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sharpcuts
10-26-2011, 08:26 PM
Just wondering if anyone on here has bought into this & what you think about it.
My brother-in-law has been looking into it a little & asked me what I thought.

I know there are alot of guys on here that would never consider a franchise.

I want to hear from those of you that have first hand knowledge of this bunch.
Pros & Cons.

larryinalabama
10-26-2011, 08:32 PM
Never herd of them. Theres US Lawns, they wany you to invest 100kplus its rediciouls. You would be far better off purcahsing a exhisting busineess if the price was reasonable.

sharpcuts
10-26-2011, 08:40 PM
They're relatively new in the US. Been doing it in Canada for a while.

They want around 23k in the US. The canada website is http://www.sunshinelandscape.com/

larryinalabama
10-26-2011, 08:58 PM
From my life experenceis I will say I wouldnt do it. They want 23k for nothing then Im sure they want you tpo purcahase trucks from them.

A Franchise in lawncare really serves no purpose,a fast food franchise might be worth something. No one knows suhshine gras cutters bit everyone knows McDonalds

sjessen
10-26-2011, 09:28 PM
Got a call from them earlier in the summer. When they found out I was solo and in my 60's they said thanks but no thanks.

stickleylawncare
10-26-2011, 09:31 PM
Apparently the only franchise in FL is in my county, but Ive never seen them up her in the north part of St Johns. I see a US lawns truck and Brickman? every now and then. Tons of Valleycrest.

z71tiger
10-26-2011, 10:32 PM
I called them because I was curious. I Answered the questions they asked me and they said they would send me some information and call me back in a couple weeks to go over it, I never got the information nor a call back.
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AintNoFun
10-27-2011, 09:27 AM
From my life experenceis I will say I wouldnt do it. They want 23k for nothing then Im sure they want you tpo purcahase trucks from them.

A Franchise in lawncare really serves no purpose,a fast food franchise might be worth something. No one knows suhshine gras cutters bit everyone knows McDonalds

do you think mcdonalds started out with 1000's of stores right out of the gate?

32vld
10-27-2011, 10:01 AM
Why pay someone $23,000 so you can mow lawns?

Are they going to give you customers?

Then as another poster said one franchiser wants $100,000.

For what?

If one has $100,000 they can buy a new 4wd pickup 1/2 or 3/4, trailer loaded with a 34" and 60" mowers, line trimmer, back pack blower, hedge trimmer, snow plow.

What's that franchiser giving us for $100,000?

PTP
10-27-2011, 10:11 AM
I looked into them. I think that it would be a good opportunity for the right person. I spoke with a couple of guys who had the franchise and they had grown quite a bit and were quite happy with the franchise.

Yes, there is an upfront fee and your equipment has to be up to their standards. You might have to buy new trucks or that sort of thing.

It just wasn't for me. The reasons being that I pay my employees significantly higher than their model allows for. That would mean that I would have to likely start over in the employee department. I am also strongly committed to going cash only in my business and I was not ready to finance new equipment or finance the franchise fee.

Quality Cuts PLS
10-27-2011, 12:54 PM
They don't really send you anything, couple of links to some articles. They rather you go to their headquarters in Waco, Tx. to see how everything works.

sjessen
10-27-2011, 05:24 PM
They are at GIE/Expo.

Aaronnc
10-27-2011, 06:16 PM
I think owning a mowing franchise is a great idea!

As a matter of fact, I just started one 10 minutes when I was on the can!

Here's what you do. Go out and buy $75k worth of equipment, trucks, and trailers. Now bleed, sweat, and advertise and get a whole bunch of clients.
Now, send me $75k and I'll send you a couple of truck door magnets and some letterhead.

Can't afford it? No problems, I have some ex-Lehman Brothers employees on speed dial who keep in touch Bernie Maddoff and we can set you up with a sub-prime mortgage broker who can get a loan at 5% but will probably end up at 10-20% when the smoke clears. The cost of doing business! No worries! Keep sending me $1k every month. You better do it, or I'll take my door magnets back.

If you ever run into any problems, I'll give you my nephews phone number, and he'll walk you thru anything you need. Bingo. Recipe for nothing but success.

Send your $100k to: Aaronnc dba Valleybrick-McGrounds USA


I've got some Nigerian e-mail address pyramid schemes also this week only 50% off!!!

zturncutter
10-27-2011, 06:21 PM
Is Tommy Ganz, the ex ALMA guru still involved with this ?

ALEX'S LANDSCAPING
10-27-2011, 10:42 PM
Here in Canada they have been here for a while I see them on the street EVERYDAY
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leoc
02-22-2014, 06:19 PM
You have to think for a moment. They have a system that small landscaping and lawn service companies could not afford the start up money gets you going right of the bat they a marketing and sales, a National brand image strategic Accounts, social media, operation Synergy Owner and employee sales and marketing training. I can keep going these are components that are worth millions you really need to look into it I am considering the franchise, it is very hard for some one to do sales and run the business at once and if you are smart enough you get people to do that for you.

leoc
02-22-2014, 06:26 PM
Really? do you own a business? I bet you have been very successful.

vanncann
02-23-2014, 12:02 PM
Went and visited there site in Waco TX and enjoyed there campus... Very organized company... Is it for everybody??? As for the fees, not to piece compared to other franchises in this industry... The support and discounts might make it worth it if they can deliver the national accounts to talk to...

HPSInc
03-12-2014, 02:12 AM
If i bought into a franchise it would be a Tim Hortons, not a landscape company!

aaron86
03-13-2014, 08:06 PM
Franchise's are just another scab on the industry plain and simple companies like this here in Canada will go to no extent to lie cheat and steal work from the private businesses we have had to threaten multitudes of the so called professionals with legal action over their practices they are known to follow our trucks around wait for you to leave then attempt to poach the job to conclude my little rant be careful when they are around their practices are very questionable and dangerous for companies like myself

cpllawncare
03-22-2014, 02:06 AM
Franchise's are just another scab on the industry plain and simple companies like this here in Canada will go to no extent to lie cheat and steal work from the private businesses we have had to threaten multitudes of the so called professionals with legal action over their practices they are known to follow our trucks around wait for you to leave then attempt to poach the job to conclude my little rant be careful when they are around their practices are very questionable and dangerous for companies like myself

Here's a plain and simple fact for you, if you had such practices going on with this company why didn't you call the corporate offices? I've not known any such things around here to back up your story!

aaron86
03-22-2014, 09:06 AM
Here's a plain and simple fact for you, if you had such practices going on with this company why didn't you call the corporate offices? I've not known any such things around here to back up your story!

We did that would be when we threatened legal action
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cpllawncare
03-22-2014, 09:32 PM
There are always a few bad apples you can't judge the whole franchise by the actions of one franchise alone, just sayin.

aaron86
03-22-2014, 09:45 PM
Just saying I know the franchises out this way are are screwing everyone they can our only saving grace is that people are starting to see their true colours
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vanncann
03-23-2014, 10:47 AM
With my experience in dealing with the Dwyer Group most of the people I have delt with have been very helpful and knowledgeable on any questions I have had... If you have a group following you and talking to customers after you leave that does not sound like the "usual" group of the Grounds Guys... It sounds like some dumb ass trying to milk your customer, but it does not sound like any of the people I have talked to with the Grounds Guys at all...

aaron86
03-23-2014, 11:19 AM
We'll it is good to hear that their not all a bunch of screw balls but which ever route you choose to go just rember your clients will always appreciate you more if you are honest with them than if you try to push unnessarry services on them your clients talk and word of mouth is always great advertising
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cpllawncare
03-23-2014, 04:00 PM
We'll it is good to hear that their not all a bunch of screw balls but which ever route you choose to go just rember your clients will always appreciate you more if you are honest with them than if you try to push unnessarry services on them your clients talk and word of mouth is always great advertising
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Aaron,

I would find out who the local franchise owner is and talk to him, he may not even be aware of what's going on, I've been in situations myself where my guys are doing stuff I was unaware of until a customer told me and I very quickly put a squash on it. When you have multiple crews out and around it's hard to know what all is going on, as an owner we can't be everywhere all the time, and as the old saying goes "When the cat is away the mouse will play"

aaron86
03-24-2014, 05:32 PM
I'm under the assumption they know because they are leaving their card
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jmkr02
04-19-2014, 09:49 AM
From my life experenceis I will say I wouldnt do it. They want 23k for nothing then Im sure they want you tpo purcahase trucks from them.

A Franchise in lawncare really serves no purpose,a fast food franchise might be worth something. No one knows suhshine gras cutters bit everyone knows McDonalds

mcdonalds started somewhere
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jmkr02
04-19-2014, 10:15 AM
Franchise vs having a subcontractor as your primary customer?
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vanncann
04-26-2014, 05:55 PM
If you have NOT been to Texas and spoke with the people you really should NOT post on this thread... If you have talked with them then you have something to discuss... Most of the people I have read posting on this thread REALLY don't no there ass from a hole in the ground!!!

cpllawncare
04-29-2014, 08:10 AM
if you have not been to texas and spoke with the people you really should not post on this thread... If you have talked with them then you have something to discuss... Most of the people i have read posting on this thread really don't no there ass from a hole in the ground!!!

here here!

GMLC
05-04-2014, 03:49 PM
I have been called by the Grounds Guys and many other franchises. When you buy a franchise you are buying the brand and their systems. You may also have access to a "coach" or manager to answer questions. You are not buying accounts or salesmen to help you get accounts. You may also get fleet pricing on equipment and vehicles.

A franchise was not for me as I have my systems in place and my company is established and is a known brand in my area. I already get fleet pricing as well.

I do feel some people that don't have these already in place can benefit from a franchise. The name is known and marketing materials are ready to go. Just keep in mind nothing is free...

On the other hand these systems are not hard to build and you can build a brand with some hard work. Local Score chapters often have free coaches available or you can hire a coach much cheaper than a franchise.

OneLineAtATime
06-08-2014, 07:17 PM
One poped up here in Columbus Ohio, then i herd a 2nd franchise was sold in Columbus as well.

That would piss me off

vanncann
06-08-2014, 08:05 PM
One poped up here in Columbus Ohio, then i herd a 2nd franchise was sold in Columbus as well.

That would piss me off

You do just buy areas... If the town is big enough there may b more than one franchise sold in an area... The owner of these areas DID know that this could happen!!! But like stated in previous posts, if you haven't talked with these people you don't know you'r ass from a whole in the ground on this topic!!!

OneLineAtATime
06-22-2014, 09:54 PM
You do just buy areas... If the town is big enough there may b more than one franchise sold in an area... The owner of these areas DID know that this could happen!!! But like stated in previous posts, if you haven't talked with these people you don't know you'r ass from a whole in the ground on this topic!!!

We spoke with them for months.... A Joke

Mike Blevins
06-25-2014, 11:37 PM
First to hear you say they are joke makes me wonder if you tried to become one and got turned down. unfortunately not everyone can become a Grounds Guys franchise owner. There is certain criteria you have to meet. i went to Waco with my wife to check them out. Class act bunch of people who also own and sale 6 other franchises in the service industry. The one i recognized right off was The Glass Doctor.Anyway we stayed in touch and went over our business plans and decided to buy a franchise. Me being a firefighter I got a pretty good discount off the price of my franchise. We were somewhere around #82 franchise. There are around 165 franchises now. We started April 1st 2013 as The Grounds Guys of the tri-cities. We grew our business with the Grounds Guys help to more than double. So far in 2014 we have doubled that number already. Someone asked do they get you customers? Yep. Do they help you grow your business? Yep. They have systems and they have people with knowledge of the industry guiding and helping you in every way possible to help you succeed. Is it guaranteed your going to make it and not fail? NOPE! You have to do your part too. Is it stress full? HELL YES! but owning any business is stressful at times. Are you going to see eye to eye with your franchise consultant all the time ? NOPE. Its not for everyone but it has helped me with many different aspects of the business. There are so many people out there not making a dime doing this business. The Grounds Guys have taught me about setting goals, getting my numbers where they need to be, profit and loss statements, advertising for results, etc,etc,. I have a legit business now that is growing very fast and I am learning something new just about daily about this business. I have access to 165 other business owners just like me who have a wealth of business and field knowledge. I get national pricing on John deere,Exmark,Redmax, etc. that comes to about 45% off mowing equipment. A lot more that fleet pricing. I have access to vendors who offer services like payroll, workman's comp, ALOT cheaper than I could ever get it by myself. There are so many vendors that offer me discounts just because I am a Grounds Guy franchise owner. Great gig cant wait to get out in the field tomorrow!

OneLineAtATime
06-26-2014, 06:16 AM
First to hear you say they are joke makes me wonder if you tried to become one and got turned down. unfortunately not everyone can become a Grounds Guys franchise owner. There is certain criteria you have to meet. i went to Waco with my wife to check them out. Class act bunch of people who also own and sale 6 other franchises in the service industry. The one i recognized right off was The Glass Doctor.Anyway we stayed in touch and went over our business plans and decided to buy a franchise. Me being a firefighter I got a pretty good discount off the price of my franchise. We were somewhere around #82 franchise. There are around 165 franchises now. We started April 1st 2013 as The Grounds Guys of the tri-cities. We grew our business with the Grounds Guys help to more than double. So far in 2014 we have doubled that number already. Someone asked do they get you customers? Yep. Do they help you grow your business? Yep. They have systems and they have people with knowledge of the industry guiding and helping you in every way possible to help you succeed. Is it guaranteed your going to make it and not fail? NOPE! You have to do your part too. Is it stress full? HELL YES! but owning any business is stressful at times. Are you going to see eye to eye with your franchise consultant all the time ? NOPE. Its not for everyone but it has helped me with many different aspects of the business. There are so many people out there not making a dime doing this business. The Grounds Guys have taught me about setting goals, getting my numbers where they need to be, profit and loss statements, advertising for results, etc,etc,. I have a legit business now that is growing very fast and I am learning something new just about daily about this business. I have access to 165 other business owners just like me who have a wealth of business and field knowledge. I get national pricing on John deere,Exmark,Redmax, etc. that comes to about 45% off mowing equipment. A lot more that fleet pricing. I have access to vendors who offer services like payroll, workman's comp, ALOT cheaper than I could ever get it by myself. There are so many vendors that offer me discounts just because I am a Grounds Guy franchise owner. Great gig cant wait to get out in the field tomorrow!
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OneLineAtATime
06-26-2014, 06:22 AM
We spoke years ago. Every time I see there truck here now, I thank my lucky stars for not buying into it. Now they have 2 franchisees in the same town. Shop 15 miles from each other. So they have to bid against each other. That would bother me, got enough problems bidding against Brickman dont need to be bidding against my follow franchisee.
This is a small town. They are still emailing me crap, I bet they would have no problem selling me the third franchise in my town.

Good Luck with that.
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cpllawncare
06-30-2014, 05:46 PM
We spoke years ago. Every time I see there truck here now, I thank my lucky stars for not buying into it. Now they have 2 franchisees in the same town. Shop 15 miles from each other. So they have to bid against each other. That would bother me, got enough problems bidding against Brickman dont need to be bidding against my follow franchisee.
This is a small town. They are still emailing me crap, I bet they would have no problem selling me the third franchise in my town.

Good Luck with that.
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I doubt they bid against each other, they each have their own territory.

newguy123
06-30-2014, 06:48 PM
First to hear you say they are joke makes me wonder if you tried to become one and got turned down. unfortunately not everyone can become a Grounds Guys franchise owner. There is certain criteria you have to meet. i went to Waco with my wife to check them out. Class act bunch of people who also own and sale 6 other franchises in the service industry. The one i recognized right off was The Glass Doctor.Anyway we stayed in touch and went over our business plans and decided to buy a franchise. Me being a firefighter I got a pretty good discount off the price of my franchise. We were somewhere around #82 franchise. There are around 165 franchises now. We started April 1st 2013 as The Grounds Guys of the tri-cities. We grew our business with the Grounds Guys help to more than double. So far in 2014 we have doubled that number already. Someone asked do they get you customers? Yep. Do they help you grow your business? Yep. They have systems and they have people with knowledge of the industry guiding and helping you in every way possible to help you succeed. Is it guaranteed your going to make it and not fail? NOPE! You have to do your part too. Is it stress full? HELL YES! but owning any business is stressful at times. Are you going to see eye to eye with your franchise consultant all the time ? NOPE. Its not for everyone but it has helped me with many different aspects of the business. There are so many people out there not making a dime doing this business. The Grounds Guys have taught me about setting goals, getting my numbers where they need to be, profit and loss statements, advertising for results, etc,etc,. I have a legit business now that is growing very fast and I am learning something new just about daily about this business. I have access to 165 other business owners just like me who have a wealth of business and field knowledge. I get national pricing on John deere,Exmark,Redmax, etc. that comes to about 45% off mowing equipment. A lot more that fleet pricing. I have access to vendors who offer services like payroll, workman's comp, ALOT cheaper than I could ever get it by myself. There are so many vendors that offer me discounts just because I am a Grounds Guy franchise owner. Great gig cant wait to get out in the field tomorrow!


Very thorough response; thank you. When you say "doubled" can you elaborate a little bit on that? Maybe you went from 20 accounts to 40 accounts; maybe you can give the size of your "average" account as well.

Reason I ask is; for example; say year 1 you had 10 accounts. It would be very easy to double the following year.

I believe you double; but would like to know how aggressive your "double" has been since being with Ground Guys.

Thank you very much.

wes92395
07-25-2014, 03:50 PM
I spoke with them earlier this year. The lady I talked with was very nice, I spent a few hours talking with her. I was seriously considering it, then I walked out and looked at my name on the side of my truck and remembered that I started that from nothing, why can't I grow it on my own? Just wasn't for me, I don't want to have to ask somebody if I'm allowed to do something in MY business. I take pride in doing it myself even if it takes longer. Nothing wrong with them though, they seem like a legit company I would try if I was a consumer.
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Big Hitter
07-28-2014, 07:21 AM
If you are that uncomfortable with competition, then you are in trouble! Honestly, YOU ARE YOUR OWN COMPETITION! Look in the mirror when you lose a client. The other guy was there to catch them falling away from you!
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Big Hitter
07-28-2014, 07:45 AM
The beauty of franchising is that it is still YOUR company. The benefits you get are significant. Buying power, peer support, a consultant working with you weekly / monthly, brand presence, systems, marketing support, regional & national contract opportunities, ongoing business & technical training just to name a few things.

You will reach plateaus as you grow your business. The support you receive being a franchise will help guide you through those tough times.

It is a fraternity of business owners all focused on providing High Quality Service to their clients while maintaining high levels of efficiency and profit alnong the way.

You can get there without this support for sure. But in their system, you can get there quicker, make less mistakes, and have more fun doing it along the way. The investment pays for itself many many times over.

Stay in touch with her, I'm sure their door is still open for you.
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newguy123
07-29-2014, 09:12 PM
The beauty of franchising is that it is still YOUR company. The benefits you get are significant. Buying power, peer support, a consultant working with you weekly / monthly, brand presence, systems, marketing support, regional & national contract opportunities, ongoing business & technical training just to name a few things.

You will reach plateaus as you grow your business. The support you receive being a franchise will help guide you through those tough times.

It is a fraternity of business owners all focused on providing High Quality Service to their clients while maintaining high levels of efficiency and profit alnong the way.

You can get there without this support for sure. But in their system, you can get there quicker, make less mistakes, and have more fun doing it along the way. The investment pays for itself many many times over.

Stay in touch with her, I'm sure their door is still open for you.
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What else can you tell us about the franchise? Are you with one/which one? When you say their marketing support, do your royalty fees pay for marketing materials or do you kick extra in for that?

Please indulge! Thank you.

OneLineAtATime
08-03-2014, 05:44 PM
I think Big Hitter is a sales guy for them... Only a few post, doubt he is even from Cols, Ohio

CNYScapes
08-03-2014, 06:48 PM
I think a franchise like this is good for SOME people. Some people only have the business skills to run a 1 truck operation and dont know what or how to scale up from that to a really big business. Im sure grounds guys provides all that support to show you how to do it.

If you have a few trucks on the road, know how to market to get new business and can manage your guys then maybe its not for you.

vanncann
09-21-2014, 08:38 PM
Big Hitter you should come back and defend yourself... You are covering the ground guys to a point that is questionable...

trutco
09-23-2014, 08:57 AM
A franchise could be worth it if you don't have any business experience what so ever nor any lawn experience. Then again I don't know who has zero business experience but 100k laying around. I would invest that 100k in some nice looking uniforms, get a haircut, and go knock on the doors of property managers. Put the remaining $99,923 in an IRA.

Cedar Lawn Care
09-27-2014, 10:42 PM
They have called me the last couple seasons. I tell them I already dominate the online market and I am not interested. They call back 1 year later and repeat.

Mike Blevins
09-29-2014, 09:21 AM
As a Grounds Guys owner I can say its not for everyone. Some info I can give you is The Grounds Guys is the fastest growing landscape management company in the industry. With around 180 franchisees since July 2011 and will more than 200 by 2015. Any questions send me a PM and I will try to answer your questions.

Austin Lawn Mowing Pros
10-24-2014, 05:16 PM
I look into franchising every couple years and every time I don't see the value. It seems like you're really just paying for brand name and training. Maybe I'm naive, but I prefer to learn from the school of hard knocks.

Mike Blevins
10-28-2014, 08:06 AM
I look into franchising every couple years and every time I don't see the value. It seems like you're really just paying for brand name and training. Maybe I'm naive, but I prefer to learn from the school of hard knocks.

You are paying for a name and training. You say you like to learn from the school of hard knocks. I like to learn not only from my mistakes but from other peoples experiences. I have access to 180 other franchise owners 24/7. I'm on my 2nd year as a Grounds Guys franchisee. The support by headquartes in Waco and the other franchisees across the US is great.

CNYScapes
10-28-2014, 12:06 PM
You are paying for a name and training. You say you like to learn from the school of hard knocks. I like to learn not only from my mistakes but from other peoples experiences. I have access to 180 other franchise owners 24/7. I'm on my 2nd year as a Grounds Guys franchisee. The support by headquartes in Waco and the other franchisees across the US is great.

So lets hear what all the support is doing for you. What kind of numbers are you doing? How much have you grown?

Mike Blevins
10-28-2014, 05:38 PM
So lets hear what all the support is doing for you. What kind of numbers are you doing? How much have you grown?

Support comes in many ways. I have a franchise consultant that has an extensive background in landscape management and business development. Support also comes from other franchisees across the country. Support also comes from corporate in a few ways. They will get you or set up meetings with local businesses and HOAs. More support from headquarters in the form of many, many, vendors across the country in which we recieve discounts that other people can't get. For instance I just got a Billy Goat walk-behind leaf vac at a great discount because I'm a Grounds Guys franchisee. We have hundreds of vendors but to just name a couple woulkd be Exmark and John Deere. We save thousands on mowers,trucks,trailers,equipment,etc. One of the best benefits I have recieved through our "network" of vendors is a human resource company that takes care of all my business needs. In 18 months we have tripled our business. We thought we were going to just double this season but actually will have nearly tripled by seasons end. We were going to push snow this season but have decided to wait till next year as we have a great deal with another LCO that is going to plow for us. (Make money and not have to touch anything). We have 12 month contracts this year which we never had before so we have a great income coming in year round.

CNYScapes
10-28-2014, 05:43 PM
Support comes in many ways. I have a franchise consultant that has an extensive background in landscape management and business development. Support also comes from other franchisees across the country. Support also comes from corporate in a few ways. They will get you or set up meetings with local businesses and HOAs. More support from headquarters in the form of many, many, vendors across the country in which we recieve discounts that other people can't get. For instance I just got a Billy Goat walk-behind leaf vac at a great discount because I'm a Grounds Guys franchisee. We have hundreds of vendors but to just name a couple woulkd be Exmark and John Deere. We save thousands on mowers,trucks,trailers,equipment,etc. One of the best benefits I have recieved through our "network" of vendors is a human resource company that takes care of all my business needs. In 18 months we have tripled our business. We thought we were going to just double this season but actually will have nearly tripled by seasons end. We were going to push snow this season but have decided to wait till next year as we have a great deal with another LCO that is going to plow for us. (Make money and not have to touch anything). We have 12 month contracts this year which we never had before so we have a great income coming in year round.

Sounds like it is working out well for you. So you had an existing business before and changed over to the Ground Guys name?

What is the royalty?

Mike Blevins
10-28-2014, 08:47 PM
Sounds like it is working out well for you. So you had an existing business before and changed over to the Ground Guys name?

What is the royalty?

I had a small existing business i was operating with myself and a helper every now and then. I was considered a brand new start-up business. If you are $150,000 a year business or above then your what they call a roll in. As far as royalties I dont think I'm allowed to say. But I can say that with the vendor network deals and using the Human Resource company I use comes close to what I pay in royalties a year. I save around $3500 a year just in insurance by using this company that is aGrounds Guys vendor. The royalties are a percentage of what you gross. There are many variables this involves. One thing I like is it has brought our company to the next level. My wife now works with me in the business. It is a legit business. I learn something just about every day running it. No regrets. Who are We? Family!!!!!!

newguy123
10-29-2014, 10:10 PM
I had a small existing business i was operating with myself and a helper every now and then. I was considered a brand new start-up business. If you are $150,000 a year business or above then your what they call a roll in. As far as royalties I dont think I'm allowed to say. But I can say that with the vendor network deals and using the Human Resource company I use comes close to what I pay in royalties a year. I save around $3500 a year just in insurance by using this company that is aGrounds Guys vendor. The royalties are a percentage of what you gross. There are many variables this involves. One thing I like is it has brought our company to the next level. My wife now works with me in the business. It is a legit business. I learn something just about every day running it. No regrets. Who are We? Family!!!!!!

Sounds great; please indulge more; I'm pretty interested...

stromwrecker
10-31-2014, 11:58 PM
This may be the way to go after all.

cjmoore82
11-23-2014, 10:19 PM
One of the best things about LawnSite is the fact that everyone can give their opinions and if we choose, we can listen. Yet there are some ignorant hard headed people who would be better off not answering.

I have gone to Waco, TX to visit their offices and I have recently been accepted to be a franchise owner. Being almost a million dollar company, I know how to "run a company". I have made it past the one truck operation. I have made it past the difficult times and I have spent countless nights at my computer struggling to keep up with the demand. I sometimes think in my head that I have all the answers on how to make the business more successful and run seamless. Then reality hits and I realize there is too much that I do not know and not enough time in life to get what I want.

So what do you do? I personally allowed The Grounds Guys to graciously invite me to their headquarters and see what they have to offer before I passed any judgment on whether or not franchising with this company is right for me. The benefits are amazing.

I could go on for hours about what I think is best but I encourage you to reach out to them and find out for yourselves. If they don't invite you down to Waco then they probably see a flaw in you as a business owner. No offense. They are not going to invest in just anyone. They do their homework.

If I was to leave you with one thought it would be.... Do you have time in life to make mistakes and eventually learn from them? Wouldn't it be easier to have guidance from experts who have been building successful systems since 1981 and know the answer the first time? Is it worth the investment to you? It was to me.

Mike Blevins
11-24-2014, 07:46 PM
Well said. Welcome to the family. :drinkup:

RussellB
11-24-2014, 07:56 PM
Very interesting read. Thanks guys.

M50V
02-26-2015, 02:04 PM
Thanks for all the replies, very informative. I am going to reach out to them soon. Ive tried this once in the past on my own and trial/error cost me too much money, or I guess I should say, I could afford to lose that money then when I was single, but now that I am married with kids I cant take that risk again in that sense.

cpllawncare
02-26-2015, 03:42 PM
M50V, a franchise won't remove the risk factor! if anything it increases the risk factor.

M50V
02-26-2015, 04:11 PM
M50V, a franchise won't remove the risk factor! if anything it increases the risk factor.

I know it wont remove it, but at least years of them knowing what has worked for them and not worked for them beats my method of throwing mud on the wall and seeing what sticks, I know that isn't an option anymore.

cpllawncare
02-26-2015, 05:20 PM
I know it wont remove it, but at least years of them knowing what has worked for them and not worked for them beats my method of throwing mud on the wall and seeing what sticks, I know that isn't an option anymore.

You have a PM

ken56
03-01-2015, 08:23 PM
CJ, just went to your Facebook page but you still have the old company name. Did you decide to go with the Grounds Guys or did you decide not to?

ct-vt lawnguy
03-16-2015, 05:15 PM
Hi all im on my way to Texas to meet The Grounds Guys still not 100% sure about it yet.
would love to hear from some of you on the good and the bad and what to expect when I get there thanks

ken56
03-17-2015, 10:15 AM
Safe travels and let us know how it goes.

zturncutter
03-22-2015, 07:38 PM
Hi all im on my way to Texas to meet The Grounds Guys still not 100% sure about it yet.
would love to hear from some of you on the good and the bad and what to expect when I get there thanks

So what were your impressions ?

cjmoore82
03-22-2015, 10:56 PM
CJ, just went to your Facebook page but you still have the old company name. Did you decide to go with the Grounds Guys or did you decide not to?

Good observation. At the time I wrote the prior post I decided to go with Grounds Guys. Soon after, I spoke to a business consultant about my situation and changed my mind. I ended up hiring the business consultant instead. But I still have nothing but good things to say about Grounds Guys. I am just at the point in business where hiring a couple great people will solve my issues. It's just not for me at the time.
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ct-vt lawnguy
03-30-2015, 07:33 PM
Just got back from Texas Nothing but good to say about it. Signed up with the grounds guys today and ready to get started
after 25 years in business and stuck at a level of sales I just couldn't seem to get above for the last 4 years I think they have what ive been looking for. After weighing the cost of consultants advertising campaigns needing to revamp all my computers software building a new website etc etc which I was about to do on my own anyway this was a no brainer for me . it may not be for everyone and I'm sure some will say im crazy to buy a franchise but the time has come to change my life

cjmoore82
03-30-2015, 08:08 PM
Just got back from Texas Nothing but good to say about it. Signed up with the grounds guys today and ready to get started
after 25 years in business and stuck at a level of sales I just couldn't seem to get above for the last 4 years I think they have what ive been looking for. After weighing the cost of consultants advertising campaigns needing to revamp all my computers software building a new website etc etc which I was about to do on my own anyway this was a no brainer for me . it may not be for everyone and I'm sure some will say im crazy to buy a franchise but the time has come to change my life

Congratulation and good luck!

tiperrin81
04-29-2015, 05:16 PM
I love seeing some good positive stuff about the Grounds Guys on here. Thanks Mike. I wanted to share a little on this thread about my experience as a Grounds Guys owner. I bought my Grounds Guys franchise about 7 months ago after trying my hand at the owner/operator set up for a year. I am so pumped to be part the Grounds Guys. With the support and training of the GG I have already passed my yearly goal in gross sales in 7 months. I have the ability and support to go after properties I never thought I could get last year. The systems and platform to grow would cost a fortune in "consultant fee's". Not to mention the vendor support is unreal. There are some negative comments on this thread and people are entitled to their opinions but if you ever want an informed opinion you can always email me or PM me. Dan

tiperrin81
04-30-2015, 03:45 PM
Or email Me at tiperrin81@gmail.com

littledaveslandscape
05-14-2015, 03:08 AM
I've been talking to a GG rep in Waco Texas.. They seem legit.. He has given me some owners numbers that were in my situation before they invested. I am looking forward to looking deeper into this. Any advice and help would be appreciated. My business normal brings in around 300,000 a year and that's with two employees. I just need a proven system to help me get over this threshold I am at. I make money and I have good accounts and equipment but I am wanting to grow. I have read every forum I can find about the grounds guys and I don't see anything as negative about them as I do usl. U.S. Lawns don't have the best name where I am from. It's probably just poor management .... I just spend so much advertising , and trying to promote my business and i must be doing something wrong! My business has been successful but I want to keep it that way. Any advice or help would be appreciated. My email is gmanuel1206@gmail if anyone would be willing to help out. Buying a franchise is a huge decision and I think there are pros and cons to learning the hard way verses a proven system and then if you buy a franchise you have fees. So I'm stuck ! I have plenty of equipment and nice trucks and two powerhouse employees but I am not satisfied and I want to grow and be somebody !! Franchise owners please jump in and let me know your experiences and what you would do different , or how the franchise has been valuable to your life and business. Thank you and any help will be greatly appreciated.

GGofDesMoines
05-15-2015, 10:02 AM
Hey guys. I’m the owner of the Grounds Guys of Des Moines. We are located in Des Moines, Iowa. A little background on myself. I’m 32 years old. I started the business in April 2009 after I left the corporate world. I was an investment analyst for 4 years out of college. I started the business from in 2009 with a S10 blazer and a mower with no experience in the lawn care industry. I’ve grown $75,000 to $100,000 a year in gross sales year after year. We did $482,000 in gross sales in 2014. I joined the Grounds Guys in June of 2013.

You guys need to ask your self why you are in business on your own? Are you doing it as a hobby or are you trying to achieve something much greater and build a business that provides dividends year after year? The reason I own a business and am no longer working for someone else is because my ultimate goal is to build equity and an asset that provides passive cash flow down the road so I can have freedom to do what I want to do when I want to do it. Honestly that’s the reason I’m self employed. The only way to buy yourself that kind of freedom is through a turn key business and other investments. I started out as a one man operation with a mower. I’ve been fortunate enough in the last two years to step out of the labor and focus my time on managing the business.

The only way to build a turn key business is with proven systems in place. As an owner operator you have to work a rediculous amount of hours and you cap youself quickly. Yes you are self employeed but you are merely a technician that owns a job that you are tied to on a daily basis. The key to getting off the mower and building a solid business is with great employees and proven systems for managing the company.

I’ve been able to build a working schedule Monday through Friday 7 to 4 and take weekends off. My mentality is if I can’t figure out a way to get all my work done within 45 hours a week I’m doing something wrong.

The Grounds Guys has a great support network in place and is becoming a very reputable national landscape company. We are growing stronger by the day. The Grounds Guys is not for everybody. It takes the right mindset and values to join our company. It hasn’t been easy getting to where I’m at and I have a long way to go before I achieve my final goal! I’ve come to the realization that there is very rarely any gains in life without some pain that comes with it.

The bottom line is this. If you are wanting to build a great business that rewards you down the road with freedom and a return on your time and money I would seriously consider the Grounds Guys as a viable option for your future.

I will be happy to continue this discussion with you guys on this thread or via email, text or on the phone. I’ve included my contact information below. Best of luck to you all!



Corey Sedrel - President
The Grounds Guys of Des Moines
Office - 515.619.5540
Cell - 515.979.1454
Email - corey@lawntitans.com
Website - http://www.groundsguys.com/des-moines/
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TheGroundsGuysOfDesMoines
Customer Testimonial Video - http://bit.ly/1FRqOI5

Efficiency
05-16-2015, 08:23 PM
Hey guys. Iím the owner of the Grounds Guys of Des Moines. We are located in Des Moines, Iowa. A little background on myself. Iím 32 years old. I started the business in April 2009 after I left the corporate world. I was an investment analyst for 4 years out of college. I started the business from in 2009 with a S10 blazer and a mower with no experience in the lawn care industry. Iíve grown $75,000 to $100,000 a year in gross sales year after year. We did $482,000 in gross sales in 2014. I joined the Grounds Guys in June of 2013.

You guys need to ask your self why you are in business on your own? Are you doing it as a hobby or are you trying to achieve something much greater and build a business that provides dividends year after year? The reason I own a business and am no longer working for someone else is because my ultimate goal is to build equity and an asset that provides passive cash flow down the road so I can have freedom to do what I want to do when I want to do it. Honestly thatís the reason Iím self employed. The only way to buy yourself that kind of freedom is through a turn key business and other investments. I started out as a one man operation with a mower. Iíve been fortunate enough in the last two years to step out of the labor and focus my time on managing the business.

The only way to build a turn key business is with proven systems in place. As an owner operator you have to work a rediculous amount of hours and you cap youself quickly. Yes you are self employeed but you are merely a technician that owns a job that you are tied to on a daily basis. The key to getting off the mower and building a solid business is with great employees and proven systems for managing the company.

Iíve been able to build a working schedule Monday through Friday 7 to 4 and take weekends off. My mentality is if I canít figure out a way to get all my work done within 45 hours a week Iím doing something wrong.

The Grounds Guys has a great support network in place and is becoming a very reputable national landscape company. We are growing stronger by the day. The Grounds Guys is not for everybody. It takes the right mindset and values to join our company. It hasnít been easy getting to where Iím at and I have a long way to go before I achieve my final goal! Iíve come to the realization that there is very rarely any gains in life without some pain that comes with it.

The bottom line is this. If you are wanting to build a great business that rewards you down the road with freedom and a return on your time and money I would seriously consider the Grounds Guys as a viable option for your future.

I will be happy to continue this discussion with you guys on this thread or via email, text or on the phone. Iíve included my contact information below. Best of luck to you all!



Corey Sedrel - President
The Grounds Guys of Des Moines
Office - 515.619.5540
Cell - 515.979.1454
Email - corey@lawntitans.com
Website - http://www.groundsguys.com/des-moines/
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TheGroundsGuysOfDesMoines
Customer Testimonial Video - http://bit.ly/1FRqOI5

So, just looked at your FB page quickly and see your cover pics and coupons are geared towards residential services.

Any franchise that doesn't keep you out of residential mowing is just playing you for... Besides, what systems do you need that you have to pay for to perform residential services? If you're trying to build a long term successful management business, it won't be done doing residential accounts. Any franchise that tells you otherwise isn't in your corner.
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GGofDesMoines
05-18-2015, 03:51 PM
We are currently a 50/50 company when it comes to the balance of residential vs. commercial accounts. I started the business with a walk behind mower and have transitioned into more commercial work as the business has grown. I would have gone broke had I tried to go after only commercial work in the beginning. I didn't have any experience with lawn care or owning a business before I started the business. We are picking up more and more commercial work every year as the business grows and we develop solid relationships with commercial owners and property managers.

It's really up to each franchise owner to determine the right mix of residential vs. commercial accounts. It is also up to each owner to determine what gross margins are acceptable for their particular business.

Do you want to run a small operation built around residential accounts and achieve higher gross margins or become a commercial business with higher sales and lower gross margins. It's up to each owner to determine the mix that works best for them in their particular market.

We will become more and more weighted on the commercials side as the business matures. It will just take time. You have to be careful with commercial and know how to bid the work to be profitable (where the Grounds Guys helps their franchisees). If you make a mistake on a residential account you can recover easily. If you bid a $60,000 maintenance account (mowing, bed maintenance, snow removal, chemicals, etc.) wrong you can dig yourself a hole that can possibly cripple your business.

It also takes experience to be able to bid multiple services to achieve the right overall gross margin you need to be profitable. This is where the Grounds Guys expertise and support network shines and comes into play.

WestervilleOHGroundsGuys
05-27-2015, 02:36 PM
Hey, we wanted to invite anyone near Columbus, Ohio out to our Community Appreciation BBQ this Saturday from 3p-8pm. If you would like to learn more about the Grounds Guys our employees and their family members will be in attendance and would love to meet you! Here is the flyer for the event.

http://i59.tinypic.com/alt7gh.jpg

newguy123
05-31-2015, 08:46 PM
So, just looked at your FB page quickly and see your cover pics and coupons are geared towards residential services.

Any franchise that doesn't keep you out of residential mowing is just playing you for... Besides, what systems do you need that you have to pay for to perform residential services? If you're trying to build a long term successful management business, it won't be done doing residential accounts. Any franchise that tells you otherwise isn't in your corner.
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Hey Efficiency,

Not trying to "come against you" as I constantly look through threads to read what you have posted.

But...and this might be an "off" comparison being it's snow...but Neige on Plowsite owns a snow removal business where they were, I believe, initially a snow only business for just residential driveways. More recently they moved into commercial; but it served the company well for a lot of years! He took it over from his father...but residential is where they have been the most consistent. I think his residential base gross's over 800K in snow removal.

So yes; we're talking lawns vs snow...very different, still the same model, residential.

For my business; our residentials have been more consistent. But I'll defer to you sir; you've been in business longer than I...and again, I value your input.

Efficiency
05-31-2015, 09:21 PM
Hey Efficiency,

Not trying to "come against you" as I constantly look through threads to read what you have posted.

But...and this might be an "off" comparison being it's snow...but Neige on Plowsite owns a snow removal business where they were, I believe, initially a snow only business for just residential driveways. More recently they moved into commercial; but it served the company well for a lot of years! He took it over from his father...but residential is where they have been the most consistent. I think his residential base gross's over 800K in snow removal.

So yes; we're talking lawns vs snow...very different, still the same model, residential.

For my business; our residentials have been more consistent. But I'll defer to you sir; you've been in business longer than I...and again, I value your input.
Believe it or not, Paul was at my shop 2 or 3 weeks ago. We talked and laughed over dinner too. Pretty sure we are going to be a dealer for him and Metal Plessis.

We do large snow numbers too.

But there are HUGE differences between the management of snow vs summer mowing work on a large scale for small accounts.

For Paul and driveway snow, the guys do their route and it's very binary - the work was done or not.

With mowing, you've got no prayer keeping thousands of mowing accounts happy. How many account managers would you need to maintain relationships with all mowing clients and do quality control on a monthly basis? Again, all of that isn't necessary for his snow accounts.

Why you need commercial accounts for maintenance? We picked up ~$200k of maintenance for one property manager last fall. One friend to keep, one point of contact, one boss to report to. Sure, if you can't meet expectations, you've got bug problems but if that's the case, you shouldnt be chasing this work.

Again, all this applied to employee ran crews. An owner on site changes all this.
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Agape
06-21-2015, 01:30 PM
First to hear you say they are joke makes me wonder if you tried to become one and got turned down. unfortunately not everyone can become a Grounds Guys franchise owner. There is certain criteria you have to meet. i went to Waco with my wife to check them out. Class act bunch of people who also own and sale 6 other franchises in the service industry. The one i recognized right off was The Glass Doctor.Anyway we stayed in touch and went over our business plans and decided to buy a franchise. Me being a firefighter I got a pretty good discount off the price of my franchise. We were somewhere around #82 franchise. There are around 165 franchises now. We started April 1st 2013 as The Grounds Guys of the tri-cities. We grew our business with the Grounds Guys help to more than double. So far in 2014 we have doubled that number already. Someone asked do they get you customers? Yep. Do they help you grow your business? Yep. They have systems and they have people with knowledge of the industry guiding and helping you in every way possible to help you succeed. Is it guaranteed your going to make it and not fail? NOPE! You have to do your part too. Is it stress full? HELL YES! but owning any business is stressful at times. Are you going to see eye to eye with your franchise consultant all the time ? NOPE. Its not for everyone but it has helped me with many different aspects of the business. There are so many people out there not making a dime doing this business. The Grounds Guys have taught me about setting goals, getting my numbers where they need to be, profit and loss statements, advertising for results, etc,etc,. I have a legit business now that is growing very fast and I am learning something new just about daily about this business. I have access to 165 other business owners just like me who have a wealth of business and field knowledge. I get national pricing on John deere,Exmark,Redmax, etc. that comes to about 45% off mowing equipment. A lot more that fleet pricing. I have access to vendors who offer services like payroll, workman's comp, ALOT cheaper than I could ever get it by myself. There are so many vendors that offer me discounts just because I am a Grounds Guy franchise owner. Great gig cant wait to get out in the field tomorrow!

I can say this, last year, or a couple of years ago I saw a big giant enclosed trailerand decent truck decked out in "grounds guys" logo and thought to myself "oh no" because I've been on the site, and heard about these big giant franchises like grounds guys Ė Breckman Ė US lawns etc.Ö Taking over areas.

for a short period of time I saw them around and then all of a sudden I didn't see them anymore.
The other day I gave an estimate to a lady with a real PITA place with everything dead, overgrown blackberries- bamboo- etc....
I figured it would take 3 guys a full day plus hauling.
She said the "Grounds guys" did it last time for $240! ( no wonder they're no longer around)

I found out it was a Latino family- just a guy his wife etc..

I wonder what assistance the corp. gives on pricing, advertising, etc....

RonWin
06-21-2015, 03:22 PM
I guess this is what happens when you cant make it on your own as a successful business owner. You pay someone lots of $ for "advice" and their companies logos to try and pose into the market.

Mike Blevins
06-22-2015, 07:55 PM
LMAO :laugh: Yeah by looking at your previous posts and threads on here you seem to be a very positive guy who knows everything about the business:laugh:. With all those years of experience you have you might think about writing a book about how to start and run a sccessful lawncare company. :dizzy::dizzy::dizzy: