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bcg
08-20-2011, 09:32 AM
This is getting ridiculous. Our average rainfall for Aug is 4.3" and average highs are in the low to mid 90's. I'm sure the 30% chance of rain for next week will be gone by Monday.

Somebody please send us a very rainy cold front soon.

Wet_Boots
08-20-2011, 09:42 AM
I thought your state's Governor fixed all that :p

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-20-2011, 09:47 AM
Its a bright sunny 55 here but the days are getting shorter fast. Wont be long Bernie
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bobw
08-20-2011, 10:25 AM
We're starting to see the leaves change in some parts of the city around here; much, much too early for my liking

mitchgo
08-20-2011, 10:39 AM
were only 2 weeks into our summer.

bring those temps up here!

Lite Headed
08-20-2011, 02:37 PM
We're starting to see the leaves change in some parts of the city around here; much, much too early for my liking

We are too here in Texas...from green to a nice dead brown color. Just got back from the TNLA show in Dallas and the drive from Houston to Dallas is depressing. Entire stands of all types of trees dead all along the route.

Mike Leary
08-20-2011, 03:32 PM
were only 2 weeks into our summer.

bring those temps up here!

I had my mega client tell me to shut 'ur down; even running at 50%.

bcg
08-23-2011, 04:24 PM
Updated forecast. Mitch, you can have this heat if you want it. That 30% chance of rain will not happen.

We usually average 4 days a year over 100*, we're on day 24 in a row now and something like day 40 for the year at this point.

DanaMac
08-23-2011, 07:48 PM
Record highs here the last two days. granted, that is only 93 and 95, but still........

mitchgo
08-23-2011, 08:09 PM
Okay maybe that's too much heat!


Your low's are our high's :laugh::laugh:

Sprinkus
08-23-2011, 08:23 PM
The heat was hot and the ground was dry but the air was full of more heat, and humidity.
Yeah, this summer is a bummer. :cry:

txgrassguy
08-24-2011, 08:31 AM
You want to know how bad it has gotten here in C. Texas - I'll tell you, and this is a real "noshit" story.
Yesterday I along with my main laborer are at a r-o-w maintenance account. Tell the guy to start hand trimming. Not quite four minutes later, using a goddamned handtrimmer we start a grass fire. Using nylon line no less. Exhaust was not the cause, loose rocks were.
Called my bros at the FD, a grass truck comes out and extinguishes the fire - I kept it under control with the 50 gallon sprayer I hand in my truck but didn't have enough water to fully extinguish.
At 3:15pm, as I am driving through a local town the temp was 106*F with the heat index 113*F.
The newsies in Austin are moaning like a three dollar crackwhore who has to make change about seventy days over 100*F, well it's been almost eighty straight days in my A.O., no rain.
On average in my A.O. the days over 100*F are maybe forty. Worse drought/heat conditions since accurate records have been maintained since 1925.

Wet_Boots
08-24-2011, 08:42 AM
there's no global warming
there's no global warming
there's no global warming

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-24-2011, 08:46 AM
Texas has never had a drought until global warming was discovered by the left.

txirrigation
08-24-2011, 08:55 AM
It has been so dry that even people with sprinkler systems are shutting them down and giving up. "We will just try to get it back next year, no point in wasting any more water or money."

TexasFire221
08-24-2011, 09:53 AM
Day number 73 with temps over 100. Was 108 yesterday and suppose to be 107 today. Out of 80 or so lawn accounts I have 5 left. We went to stage II water restrictions yesterday and will be at stage III in two weeks which means no outdoor watering, no landscape installs, no washing cars, and so on. I had an $11,000 landscape bid at that just went void because of water restrictions so im pretty much done. No too sure what to do. I have already starting cutting expenses and hope I can make it into spring if we even get rain then. I have customer with oak and pecan trees that are dead. I hauled 750 gallons of water to a customers place last week and water a dozen of his oak trees but they probably wont make it.

DanaMac
08-24-2011, 12:11 PM
Summer can't be over yet, I'm actually going to look at an install bid! First one in a few years. High end area and things are slow, so I don't mind if the price is right.

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-24-2011, 02:41 PM
Day number 73 with temps over 100. Was 108 yesterday and suppose to be 107 today. Out of 80 or so lawn accounts I have 5 left. We went to stage II water restrictions yesterday and will be at stage III in two weeks which means no outdoor watering, no landscape installs, no washing cars, and so on. I had an $11,000 landscape bid at that just went void because of water restrictions so im pretty much done. No too sure what to do. I have already starting cutting expenses and hope I can make it into spring if we even get rain then. I have customer with oak and pecan trees that are dead. I hauled 750 gallons of water to a customers place last week and water a dozen of his oak trees but they probably wont make it.

Man that sounds awful. Losing some shrubs is one thing but losing our oak and pecan trees is a serious matter. I'm dreading my next trip home to see the damage.

bcg
08-24-2011, 03:52 PM
I think a lot of those oaks and pecans are probably going dormant more so than dieing, I've had them do that to me before. They're definitely taking a hurting though, any of them without irrigation look very bad. Magnolias are really suffering this year as well, even with irrigation.

Even if they do recover, its going to be a few years before they're healthy again. Anything that isn't irrigated looks like crap right now anywhere in the state. Houston is about as green as Nevada where it isn't irrigated and the City of Houston has requested their water from Lake Conroe to the tune of 150m gallons a day, just to keep Lake Houston at current levels and meet the demand on the water system. That equates to 1/2" of water per day, in addition to the 1/2" per day lost to evaporation so Lake Conroe will be dropping about 6 feet a week, give or take. It's already several feet down.

Next on the list will be Lake Livingston, which the City of Houston also owns a large part of. If they have to start pulling from Livingston, I think it will be the first time in history.

The central Tx lakes are all really low as well. I read an article that said the original Bluffton, on the banks of the Colorado river, had resurfaced in Lake Buchanan. I think it's like 25 or 30 feet below pool now.

This summer sucks. I hope its a VERY wet winter but I'm not going to get my hopes up.

Stuttering Stan
08-24-2011, 08:55 PM
Bernie, looks like a good time to refocus on lighting. Sounds like irrigation is headed towards a dry spell (cricket, cricket, .....that was a dry joke)

bcg
08-24-2011, 09:06 PM
This time of year, I really start to switch the marketing focus that way regardless.

PS - HOORAY! It's really RAINING!

Mike Leary
08-25-2011, 02:38 PM
I'm actually going to look at an install bid!

You sure you remember how to do an install? :rolleyes:

DanaMac
08-25-2011, 04:58 PM
You sure you remember how to do an install? :rolleyes:

Vaguely. Already stubbed out of the house. 6-7 rotor zones, stub pipe to three areas for future drip lines, have mainline and wire available for future expansion, all wide open, no trees, landscaping will be done AFTER sprinklers (novel idea huh?). Pretty basic.

txirrigation
08-25-2011, 05:52 PM
txgrassguy- Did you get in on that grass fire in Pflugerville?

Dripit good
08-25-2011, 07:09 PM
landscaping will be done AFTER sprinklers (novel idea huh?). Pretty basic.

Do you prefer this?
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DanaMac
08-25-2011, 07:51 PM
Sure do. That way I'm not working around the metal edging and bending it, not worrying about getting dirt in the rock, get any drip pipe down before fabric and rock/mulch go down, I don't have to move rock/mulch to get my mainline out away from the house. I will flag all my stuff and let them work around it. I usually will bid in a little time and materials to cover repairing/replacing/moving a couple heads.

Dripit good
08-25-2011, 09:43 PM
I prefer to have all of the trees and plants installed prior. This way I can get all the head and valve placements right and the landscapers won't hit my sh!t. Even with a landscape plan things change, trees get moved here, other thing get added there and/or deleted.....it happens every time. It's more difficult to get everything right when nothing is in the ground. I find it easier to get heads and pipe custom around the plantings once they are in.

I'm more fortunate I suppose because we also do the landscaping. Once everything is in and before the edging, mulch, ground cover and flowers go in...this is prime time.

It's a battle when there is no continuity between the irrigation and landscape activity.
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txgrassguy
08-26-2011, 10:48 AM
txgrassguy- Did you get in on that grass fire in Pflugerville?

No, that is a different task force. I was in on the fire just south of Marble Falls at the intersection of state hwy 71 and 281. 16 hours in various brush trucks the first evening through to the next morning then intermittently about another 10 hours across Saturday and Sunday. I was also in on the large grass fire in Round Mountain although I drove a tanker that day for seven hours - then in Bertram for TEEX training on vehicle extrication for two days. Busy month. Added it up yesterday, I am right at 71 hrs not counting vehicle maintenance.

txirrigation
08-26-2011, 11:19 AM
No, that is a different task force. I was in on the fire just south of Marble Falls at the intersection of state hwy 71 and 281. 16 hours in various brush trucks the first evening through to the next morning then intermittently about another 10 hours across Saturday and Sunday. I was also in on the large grass fire in Round Mountain although I drove a tanker that day for seven hours - then in Bertram for TEEX training on vehicle extrication for two days. Busy month. Added it up yesterday, I am right at 71 hrs not counting vehicle maintenance.

That is crazy, be safe! I just saw a new RRFD bush truck pulling into Round Rock last week. It was a jacked up f450-550ish with super swamper tires. The thing looked like a beast, tax payer money at work I guess. I would have liked to see something like that go to a more rural FD.

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-26-2011, 12:46 PM
TGG I don't know how you get any irrigation work done. I'm assuming th fire work is volunteer.

txgrassguy
08-26-2011, 02:19 PM
Yep, all volunteer. I get my work done by starting early and working through lunch usually. I do have a capable laborer who is able to assist in everything except controller installation/wiring. By the way my business also does contract grounds maintenance as well as irrigation and chemical applications. I could grow it up again from the downturn in the economy but I am in a "holding" pattern waiting for the pesky irs details.

txirrigation - those jacked up F450-F550 trucksare sweet to look at but are worth bumpkis in the brush. Way too long and wide plus they weigh way way way too much and munch tires faster than a three dollar crack ho with a fresh rock. In my a.o. the ranchers specialize in growing, well rocks and dense cedar, making it vital to have a srw 1 ton 4X4 regular cab with behemoth front and rear bumpers to bull into the active fire. This is why my department gets called out on mutual aide so much as we have the weather beaten trucks that are extremely capable-not much to look at or drive on the highway but they live for harsh use. I have posted this photo before, it is either a '66 or '67 Jeep Kaiser, equipped with a small block chevy and will go places those F450-550 trucks couldn't even think of attempting to traverse.
The photo is what it looks like from the cab when a nozzle man is on the front platform.

txgrassguy
08-26-2011, 02:28 PM
Tried to upload a photo of the truck but you can see it at the "almost toast yesterday" narrative.
I suck with computers and do not know how to copy the same image here.

Mike Leary
08-26-2011, 02:47 PM
I prefer to have all of the trees and plants installed prior.It's a battle when there is no continuity between the irrigation and landscape activity.

I've always demanded to be in first, then the plantings. The only ceveat is "tell me where the trees are going."

AI Inc
08-26-2011, 03:52 PM
I want all plantings in , no mulch. And let me install the lawn heads before ya finish rake.Foolish to finish rake twice.

bobw
08-26-2011, 05:46 PM
I've always demanded to be in first, then the plantings. The only ceveat is "tell me where the trees are going."

Around here, we let the landscapers plant the trees before we do our thing. They can lay sod and plant shrubs after we leave.

txirrigation
08-26-2011, 06:22 PM
Yep, all volunteer. I get my work done by starting early and working through lunch usually. I do have a capable laborer who is able to assist in everything except controller installation/wiring. By the way my business also does contract grounds maintenance as well as irrigation and chemical applications. I could grow it up again from the downturn in the economy but I am in a "holding" pattern waiting for the pesky irs details.

txirrigation - those jacked up F450-F550 trucksare sweet to look at but are worth bumpkis in the brush. Way too long and wide plus they weigh way way way too much and munch tires faster than a three dollar crack ho with a fresh rock. In my a.o. the ranchers specialize in growing, well rocks and dense cedar, making it vital to have a srw 1 ton 4X4 regular cab with behemoth front and rear bumpers to bull into the active fire. This is why my department gets called out on mutual aide so much as we have the weather beaten trucks that are extremely capable-not much to look at or drive on the highway but they live for harsh use. I have posted this photo before, it is either a '66 or '67 Jeep Kaiser, equipped with a small block chevy and will go places those F450-550 trucks couldn't even think of attempting to traverse.
The photo is what it looks like from the cab when a nozzle man is on the front platform.

That makes a lot of since.... in two ways. One that they dont do that well becuase they are GIANT. Another is that the City spent my money like foolish highschool kids... it's big and shinny lets buy that one!!!!

AI Inc
08-27-2011, 06:58 AM
That makes a lot of since.... in two ways. One that they dont do that well becuase they are GIANT. Another is that the City spent my money like foolish highschool kids... it's big and shinny lets buy that one!!!!

Dont feel bad , in the early 90,s the city of Pompano beach fla bought a tower unit. Sold it at a huge loss a few yrs later after realizing the tallest building in town was 3 stories.

TexasFire221
08-27-2011, 07:48 AM
No, that is a different task force. I was in on the fire just south of Marble Falls at the intersection of state hwy 71 and 281. 16 hours in various brush trucks the first evening through to the next morning then intermittently about another 10 hours across Saturday and Sunday. I was also in on the large grass fire in Round Mountain although I drove a tanker that day for seven hours - then in Bertram for TEEX training on vehicle extrication for two days. Busy month. Added it up yesterday, I am right at 71 hrs not counting vehicle maintenance.

Where are you out of?

txgrassguy
08-29-2011, 10:43 AM
Where are you out of?

I am out of my mother, however I reside in Spicewood essentially equidistant from Bee Caves and Marble Falls. The department is located at the south east end of the service area comprising 56 square miles of rural/ranch, housing developments and mixed use commercial.

Wet_Boots
08-29-2011, 11:13 AM
are the Bee caves near the Bat Cave?

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2228/batcavesign.jpg

txgrassguy
08-29-2011, 11:20 AM
Nah, about forty miles from the Congress avenue "Bat" bridge in downtown Austin.
Personally I don't get the weirdo city dwellers response to seeing a bunch of Mexican Free Tailed Bats flying out from under that bridge each night.

mitchgo
09-07-2011, 11:12 PM
Summer just started here

:)