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Quality Lawn Care
11-01-2002, 11:51 AM
I have been mowing this acct. all summer and finally decided to measure it to see how well or how bad I bid it.

It's 202,000 sq. ft. It has some hills on it that I had to slow down on and a fair amount of trees to go around. Trimming took me about 1/2 an hour and blowing took me 5 min. I mowed it with a 52" Lazor, it looked great when I was done. I think I way under bid at $.79/ 1,000 sq. ft. ($160.00). I need to place a bid for next year and want it to be more profitable w/o lossing the acct. Any help would be great. Go Vikings!!!!

wattsup
11-01-2002, 12:09 PM
How long did it take you to mow? I do not have any experience with a 52", all I have ever run is a 61". With the information you have given I would have bid at @ $300. Do you know how many other bids were given?

Brickman
11-01-2002, 12:24 PM
For a prop that size to only have 1/2 hour of trimming is incredible. And the rest of it must be very wide open to make any money on mowing at $160. My only experience with any thing that big had tons and tons of trimming. As such the price was much higher than yours.

Quality Lawn Care
11-01-2002, 12:42 PM
It took me 4 hours, I could have spend more time trimming but I knew I under bid it so I tried to hit the high spots each time.

rross
11-01-2002, 12:59 PM
I would be right around $400.00 personally. It is open with some trees, very little tress for the size of the property it sounds like.

Guido
11-01-2002, 01:37 PM
Without knowing your overhead or drive time to the job.......

I'd say at least $275, but probobly no more than $325 or so.......


Like I said, that can be great, good, or bad, all depending on YOUR overhead, NOT what we "guess" as a price.

Esby
11-01-2002, 01:40 PM
Thats alot of sqaure foot to cover in that amount of time, but seems feasible with the amount of trimming that you say is required. One other thing I would take into consideration is how smooth the terrain is? What I mean, is this 4 hours of getting your back pounded, or is it 4 hours of just nice mowing. As much as you want to get alot more money from this account, you also have to stay competitive with in your area. All it takes is one other company to underbid you by $20-40 and you might be taking a hike. But one other thing, this seems like pretty easy mowing, you are making very good time on it. This into account you can't charge the same per 1,000 as if you were mowing some steeper embankment, or a property with tons of trees and houses. Personally, I think 0.79 is a little under bid, I would go with something in the range of 0.85-0.95. This brings your total range to $172-192 Now tack on .60hrs @ $35/ hr for trimming/blowing and you get an addition $21. This brings a new total of $193-213. I am not sayin you would be underbidding if you were somewhere between your $160-190, this depends on the property and I have not seen it. I know you would just love to raise it up to $250 or $300, but if you merely double your price from one season to the next, they more than likely are going to look elsewhere to find a cheaper bid. Good luck-Esby

LAWNS AND MOWER
11-01-2002, 02:59 PM
What's your hourly rate? $40 might be low since you're using a 52 inch mower. Also consider that you have zilcho drive time for 4 hours. Use the Wally World formula and price it at $197. Good luck.

greenman
11-01-2002, 09:41 PM
Around $300.

mowngrow
11-01-2002, 09:58 PM
$275.00 -$300.00 depending how bad you want the account

CSRA Landscaping
11-01-2002, 11:34 PM
$300 per visit.

Barkleymut
11-02-2002, 05:59 AM
A buck a minute. Maybe go down to 90 cents since it is a larger property.

GarPA
11-02-2002, 07:21 AM
around $300...maybe a little less depending on how it fits into your route/schedule...is it on a contract? I would insist on that part ...hopefully they like your work and reliability because I'm sure so yahoo will mow that for a $100

Shady Brook
11-02-2002, 09:03 AM
Does it always take you 4 hours to mow, or in the spring did it take you much longer with the greater growth that usually accompanies spring. Think about how busy you are now, is this lower hourly job displaceing, higher dollar stuff you could be doing? If it is, raise it to where you need to, to be in line with your other pricing. If you are not near capacity, be careful not to up the price to high at any one time, $40/hr is not great, but it is better then sitting at home. Also, maybe if this job has some visibility, you may get some extra income from it. Just some thoughts.

Jay

Premo Services
11-03-2002, 10:26 AM
It's 202,000 sq. ft. It has some hills on it that I had to slow down on and a fair amount of trees to go around. Trimming took me about 1/2 an hour and blowing took me 5 min. I mowed it with a 52" Lazor, it looked great when I was done. I think I way under bid at $.79/ 1,000 sq. ft. ($160.00). I need to place a bid for next year and want it to be more profitable w/o lossing the acct. Any help would be great

I am in the same boat right now. A neighbor has asked me to bid on his property. He would always ask me questions about his lawn. I always thought he wanted me to do the lawn, but I was scared of the neighbor horror stories I have heard and read about. After some conversation with him, I believe that we could keep the business seperate from our friendship.
This Sept. I approached him to see if he wanted a bid for aeration and slit seeding of his lawn. He said with enthusaism, yes give me a bid. I bid the work and he accepted and asked me to do some mulching, which I did also.
I know that the year before last year he was paying 150.00 for lawn mowing. I believe it would take me 3-3 1/2 hr to do by myself. I am thinking I could raise it to 165-170, but much more and it would be too much. I would get the mulching, trimming, landscpe maint also with this. I have thought about not having to drive to job, that is a plus. I am still thinking about this, but need to give a bid.

rodfather
11-03-2002, 04:35 PM
$300 - $325 should cover it.

wattsup
11-03-2002, 04:52 PM
Premo, if you get it at 165-170 I would take it. No drive time etc. Plus, you get all of the other work. I would dream of a job like that. I do some work for friends, and I have never had a problem.

GarPA
11-04-2002, 06:42 AM
well I guess we have different experiences...I am done doing work for neighbors, friends and relatives...in general they take advantage of you and then when you hold to your price/procedure, they cop an atttiude...happened in almost every case....guess I have "sucker" written on my forehead

greenman
11-04-2002, 10:33 AM
I agree kitzy. I get sick and tired of doing "favors" for people. Not going to do it anymore.

Sean Adams
11-04-2002, 04:34 PM
Is it you mowing alone? Do you have a preset hourly rate? Everyone's advice pretty much hit the nail on the head. Best of luck.