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douglee25
10-18-2011, 10:55 AM
I just purchased a 2010 Gravely Pro-turn 160 almost 3 weeks ago. Here's my story with some feedback for anyone interested.


2010 vs. 2011

Yes, it's October 2011 but I purchased a brand new leftover 2010 Gravely proturn 160. For the record, I called Gravely directly and we went through the exact model differences between 2010 and 2011. The differences are: 1. The 2010 has 1/2" height adjustment vs. 2011 that has 1/4" height adjustment. 2. The 2010 has ribbed front tires whereas the 2011 has smooth front tires. 3. The gas tank on the 2010 has a marginal amount of additional fuel vs. the 2011 (9.7 gallons vs. 9.4 gallons). Both models come with the 26hp Kawasaki motor. Other than that, they are identical.


Mower Use

I am getting back into landscaping part time to supplement my income. I did this for about 15 years, and for whatever reason I still enjoy being outdoors while making some additional money on the side. I still own a 48" Exmark walkbehind that I could have used, but I really want to minimize my time investment because I have so much other stuff going on during the year. Boating is one of my passions, and while my boating time may decrease slightly, I am not giving it up totally. In my area, the typical sized yard is 1/2 acre to 1 or 2 acres. Neighboring developments the yard sizes can average 1/3 acre up to 1/2 acre. It really depends where you get the business at.


Budget

I wanted to stay in $6k region if possible. I hadn't realized the prices of these machines had increased so much over the years. So after looking I realized I needed to increase my budget or go with a used machine. After about the third machine that I viewed, I capped my budget around $7500-$8000 but I wasn't really happy about this.


Mower Options

I briefly looked at homeowner grade zero turn riders, but I was not impressed. They were very light duty and I did not want to go down that road. I had such good luck with my 48" Exmark, that I knew commerical was the route I wanted to use. You guys will get a kick out of this... I don't know how this is even possible, but I still have the original belts on my Exmark from 15 years ago. The only thing I have had to do to that mower is grease, sharpen blades, and change the oil and filter. That is it! Anyway, we have a ton of mower shops in the surrounding Philadelphia suburbs. I visited 10 dealerships all within a 20 mile radius. I looked at the following mowers: Exmark, Toro, Hustler, Scag, Bobcat, World Lawn, Bad Boys, Gravely, Kubota, and Ferris (I think that's all of them). I began my search and started with the Bad Boys mowers. On paper they seemed like the mower I would go with. I was further impressed with the mowers when I showed up and demoed them. I checked the the ZT, the CZT, and the Pup series. The ZT was eliminated because it was shifted more towards the homeowner side, but the CZT did impress me, and the Pup really impressed me. Pricing for the CZT was $5600 and the Pup was around $7200. The Pup fit me better and the overall machine was just more beefy. That set the baseline. From there I checked out all the other brands. I am 6'2" and 230ish with a large frame. Sitting on some of these machines I found them to be rather small for my size. My knees and legs would literally hit the control levers. Comfort was a top concern of mine.

In the end I narrowed it down to the Exmark S-series ($7400 special)?, the Bobcat Procat ($8999 with a $500 little wonder blower special or $400 rebate?), the Bad Boy Pup ($7200), and the Gravely Pro-turn ($7200). I was open to deck size from 52" up to 60". The Gravely dealer who I've known forever told me he would give me $200 off if I bought now. I asked about pricing for the 2012 models and he showed me the price list. 2012 pricing was 5% greater. In the end the dealer was saving me about $560 if I bought now vs. spring of 2012. The Gravely fit me awesome too! My first ever walkbehind that I used was a Gravely pro50 way back in the 90's. They were built like tanks! If that was any indication how the new ones were, I knew this had to be a good machine. If money wasn't an option, I may have gone with the Bobcat. I had similar luck with them over the years and they also build a great machine. Anyway, I called one dealer in NJ as a last ditch effort for price matching, and he had a leftover 2010 Gravely model. He was also willing to waive the sales tax for an out of state order as well. In the end, I received a 2010 Gravely pro-turn 160 for $6200 out the door. I was very pleased to say the least.:)


2010 Gravely pro-turn 160 Review

I brought the mower home, checked the level on the deck, checked the fluids again, adjusted the tire pressure, and off I went. Initial impressions out of the box were that this machine was a good fit for my size. The mower comes standard with a suspension seat and it's adjustable for weight. It's very comfy riding through a bumpy yard with this seat. I did not feel fatigued at all.

The pro-turn 100 series mowers come with the ZT 3400 hydros which are good for 10 mph. If you upgrade to the 200 series, I believe they come with the ZT 5400's. Again, the 3 week impression is that this machine is very very smooth with these hydros. It seems to be very well balanced using the sticks for motion control. The sticks also have the ability to adjust in several different positions for rider comfort. Gravely also has a nice feature on the controls when the operator goes to exit the machine. Rather than finding the exact neutral position and then swinging the sticks to the side, these controls just fold up out of the way. Simple yet effective.

The deck on this machine appears to be very heavy duty. It's a 7 gauge deck with 0.25" spindle reinforcement. No doubt this machine is commercial quality. Deck raising is done very easily with the foot adjustment. Height adjustment is done via a simple pin/hole combination. Again, the deck on the 2010 model is in 1/2" increments vs. the 2011 which is 1/4" increments. The mower out of the box strips very very well. I noticed the deck has great vacuum and seemed to cut great. Again, I can't emphasize enough that I was really impressed with this cut and the striping ability out of the box.

The engine is your typical 26 hp Kawasaki FX series engine. There isn't much to say about these engines except that it has a ton of power and they are very reliable. I cut this one lawn that hadn't been cut in over 3 weeks... no bogging whatsoever. The air filtration system looks to be very well designed from what they were years ago. The only thing I do not like about the engine is the oil filter placement. It seems somewhat hard to access. Fuel consumption appears to be around 1 gallon per hour? I will have to verify this for sure. Again, the unit has a 9.7 gallon fuel setup.

Access on the machine is also very easy. The foot tray swings up for pully adjustments. The seat also flips up for battery access and hydro reservoir top off. ROPS is standard on the machine along with the suspension seat. Tire sizes are 13x6.50 - 6 for the front, and 23x10.50 - 12 for the rear. The machine is about 1075 pounds and comes with a 2 year commericial warranty, lifetime warranty on the deck, and 3 year spindle warranty.

That's about all I can think of at the moment. Hope this helps someone in the future.

Thanks again.

Doug

douglee25
10-18-2011, 11:09 AM
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hammmerhead
10-18-2011, 02:48 PM
Congrats, you got a very tough mower at a great price. Personally, I think Gravely is one of the best value's out there period.

MOturkey
10-18-2011, 06:11 PM
Congratulations on the mower. I just have to mention this. That is one strange looking trailer! I don't believe I've ever seen one with wheel wells like that, and can't really think of a reason why one would be made that way. I'm not knocking your equipment, just have never seen one built like that.

douglee25
10-18-2011, 06:32 PM
Congratulations on the mower. I just have to mention this. That is one strange looking trailer! I don't believe I've ever seen one with wheel wells like that, and can't really think of a reason why one would be made that way. I'm not knocking your equipment, just have never seen one built like that.

That is just a small utility trailer that I have. It appears to be a home built trailer. I've owned it for about 8 years. It definitely is weird looking and I don't like the fact that the wheel wells are built up like that on the interior of the trailer. For $150 bucks though, I can't complain too much. I originally used it to haul my motorcycle, but it works great to haul stone, mulch, wood, lawn equipment, etc.

Doug

outlaw1960
10-21-2011, 09:08 AM
Nice review.

lawnspecialties
10-21-2011, 05:15 PM
I have a 2010 152. I also have a 148 and an '08 260 and 252.

If someone decided one day that we could all own just one mower, it would be my 152. That's the best all-around mower I've ever had.

mowerman90
10-21-2011, 07:43 PM
I've got a 2011 ProTurn160 also. Bought it in June of this year and now have about 210 hrs on it. Not one bit of trouble from it so far. :cool2:

Hawkshot99
10-22-2011, 12:59 AM
Is your chute mounted backwards?

StanWilhite
10-22-2011, 05:32 PM
Congrats on your new "ride"! My son bought a new '08 252 (Kawi AC 26hp) and has really been happy with it. His only concern has been what seems to be excessive valve chatter. He has about 300 hrs on it and I think Kawi says to adjust the valves at about 300 hrs so maybe that will quieten them down.

I have a BB Lightning that I'm happy with, but in my opinion I agree that Gravely is one of the better values around.

Stan

douglee25
10-22-2011, 08:16 PM
I have a 2010 152. I also have a 148 and an '08 260 and 252.

If someone decided one day that we could all own just one mower, it would be my 152. That's the best all-around mower I've ever had.

That's good to hear! I can't argue with you at all. I think it's a great mower.

I've got a 2011 ProTurn160 also. Bought it in June of this year and now have about 210 hrs on it. Not one bit of trouble from it so far. :cool2:

Awesome!

Is your chute mounted backwards?

It can be installed like that if you want the chute out of the way. There is a spring loaded pin and a knob that you remove and the chute just swings up and then you turn it around and it installs in the correct position should you want to use it.

Congrats on your new "ride"! My son bought a new '08 252 (Kawi AC 26hp) and has really been happy with it. His only concern has been what seems to be excessive valve chatter. He has about 300 hrs on it and I think Kawi says to adjust the valves at about 300 hrs so maybe that will quieten them down.

I have a BB Lightning that I'm happy with, but in my opinion I agree that Gravely is one of the better values around.

Stan

That's good to know. I would agree that adjusting the valves may quiet it down. I used to have similar chatter on an old Honda engine.

Doug

danrclem
10-23-2011, 09:57 PM
Congrats on the new mower. I was all set to buy a Scag but I'm starting to rethink my choice and it may be a Gravely. I know the Scag is a great mower but it's also very pricey.

I have a 2010 152. I also have a 148 and an '08 260 and 252.

If someone decided one day that we could all own just one mower, it would be my 152. That's the best all-around mower I've ever had.

Why do you like the 152 over the 252 or 260? I will be mowing some smaller areas and some open areas that are fairly hilly and was considering a 260. I found a 2010 252 for $6,500.00 plus tax but really wanted a bigger deck. Any feedback that may help me in a decision would be appreciated.

hammmerhead
10-25-2011, 03:02 PM
Congrats on the new mower. I was all set to buy a Scag but I'm starting to rethink my choice and it may be a Gravely. I know the Scag is a great mower but it's also very pricey.



Why do you like the 152 over the 252 or 260? I will be mowing some smaller areas and some open areas that are fairly hilly and was considering a 260. I found a 2010 252 for $6,500.00 plus tax but really wanted a bigger deck. Any feedback that may help me in a decision would be appreciated.



Thats not a bad price for the 252. However, the 200 series and small areas dont go hand in hand. If you are ok with the size of that machine, pull the trigger and make the dealer cover the tax. I wouldnt lose sleep over the 52" deck, actually I would prefer the 52" deck. You could cut 10 rows with the 52 and 10 rows with the 60 and there would only be roughly a 6.5 foot loss. I would take that extra pass or two for better maneuverabilty unless you are cutting 2+ acre properties all the time. If you ever add a bagger it will extend the deck by around 10-12 inches as well, after that you may have something that is too big to use or cause you to eat up more time trimming than its saving you going with the wider deck.

mowing4rlife
11-16-2011, 02:49 PM
I am planning on purchasing the 52" Pro-Turn 100 Zero Turn Mower this coming year. Does anyone in North West Arkansas know how much this mower is going for? Price + Tax?

hammmerhead
11-16-2011, 05:36 PM
I am planning on purchasing the 52" Pro-Turn 100 Zero Turn Mower this coming year. Does anyone in North West Arkansas know how much this mower is going for? Price + Tax?

I heard there was a 5-10% increase coming for 2012 Gravely line, but there is always a little room for negotiating. Im figuring a 152 could be had for $6900-$7200 comparing to what I paid for my 2011 152. You can find a 2011 model in the $6500-6700 range easy, possibly a little cheaper this late in the year. The local taxes always suck. That might be a good bargaining chip for you when dealing with the dealer.

PM me if you are interested in talking with a Central AR dealer that also carries Scag. I know they have a few 200 series and they did have a 148 and 160, but I havent been by in a while.

RGM
11-16-2011, 06:50 PM
I have a 260 pro turn and its a beast 29 hp koller fuel injected much better on gas then my old '99 exmark 60'' lazer with the 23 hp koller. Its not quite the as good on the hills as my lazer have to slow down a bit so it keeps its line but makes up for it how it does on the flats very fast and a great cut. I have had it out on a couple of fields with 2-3 foot tall grass and 2 passes at
5'' it give a real good cut. Overall very happy

douglee25
11-16-2011, 08:51 PM
I heard there was a 5-10% increase coming for 2012 Gravely line, but there is always a little room for negotiating. Im figuring a 152 could be had for $6900-$7200 comparing to what I paid for my 2011 152. You can find a 2011 model in the $6500-6700 range easy, possibly a little cheaper this late in the year. The local taxes always suck. That might be a good bargaining chip for you when dealing with the dealer.

PM me if you are interested in talking with a Central AR dealer that also carries Scag. I know they have a few 200 series and they did have a 148 and 160, but I havent been by in a while.

My dealer showed me pricing for the 2012 models and it was in fact 5% greater than 2011 pricing. Pricing for the 2011 model for a 160 Pro-turn was $7299 I believe. At the end of the season this year he would have given it to me for $7000 out the door.

Doug