New Stihl 4-cycle equipment

[goodbeus]

Anyone see the new Stihl 4-cycle trimmer...went in to get a new edger, and they had one in...started it up, it sound so sweet...quieter than the 2-cycle trimmers...salesman informed me next month they'll have the 4-cycle edgers...sweet...and then next summer, there will be a 4-cycle back pack blower available...salesman told me the distributor had tested the blower in Germany and no other blower came close to matching the power...the trimmer is .2 ounces heavier than the 2-cycle, which was my main concern thinking it would weigh a lot more than that...just thought I'd let you guys and gals know about it if you didn't already... :D

[yardman1]

My dealer told me to take the new stihl 4 mix out and put some hours on it and I did and did not like it a all, the power seemed to be sluggish and to me not enough head speed. But that is just me I guess, I like the 2 cycle myself.

[Green Pastures]

I've been told that by 2005 there will be no 2 cycle equipment available for sale AT ALL in the USA. If you like it better stock up now. I'm speaking of new equipment purchases from dealers of course.

[Jusmowin]

I demoed one last week around the dealership, the power seemed to be pretty but the trimmer was a little heavy compared to what Im used too. But thats just my 2 cents!

[021462]

If you are thinking 4 cycle you better start working out, cause I can tell you from experience it is HEAVY! It is also sluggish. I hope they correct these problems before they discontinue them!

[ilovethisgame]

4 cycle hand held equipment ugh... Did I mention I hate the EPA :angry:



-Dave

[LLMSERVICE]

I was at a trade show this past weekend and saw the new Honda 4 cycle trimmer. I'm not sure if they're introducing it in the US at this time as well but it seemed alright.

I also heard they're discontinuing 2 cycle manufacturing in 2005. I started switching over my 2 cycle Toro push mowers this year to 4 cycle and I'll tell you that you will notice the reduction in fumes you breath in. I'm willing to sacrifice a minor bit of power loss in the short term to save my lungs in the long run.

[Ryan Lightning]

I can just see everyone getting there 2 stroke equipment though ebay in 2006.

[ULTIMATE LAWN]

The new 4 stroke stuff will run on a gas oil mix. Power is better distributed than a conventional 2-stroke & it is lighter than a conventional 4 stroke.

I believe Shindaiwa was the first to introduce this new technology with their C4 engine on the T2500 trimmer.

[Jimbo]

Question is why???? Why would you run 2 cycle mix in a 4 stroke engine? Mixing costs more and is prone to fouling plugs.
The whole idea is to cut down on the pollution caused by the oils.

Please explain this one.

Jim

[Toroguy]

I thought the big deal was the noise from the 2 cycles?

[ULTIMATE LAWN]

Why?

Less noise, better fuel economy, lower emissions plus the benefits of conventional 2-stroke (weight, power, multi-position use)

[LAWNGODFATHER]

Originally posted by LLMSERVICE
I also heard they're discontinuing 2 cycle manufacturing in 2005.

So "WHO" is going to finally come out with a 4 cycle blower?

I think 2 years is pushing it, unless you are from C.A.R.B.

[goodbeus]

Stihl will release a 4-cycle blower next summer...I was also informed that the new 4-cycle follows the 2007 EPA regulations...

[KerryB]

I dont know guys, maybe the ones you tried out had a problem. The demo I tried the other day had more torque, you could turn it anywhich way without it cutting off, and I mean even upside down.
It had a longer shaft then the 85 does. just seemed like a better piece of equipment.

[Jimbo]

Originally posted by Toroguy:
I thought the big deal was the noise from the 2 cycles?

There are many forms of pollution I.E. noise pollution, visual pollution (signs/ billboards), and waste pollution (emissions, run-off).

In think it is obvious in this case the main reason for converting to 4-stroke engines is waste pollution since the MFG's have to meet deadlines set by the EPA. The manufacturers are not doing all this redesign for the good of the country...they are being forced to do it. It just happens that we can also reduce the noise pollution at the same time (pretty nice isn't it).

I'll spare you the speach about the economic impact of external diseconomies in a free market society.

See I am learning something in Economics class.

Jim

[JeanLouis]

I'm using a 4-cycle Honda trimmer for 2 years now.
No problems whatsoever.
It's the bigger model with bicycle handlebars and i use it for the bigger jobs only...(FS 85 for every day)
It maybe heavier, but I really like the engine noise: it's not screaming like a 2-cycle. Maybe less powerfull but so much torque that it's a pleasure to operate. Starts on first pull every time, and no need to mix oil and petrol anymore. Feel free to ask me any questions about it.