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bigslick7878
08-27-2011, 01:54 AM
OK so I have a job that requires about an 80 foot perfectly straight run, with the wall basically shaped like an "L" overall ending against the house. (If you need a pic I can upload one). Wall looks just like the L shape, long run being the vertical part of the letter.

Pretty much all of the walls I have built have had some type of curve to them, because honestly I hate straight things in a landscape design and try to avoid it at all costs. Square just doesn't work for me.

But that is not possible here, and it has become increasingly frustrating trying to square things up with strings, eyes, tape measure you name it. We smartly stopped after 2 blocks starting the straight run because we knew it would be virtually impossible to line it up right and it would take us forever on top of it.

Bottom line is I see these laser levels go from $100 to $600, and it looks like most are for inside. I can't make heads or tails of a lot of the descriptions so far as if they will do 2 lines with a 90 angle which is what I need. A lot of them look like one horizontal line and one vertical line which is not what I need. I need 2 horizontal lines obviously.

I need one that I can see outside, will go that length and preferably has the tripod with it. Don't really care about cost, but obviously don't want to spend more than I need to if a less expensive model can get the job done.

This is a pretty steep slope the whole way up and I will need it high it can't be anywhere near the ground. All I need is to be able to put it on the lower left corner of the L(position wise, not height wise), and have a 90 degree angle off the point in either direction.

Any recommendations would be helpful, I know nothing about these things. I went into Home Depot and their selection was limited and I wasn't about to drop $430 on something I had not researched.

2low4NH
08-27-2011, 10:03 AM
spend $10 on string line $8 on grade stakes $20 on a 100+ tape measure. square off the house and use a 3-4-5 to square up. you are making it harder then it really is. measure off the house as much as you can and pull a line. the only laser you need is for shooting grade

nepatsfan
08-27-2011, 10:08 AM
spend $10 on string line $8 on grade stakes $20 on a 100+ tape measure. square off the house and use a 3-4-5 to square up. you are making it harder then it really is. measure off the house as much as you can and pull a line. the only laser you need is for shooting grade

Very good way to figure out square....6-8-10 on longer runs also.....

2low4NH
08-27-2011, 11:30 AM
as long as you go in multiples of 3-4-5 6-8-10 12-16-20 etc.

nepatsfan
08-27-2011, 12:15 PM
Exactly....we use that all the time. It's a great way to figure out square but I am suprised at how many people don't know it. It is 100% accurate and about as simple as you can get.

DVS Hardscaper
08-27-2011, 01:04 PM
Holy cow
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SVA_Concrete
08-27-2011, 01:46 PM
Holy cow
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my thoughts exactly...

bigslick7878
08-27-2011, 02:18 PM
spend $10 on string line $8 on grade stakes $20 on a 100+ tape measure. square off the house and use a 3-4-5 to square up. you are making it harder then it really is. measure off the house as much as you can and pull a line. the only laser you need is for shooting grade

Apparently you can't read. JFC.

DVS Hardscaper
08-27-2011, 02:43 PM
Apparently you can't read. JFC.

Amazing

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DVS Hardscaper
08-27-2011, 03:25 PM
At this point I think I'd rather not be able to "read" than not know how to do whAts known in construction as *pull
Corners*......

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nepatsfan
08-27-2011, 07:53 PM
Apparently you can't read. JFC.

You can't build a wall....the guy told you how to do it. Go buy a laser to get your 90

bigslick7878
08-27-2011, 08:39 PM
You people are worthless. Thanks for nothing. What a bunch of idiots.

2low4NH
08-27-2011, 08:48 PM
Bunch of idiots I guess I will take my 15 years and 4 generations of knowledge and drop it off at home depot where the cheap lasers are. If you want to play with the big boys you better be able to pull a line and not stand around with your dick in your hand pulling pud well the home owner is looking at you like a clown. you laid 2 block and gave up. Do you even have the base prepped because guess what that needs to be straight too! get your **** together before you ask a stupid question.

nepatsfan
08-27-2011, 08:51 PM
I will answer your question.

I think this will do just fine for what you are looking for

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202516267/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

xtreem3d
08-27-2011, 09:38 PM
not sure but that's a class 2 laser and even a class 3 can't be seen reliably in sunny conditions

2low4NH
08-27-2011, 10:27 PM
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=laser+square&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=14622938347144284996&sa=X&ei=HqdZTomAM4jfgQeftbWlDA&ved=0CFEQ8gIwAA

try this one accurate 1/2 at 30 feet and its under $25.00 bucks cant beat that a wall that 1" out of square before your done laying the first course

scagrider22
08-28-2011, 10:13 AM
Haha all you pros are idiots...says the guy who cant figure out how to square a wall with a house!

Have fun with looking for your little laser beem in the sun!

jonesy5149
08-28-2011, 10:36 AM
You people are worthless. Thanks for nothing. What a bunch of idiots.

Hey bigslick you should sub this one out. ITs a big job for your laser line:hammerhead::hammerhead::hammerhead::hammerhead:.
hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaahahahahahahahaa :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
This is great.....
you should get the block stretcher and the self leveling sand and 3/4 rock too.

scagrider22
08-28-2011, 10:52 AM
Hey bigslick you should sub this one out. ITs a big job for your laser line:hammerhead::hammerhead::hammerhead::hammerhead:.
hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaahahahahahahahaa :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
This is great.....
you should get the block stretcher and the self leveling sand and 3/4 rock too.

Haha you have a block strecher in the trailer too huh?

nepatsfan
08-28-2011, 10:57 AM
I dont think I have ever seen someone as rude as the OP. He asks for help, the guy tells him exactly how to do it, very nicely, and the guy calls everyone idiots. Whats up with that?

Bru75
08-28-2011, 12:39 PM
I dont think I have ever seen someone as rude as the OP. He asks for help, the guy tells him exactly how to do it, very nicely, and the guy calls everyone idiots. Whats up with that?

Guess he didn't get the answer he wanted.
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DVS Hardscaper
08-28-2011, 04:51 PM
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DVS Hardscaper
08-28-2011, 04:58 PM
I dont think I have ever seen someone as rude as the OP. He asks for help, the guy tells him exactly how to do it, very nicely, and the guy calls everyone idiots. Whats up with that?

Yeah BigSTICK has little man syndrome. I've had pleasant encounters with him on here a few months ago.

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bigslick7878
08-28-2011, 06:09 PM
LOL what a bunch of jackasses.

I CLEARLY stated in the OP that it was impossible to use the standard methods because of the property layout. The first course is oh about 10 FEET lower than the house, and I want PERFECTION not "close enough". The house is NOT A STRAIGHT LINE due to additions. The grade rises about 12 feet from the start of the wall to the end and wall will be stepped about 6 times, gonna be tough to lay out some string like that you fools.

DVS you are certified imbecile, and if you want to come meet me I will show you just what "little man syndrome" I have buddy. You got the wrong one.

I am right up the road from you tough guy, come out and play from behind your keyboard instead of running your mouth like you do here every day.

Just bought a CST-LM30PKG from Home Depot, so you all can go %^& yourselves.

Have a nice day.

xtreem3d
08-28-2011, 07:26 PM
i get what your trying to do ( i think) .......looks like a nice unit from the description .i have found the glasses are a big help but i wasn't in real bright sunlight...post some pics so people can understand your job better,.........and maybe check your bloodpressure .. hehe
Steve

DVS Hardscaper
08-28-2011, 07:42 PM
LOL what a bunch of jackasses.

I CLEARLY stated in the OP that it was impossible to use the standard methods because of the property layout. The first course is oh about 10 FEET lower than the house, and I want PERFECTION not "close enough". The house is NOT A STRAIGHT LINE due to additions. The grade rises about 12 feet from the start of the wall to the end and wall will be stepped about 6 times, gonna be tough to lay out some string like that you fools.

DVS you are certified imbecile, and if you want to come meet me I will show you just what "little man syndrome" I have buddy. You got the wrong one.

I am right up the road from you tough guy, come out and play from behind your keyboard instead of running your mouth like you do here every day.

Just bought a CST-LM30PKG from Home Depot, so you all can go %^& yourselves.

Have a nice day.


Looks like you need some geograghy help. Being Towson is of a lower elevation, that would make you DOWN the road. Important to know up vs down if you're installing drain tubing, or pipe........


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xtreem3d
08-28-2011, 07:47 PM
Can't we all just get along....
Rodney King: :waving:

2low4NH
08-28-2011, 08:54 PM
Wonder how all these old jobs were laid out before lasers? I guess you cant pull a line even a short line on a straight section of the house! i am sure the house is not round. run a straight edge up with a level plumb t the ground and bam a straight line. Mission impossible Just saying sometimes the old methods still work and work very well. even if you have a laser you still need to square to the house.

DVS Hardscaper
08-28-2011, 09:43 PM
Wonder how all these old jobs were laid out before lasers? I guess you cant pull a line even a short line on a straight section of the house! i am sure the house is not round. run a straight edge up with a level plumb t the ground and bam a straight line. Mission impossible Just saying sometimes the old methods still work and work very well. even if you have a laser you still need to square to the house.



My thoughts exactly. I always see it that way. I used to rent a huge old dairy barn that was built in 1929 that we used as our shop. It was the 2nd oldest dairy barn in the county. Next to the dairy barn was a BEAUTIFUL, old, STONE, bank barn that was built in the 1800's. And yes, I do have pictures of it. We were at that location for about 8 years. And at least once a week I would stand next to that barn marveling at the craftsmanship that went into it. The walls were as straight as could be, and the corners were PERFECT 90-degree corners. This was porn for me, I could not look at it enough. A real work of art and true craftsmanship.

There were no lasers back then.

No miter saws.

No Stihl chop saws.

No telebone fork lifts, no skid steers.

No plate compactors.

And as I would stand there staring at this structure I would always think to myself - "and they did all this without they tools we use today".

When we do jobs that are what I call "floating out in the yard", meaning there is nothing to measure off of - I always think of that old farm that we used to rent and I find a way to get it done.



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nepatsfan
08-31-2011, 08:48 PM
Can't we all just get along....
Rodney King: :waving:

I am normally an advocate of that but being that they are so close, I think they should probably settle it by fighting. I believe we have tried all the alternatives.:waving:

scagrider22
08-31-2011, 09:56 PM
I am normally an advocate of that but being that they are so close, I think they should probably settle it by fighting. I believe we have tried all the alternatives.:waving:

I will second that! Can somebody put it on youtube for me??