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11-01-2002, 01:22 PM
I stumbled across this site while looking for information about commercial lawn care. I must say the info that I have gained from this site has been amazing and I have only looked in this forum so I know there is tons of other stuff to learn about.
So here is a little history on me. I have been working part time in lawn care. I have a few residential lawns in my area. I have been using a 21 since they have been small lawns. Now I have the opportunity to pick up a lawn-mowing rig. It consists of a used 36 Scag WB with sulky, a used 48 John Deere WB, Two Line trimmers (Ryobi and Ryan), dethacther and leaf broom (Both of which have been modified to attach on the front Scag), a Echo hedge trimmer, and a 10 ½ by 7 trailer. Now as for the shape of the mowers and the equipment is a bit rough I know with some TLC that they could be some mean machines. My guess is that they are from the early 90s however I am not sure. The total cost of this package is $1500.00. Do you think that this is a good investment for a guy who is looking to get into the business and possible go full time?
The Lawn Choupique
11-01-2002, 07:30 PM
The best route to go is to look in the paper and purchase two or three one season old 21" push mowers. At this time of the year I buy a couple of them for around $50 each. Use them for the next season and throw them away. You will be able to keep your equipment cost as far as mowers go to less than $150 per year. One of the best ways to grow and prosper in this business is to keep cost to a absolute minimun. Throw in a couple of $40 weedeaters, a $60 blower and you will have less than $500 per year total equipment cost. Your net profits will be close to 90%.
Follow this tried and ture path to success and soon you will be asking how to go about minimizing the tax bite that you will soon be feeling as the profits start rolling in.
11-01-2002, 07:44 PM
the rig you described COULD be a very good deal. what kind of condition is the trailer in?? does it have a nice ramp? good sides? trimmer racks? tool box?
dont judge a book by its cover.......... do the wb's look rough? or do they run rough??? are the trimmers straight shaft or curved?? how do they run???? if the trailer is good, and the rest might need a tune up, its a great deal. give us some more details and we will help you out more.
11-01-2002, 08:58 PM
sounds like a good deal to me. even if they are roungh. 1500 clams is pretty cheap for the rig your describing. your talking about 10k for that setup brand new. just gonna have to give em' some TLC.
11-02-2002, 12:07 AM
I have only seen them so far. Not sure how they run I am going to check them out tomorrow. From what I can see the WB are Belt driven, They look a little beat up(Need to be cleaned and painted)however the owner said that they ran great last season. From just looking at the engines there is no oil vilsible. The Scag has a Kohler 14.5hp I believe and the John Deere Kawisaki(SP?) which is an electric start. They have been stored indoors so I am guessing that they should be ok but I will see.
As far as the trimmers they were curved shafts not straight. I have never owned a straight shaft so I can't compare the two. (My guess from looking at the cost straight seem the better way to go.)
As for the trailer it appears to be in good shape it is a single axle with a new wood deck and new 2 foot tall sides. I am not sure if the gate acted as a ramp or not I couldn't tell from the angle it was parked. No racks or tool boxes put I have access to a metal shop so I could weld up some racks in a heartbeat as for tool boxes my 87 F250 has a 3 boxes(One behind the cab and two down the sides) Do you think I will need more boxes? I was guessing the I would need some spare parts for feild repairs(Blades, belts ect..) bu I figured that they wouldn't take up much room.
Thanks for the feedback
11-02-2002, 12:13 AM
sounds pretty cheap. is it stolen??? i would certainly ask to feild test the equipment. if its runs good take it to the shop and have a good mechanic take a look but for 1500.00 it sounds pretty good
11-02-2002, 10:25 AM
For 1500 I would check it out pretty quick, if it isn't junk it will be gone before you know it.
Sounds like you have enough tool boxes on your truck. I have the same thing and works out well.
11-02-2002, 11:06 AM
By far the largest majority here will go for commercial grade equip that will last far longer than one season. Keep that in mind.
Lawn Chopper I have had those $500 total equipment packages you describe. THEY SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11-02-2002, 01:15 PM
It sounds like a good deal. I would toss the trimmers though, or at least invest a few hundred into a real trimmer to use as front line equipment. Maybe Lawn Chipoque will by the Ryobi and Ryan from you? ;)
Good Luck, let us know how it turns out!
11-08-2002, 02:25 PM
:D:blob3: :D I am know the proud owner of the aforementioned equipment. I hauled them down to a local dealer and had them given the once over. The only thing that is wrong with all of the equipment is that the electric starter on the 48" is shot (Can be fixxed for $200) The only other things that I need to do is get a blower, and make a longer ramp for the trailer. I will take some pics of the stuff and post them as soon as I get a chance.
11-08-2002, 03:40 PM
Glad to hear that you got a deal. Getting it checked out by a dealer was a very smart move. Lets see some pictures.
11-08-2002, 07:52 PM
Congrats on your new gear. You have all winter to tweak and buff it. I would love to see the pics!
I am in your area so if you see any more deals like this please let me know as I am looking to buy some equipment.
11-15-2002, 01:29 PM
36" Scag WB and Trailer
11-15-2002, 01:36 PM
John Deer 48 WB
11-15-2002, 01:39 PM
Trimmers Echo Straight, Ryobi and Ryan Curved
11-15-2002, 01:41 PM
Echo Hedge Trimmer
11-15-2002, 01:42 PM
that scag looks like its got alot of life left in her does not look that beat up to me . the trailer has a bit to be desired but you can always upgrade later on when you can afford it
11-15-2002, 01:43 PM
It turns out that the 48 JD needs a new starter and drive pulley. The JD Dealer said may cost around $400. So this brings my total to $1900 for the whole package. I am quite pleased. One get everything Cleaned up and painted I will post some after pics.
Thanks for all the support guys,
11-15-2002, 02:30 PM
Great stuff! Looks good to me. A little paint and some tweaking.
Don't forget to Armor All the gas tank on the Scag. Makes em look brand new.
11-15-2002, 04:15 PM
A pictures worth a thousand words. It wasnt the great deal I was thinking about when I first read the post.
In my opinion the only thing I saw that was decent was the Scag and it is probably worth around $700.00-$1000.00 (I see the safety switch is hanging off the side- check it over good).
I really thought the trailers would be the steal of the deal but you couldnt pay me to take it.
I hope this post isnt too abrasive, as I am just trying to be honest about what I see. I just hope the previous owner took enough care to change the oil in the Scag regularly. Looking at the condition of the hedge trimmer I would doubt it.
Good luck with your new toys..I sincerly hope you get them running good without much investment.
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