the voultes, pete. done it before.

once the water is drained, install an isolation valve in the supply line and you can service the pump at any time.

not to sound like boots but, i have serviced many pools and ponds where the pumps were -10 below grade without any issues. you do this one and your ad will read "pigtails and pumps"

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-11-2011, 04:03 PM
Yeah I was thinking something along those line I'll tackle it next week. Audrey sent me the latest horrifying riot scene from London. Dripit doesn't your daughter live in Manchester? Tell her to look out for this stuff.
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Wet_Boots
08-11-2011, 04:50 PM
If the pump has lived indoors its entire life, there may be no issues with the bolts. I've encountered outdoor pumps where I wound up wishing I'd had a small impact wrench to undo the case bolts.

If I were to install a pump outdoors, I might get stainless-steel replacements for the case bolts.

S.O.Contracting
08-11-2011, 07:54 PM
Pump says jacuzzi I believe. That motor has been replaced before thats an aftermarket emerson. Pump seal is probably a ps-1000 if I had to guess. But i could be wrong.

Wet_Boots
08-11-2011, 08:04 PM
I have an old Jacuzzi pump I couldn't open without breaking the case bolts. Ended up replacing it with a Goulds.

Wet_Boots
08-14-2011, 03:11 PM
Looks like you have a DB2 pump
http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=227937&stc=1&d=1313343608

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-14-2011, 03:16 PM
So I just need to get a repair kit for a DB2? I'll try again.

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-14-2011, 03:18 PM
Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think that site deals with my pump.
http://www.poolcenter.com/parts_pumps_poolstor.htm

1idejim
08-14-2011, 03:19 PM
So I just need to get a repair kit for a DB2? I'll try again.

sorry pete, wrong link

http://www.poolsupplies.com/information-manuals/pool-pump-manuals.asp

this is the right one

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-14-2011, 03:29 PM
Thanks Jim. This is all giving me tired head. Think I'll mosey away...........

Wet_Boots
08-14-2011, 03:30 PM
Franklin Electric bought Jacuzzi, so that complicates the searching


I found a few inexpensive replacement shaft seals for Jacuzzi, less than $20 ~ I may have a master catalog for Jacuzzi packed away somewhere.

http://store.poolcenter.com/jacuzzi-seal-shaft---10000206r000-p157132.aspx

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-14-2011, 03:38 PM
Found a place that had parts for a DB3 but they were all listed as obsolete.

1idejim
08-14-2011, 04:12 PM
i have an o-ring and seal kit that fills most obsolete voids

Wet_Boots
08-14-2011, 04:15 PM
Found a place that had parts for a DB3 but they were all listed as obsolete.You can check your Grainger catalog for a number 200 shaft seal. There is an industry standard for these things, and all the links for a Jacuzzi seal say it's a 200

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-14-2011, 09:11 PM
But if it was recommended to me to replace all the parts when I disassemble? seems a shame to go through all this trouble and not new everything up.

Mike Leary
08-14-2011, 09:27 PM
But if it was recommended to me to replace all the parts when I disassemble? seems a shame to go through all this trouble and not new everything up.

Or buy a fresh one with warranty.

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-14-2011, 09:29 PM
i guess I can do that and use the existing motor?

Mike Leary
08-14-2011, 09:40 PM
i guess I can do that and use the existing motor?

For a boat anchor.

Wet_Boots
08-14-2011, 09:55 PM
Pump and parts may be discontinued. At 11 years of age, the innards should be fine. Buy a shaft seal and play around with the pump some Sunday afternoon when the football game stinks.

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-14-2011, 11:40 PM
Its still baseball season you pagan.
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Wet_Boots
08-14-2011, 11:45 PM
Do you see me suggesting you work on it during baseball season? :)

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-14-2011, 11:46 PM
Sorry. Just not a well man.
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Mike Leary
08-14-2011, 11:51 PM
Pump and parts may be discontinued. At 11 years of age, the innards should be fine. Buy a shaft seal and play around with the pump some Sunday afternoon when the football game stinks.

Nothing like sitting on the couch drinking lite beer, watching bad football and working on a pump.:dizzy:

Sprinkus
08-14-2011, 11:53 PM
Sorry. Just not a well man.
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Sorry to hear that you're not a well, man.
Hope you get to feelin' a better, man. :)