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joelcoqui
10-07-2011, 03:52 PM
Where do I start? Should I dethatch or Barricade first. The Japanese stiltgrass is browning up on 1 acre residential property. Cant use Roundup, way to much renovating. It seems to be pulling up easy enough but cant hand pick cause its much to densely situated. Any suggestions?? Attached are pics. Thank you.

dKoester
10-07-2011, 05:10 PM
Get yourself some fescue that grows by rhizomes. Keep it properly fertilized and it will out compete it next year.

joelcoqui
10-07-2011, 05:23 PM
That grass doesnt feel plush and easy on bare feet. no?

dKoester
10-07-2011, 05:28 PM
That grass is beautiful! It repairs itself.

Birdman
10-07-2011, 06:19 PM
Get yourself some fescue that grows by rhizomes. Keep it properly fertilized and it will out compete it next year.

Can you type me what type(s) of fescue grows by rhizomes so that I can get some?

Thanks

mdlwn1
10-07-2011, 07:27 PM
Get yourself some fescue that grows by rhizomes. Keep it properly fertilized and it will out compete it next year.

Absolute BULL SHIAT

mdlwn1
10-07-2011, 07:33 PM
I've had a MAJOR occurrence of it as well this year. In the woods...in the lawn...etc. To the OP. I will be using Barricade MUCH earlier next spring as I don't really know what else to do. Haven't had this happen to me in the 20 years I've been doing this. I can only wonder if it has to do with the deep snowpack the past two seasons. The other possibility is that Barricade doesn't deal with it like,.... eww Pre-M does?

joelcoqui
10-07-2011, 07:38 PM
Would you dethatch before the Barricade?

mdlwn1
10-07-2011, 08:19 PM
If I was looking to dethatch......yes I would, but you would be talking so early the grass might still be dormant.

dKoester
10-07-2011, 08:27 PM
Absolute BULL SHIAT

Is this a joke? Should I dig you up some with pics? I got lots of it. I could show you the Rhizomes and all. I'll even wash the roots so you can get a real good look at awesomeness. Hope you were kidding. its a computer I can't tell if you were being sarcastic.

joelcoqui
10-07-2011, 08:28 PM
I just dont want to disturb more seeds from spreading, thats why I asked about the Barricade.l

joelcoqui
10-07-2011, 08:30 PM
Would you please name that seed.

dKoester
10-07-2011, 08:30 PM
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=rtf+grass&um=1&hl=en&safe=active&biw=1187&bih=608&tbm=isch&tbnid=lQWkN5kSYKrJiM:&imgrefurl=http://www.toddvalleyfarms.com/RTFWaterSaverSod.htm&docid=IFltxA2MRpoHiM&w=507&h=379&ei=LIuPTtGWIarosQLIrKXIAQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=336&page=1&tbnh=112&tbnw=156&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:14,s:0&tx=36&ty=39

RigglePLC
10-07-2011, 09:15 PM
Opinions vary on whether or not the later spread types actually make a difference.
Here is an example from Mtview seeds. Spyder LS.
http://www.mtviewseeds.com/Temp/DATASHEETS/Spyder.pdf

mdlwn1
10-08-2011, 02:32 PM
Is this a joke? Should I dig you up some with pics? I got lots of it. I could show you the Rhizomes and all. I'll even wash the roots so you can get a real good look at awesomeness. Hope you were kidding. its a computer I can't tell if you were being sarcastic.

It's BS to say that grass will out compete it and get rid of the problem. I have many different areas under all sorts of conditions...it has popped up in every one of them. There are without a doubt other factors involved. To tell someone that if they plant some particular variety of grass that their problem will go away is misleading. Maybe he should plant a southern grass...or better yet...never aerate...ever....lol. I have dense fine fescue, KBG, areas that are extremely thatchy, dense shade, woodland..etc. It's up everywhere...

dKoester
10-09-2011, 12:59 AM
It can outcompete! This type of grass has endophytes that can do 3 things. Reduce water needs, ward off certain bugs and even weeds. These little things colonize and form a relationship with there host to protect the plant making the plant more vigorous. They produce chemicals. Some of which are famous BTW. Endophytes you can study for months on these things.

dKoester
10-09-2011, 01:11 AM
http://pods.dasnr.okstate.edu/docushare/dsweb/Get/Document-2074/CR-3917web.pdf