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sharpcuts
10-26-2011, 08:26 PM
Just wondering if anyone on here has bought into this & what you think about it.
My brother-in-law has been looking into it a little & asked me what I thought.

I know there are alot of guys on here that would never consider a franchise.

I want to hear from those of you that have first hand knowledge of this bunch.
Pros & Cons.

larryinalabama
10-26-2011, 08:32 PM
Never herd of them. Theres US Lawns, they wany you to invest 100kplus its rediciouls. You would be far better off purcahsing a exhisting busineess if the price was reasonable.

sharpcuts
10-26-2011, 08:40 PM
They're relatively new in the US. Been doing it in Canada for a while.

They want around 23k in the US. The canada website is http://www.sunshinelandscape.com/

larryinalabama
10-26-2011, 08:58 PM
From my life experenceis I will say I wouldnt do it. They want 23k for nothing then Im sure they want you tpo purcahase trucks from them.

A Franchise in lawncare really serves no purpose,a fast food franchise might be worth something. No one knows suhshine gras cutters bit everyone knows McDonalds

sjessen
10-26-2011, 09:28 PM
Got a call from them earlier in the summer. When they found out I was solo and in my 60's they said thanks but no thanks.

stickleylawncare
10-26-2011, 09:31 PM
Apparently the only franchise in FL is in my county, but Ive never seen them up her in the north part of St Johns. I see a US lawns truck and Brickman? every now and then. Tons of Valleycrest.

z71tiger
10-26-2011, 10:32 PM
I called them because I was curious. I Answered the questions they asked me and they said they would send me some information and call me back in a couple weeks to go over it, I never got the information nor a call back.
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AintNoFun
10-27-2011, 09:27 AM
From my life experenceis I will say I wouldnt do it. They want 23k for nothing then Im sure they want you tpo purcahase trucks from them.

A Franchise in lawncare really serves no purpose,a fast food franchise might be worth something. No one knows suhshine gras cutters bit everyone knows McDonalds

do you think mcdonalds started out with 1000's of stores right out of the gate?

32vld
10-27-2011, 10:01 AM
Why pay someone $23,000 so you can mow lawns?

Are they going to give you customers?

Then as another poster said one franchiser wants $100,000.

For what?

If one has $100,000 they can buy a new 4wd pickup 1/2 or 3/4, trailer loaded with a 34" and 60" mowers, line trimmer, back pack blower, hedge trimmer, snow plow.

What's that franchiser giving us for $100,000?

PTP
10-27-2011, 10:11 AM
I looked into them. I think that it would be a good opportunity for the right person. I spoke with a couple of guys who had the franchise and they had grown quite a bit and were quite happy with the franchise.

Yes, there is an upfront fee and your equipment has to be up to their standards. You might have to buy new trucks or that sort of thing.

It just wasn't for me. The reasons being that I pay my employees significantly higher than their model allows for. That would mean that I would have to likely start over in the employee department. I am also strongly committed to going cash only in my business and I was not ready to finance new equipment or finance the franchise fee.

Quality Cuts PLS
10-27-2011, 12:54 PM
They don't really send you anything, couple of links to some articles. They rather you go to their headquarters in Waco, Tx. to see how everything works.

sjessen
10-27-2011, 05:24 PM
They are at GIE/Expo.

Aaronnc
10-27-2011, 06:16 PM
I think owning a mowing franchise is a great idea!

As a matter of fact, I just started one 10 minutes when I was on the can!

Here's what you do. Go out and buy $75k worth of equipment, trucks, and trailers. Now bleed, sweat, and advertise and get a whole bunch of clients.
Now, send me $75k and I'll send you a couple of truck door magnets and some letterhead.

Can't afford it? No problems, I have some ex-Lehman Brothers employees on speed dial who keep in touch Bernie Maddoff and we can set you up with a sub-prime mortgage broker who can get a loan at 5% but will probably end up at 10-20% when the smoke clears. The cost of doing business! No worries! Keep sending me $1k every month. You better do it, or I'll take my door magnets back.

If you ever run into any problems, I'll give you my nephews phone number, and he'll walk you thru anything you need. Bingo. Recipe for nothing but success.

Send your $100k to: Aaronnc dba Valleybrick-McGrounds USA


I've got some Nigerian e-mail address pyramid schemes also this week only 50% off!!!

zturncutter
10-27-2011, 06:21 PM
Is Tommy Ganz, the ex ALMA guru still involved with this ?

ALEX'S LANDSCAPING
10-27-2011, 10:42 PM
Here in Canada they have been here for a while I see them on the street EVERYDAY
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leoc
02-22-2014, 06:19 PM
You have to think for a moment. They have a system that small landscaping and lawn service companies could not afford the start up money gets you going right of the bat they a marketing and sales, a National brand image strategic Accounts, social media, operation Synergy Owner and employee sales and marketing training. I can keep going these are components that are worth millions you really need to look into it I am considering the franchise, it is very hard for some one to do sales and run the business at once and if you are smart enough you get people to do that for you.

leoc
02-22-2014, 06:26 PM
Really? do you own a business? I bet you have been very successful.

vanncann
02-23-2014, 12:02 PM
Went and visited there site in Waco TX and enjoyed there campus... Very organized company... Is it for everybody??? As for the fees, not to piece compared to other franchises in this industry... The support and discounts might make it worth it if they can deliver the national accounts to talk to...

HPSInc
03-12-2014, 02:12 AM
If i bought into a franchise it would be a Tim Hortons, not a landscape company!

aaron86
03-13-2014, 08:06 PM
Franchise's are just another scab on the industry plain and simple companies like this here in Canada will go to no extent to lie cheat and steal work from the private businesses we have had to threaten multitudes of the so called professionals with legal action over their practices they are known to follow our trucks around wait for you to leave then attempt to poach the job to conclude my little rant be careful when they are around their practices are very questionable and dangerous for companies like myself

cpllawncare
03-22-2014, 02:06 AM
Franchise's are just another scab on the industry plain and simple companies like this here in Canada will go to no extent to lie cheat and steal work from the private businesses we have had to threaten multitudes of the so called professionals with legal action over their practices they are known to follow our trucks around wait for you to leave then attempt to poach the job to conclude my little rant be careful when they are around their practices are very questionable and dangerous for companies like myself

Here's a plain and simple fact for you, if you had such practices going on with this company why didn't you call the corporate offices? I've not known any such things around here to back up your story!

aaron86
03-22-2014, 09:06 AM
Here's a plain and simple fact for you, if you had such practices going on with this company why didn't you call the corporate offices? I've not known any such things around here to back up your story!

We did that would be when we threatened legal action
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cpllawncare
03-22-2014, 09:32 PM
There are always a few bad apples you can't judge the whole franchise by the actions of one franchise alone, just sayin.

aaron86
03-22-2014, 09:45 PM
Just saying I know the franchises out this way are are screwing everyone they can our only saving grace is that people are starting to see their true colours
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vanncann
03-23-2014, 10:47 AM
With my experience in dealing with the Dwyer Group most of the people I have delt with have been very helpful and knowledgeable on any questions I have had... If you have a group following you and talking to customers after you leave that does not sound like the "usual" group of the Grounds Guys... It sounds like some dumb ass trying to milk your customer, but it does not sound like any of the people I have talked to with the Grounds Guys at all...

aaron86
03-23-2014, 11:19 AM
We'll it is good to hear that their not all a bunch of screw balls but which ever route you choose to go just rember your clients will always appreciate you more if you are honest with them than if you try to push unnessarry services on them your clients talk and word of mouth is always great advertising
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cpllawncare
03-23-2014, 04:00 PM
We'll it is good to hear that their not all a bunch of screw balls but which ever route you choose to go just rember your clients will always appreciate you more if you are honest with them than if you try to push unnessarry services on them your clients talk and word of mouth is always great advertising
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Aaron,

I would find out who the local franchise owner is and talk to him, he may not even be aware of what's going on, I've been in situations myself where my guys are doing stuff I was unaware of until a customer told me and I very quickly put a squash on it. When you have multiple crews out and around it's hard to know what all is going on, as an owner we can't be everywhere all the time, and as the old saying goes "When the cat is away the mouse will play"

aaron86
03-24-2014, 05:32 PM
I'm under the assumption they know because they are leaving their card
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jmkr02
04-19-2014, 09:49 AM
From my life experenceis I will say I wouldnt do it. They want 23k for nothing then Im sure they want you tpo purcahase trucks from them.

A Franchise in lawncare really serves no purpose,a fast food franchise might be worth something. No one knows suhshine gras cutters bit everyone knows McDonalds

mcdonalds started somewhere
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jmkr02
04-19-2014, 10:15 AM
Franchise vs having a subcontractor as your primary customer?
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vanncann
04-26-2014, 05:55 PM
If you have NOT been to Texas and spoke with the people you really should NOT post on this thread... If you have talked with them then you have something to discuss... Most of the people I have read posting on this thread REALLY don't no there ass from a hole in the ground!!!

cpllawncare
04-29-2014, 08:10 AM
if you have not been to texas and spoke with the people you really should not post on this thread... If you have talked with them then you have something to discuss... Most of the people i have read posting on this thread really don't no there ass from a hole in the ground!!!

here here!

GMLC
05-04-2014, 03:49 PM
I have been called by the Grounds Guys and many other franchises. When you buy a franchise you are buying the brand and their systems. You may also have access to a "coach" or manager to answer questions. You are not buying accounts or salesmen to help you get accounts. You may also get fleet pricing on equipment and vehicles.

A franchise was not for me as I have my systems in place and my company is established and is a known brand in my area. I already get fleet pricing as well.

I do feel some people that don't have these already in place can benefit from a franchise. The name is known and marketing materials are ready to go. Just keep in mind nothing is free...

On the other hand these systems are not hard to build and you can build a brand with some hard work. Local Score chapters often have free coaches available or you can hire a coach much cheaper than a franchise.

OneLineAtATime
06-08-2014, 07:17 PM
One poped up here in Columbus Ohio, then i herd a 2nd franchise was sold in Columbus as well.

That would piss me off

vanncann
06-08-2014, 08:05 PM
One poped up here in Columbus Ohio, then i herd a 2nd franchise was sold in Columbus as well.

That would piss me off

You do just buy areas... If the town is big enough there may b more than one franchise sold in an area... The owner of these areas DID know that this could happen!!! But like stated in previous posts, if you haven't talked with these people you don't know you'r ass from a whole in the ground on this topic!!!

OneLineAtATime
06-22-2014, 09:54 PM
You do just buy areas... If the town is big enough there may b more than one franchise sold in an area... The owner of these areas DID know that this could happen!!! But like stated in previous posts, if you haven't talked with these people you don't know you'r ass from a whole in the ground on this topic!!!

We spoke with them for months.... A Joke

Mike Blevins
06-25-2014, 11:37 PM
First to hear you say they are joke makes me wonder if you tried to become one and got turned down. unfortunately not everyone can become a Grounds Guys franchise owner. There is certain criteria you have to meet. i went to Waco with my wife to check them out. Class act bunch of people who also own and sale 6 other franchises in the service industry. The one i recognized right off was The Glass Doctor.Anyway we stayed in touch and went over our business plans and decided to buy a franchise. Me being a firefighter I got a pretty good discount off the price of my franchise. We were somewhere around #82 franchise. There are around 165 franchises now. We started April 1st 2013 as The Grounds Guys of the tri-cities. We grew our business with the Grounds Guys help to more than double. So far in 2014 we have doubled that number already. Someone asked do they get you customers? Yep. Do they help you grow your business? Yep. They have systems and they have people with knowledge of the industry guiding and helping you in every way possible to help you succeed. Is it guaranteed your going to make it and not fail? NOPE! You have to do your part too. Is it stress full? HELL YES! but owning any business is stressful at times. Are you going to see eye to eye with your franchise consultant all the time ? NOPE. Its not for everyone but it has helped me with many different aspects of the business. There are so many people out there not making a dime doing this business. The Grounds Guys have taught me about setting goals, getting my numbers where they need to be, profit and loss statements, advertising for results, etc,etc,. I have a legit business now that is growing very fast and I am learning something new just about daily about this business. I have access to 165 other business owners just like me who have a wealth of business and field knowledge. I get national pricing on John deere,Exmark,Redmax, etc. that comes to about 45% off mowing equipment. A lot more that fleet pricing. I have access to vendors who offer services like payroll, workman's comp, ALOT cheaper than I could ever get it by myself. There are so many vendors that offer me discounts just because I am a Grounds Guy franchise owner. Great gig cant wait to get out in the field tomorrow!

OneLineAtATime
06-26-2014, 06:16 AM
First to hear you say they are joke makes me wonder if you tried to become one and got turned down. unfortunately not everyone can become a Grounds Guys franchise owner. There is certain criteria you have to meet. i went to Waco with my wife to check them out. Class act bunch of people who also own and sale 6 other franchises in the service industry. The one i recognized right off was The Glass Doctor.Anyway we stayed in touch and went over our business plans and decided to buy a franchise. Me being a firefighter I got a pretty good discount off the price of my franchise. We were somewhere around #82 franchise. There are around 165 franchises now. We started April 1st 2013 as The Grounds Guys of the tri-cities. We grew our business with the Grounds Guys help to more than double. So far in 2014 we have doubled that number already. Someone asked do they get you customers? Yep. Do they help you grow your business? Yep. They have systems and they have people with knowledge of the industry guiding and helping you in every way possible to help you succeed. Is it guaranteed your going to make it and not fail? NOPE! You have to do your part too. Is it stress full? HELL YES! but owning any business is stressful at times. Are you going to see eye to eye with your franchise consultant all the time ? NOPE. Its not for everyone but it has helped me with many different aspects of the business. There are so many people out there not making a dime doing this business. The Grounds Guys have taught me about setting goals, getting my numbers where they need to be, profit and loss statements, advertising for results, etc,etc,. I have a legit business now that is growing very fast and I am learning something new just about daily about this business. I have access to 165 other business owners just like me who have a wealth of business and field knowledge. I get national pricing on John deere,Exmark,Redmax, etc. that comes to about 45% off mowing equipment. A lot more that fleet pricing. I have access to vendors who offer services like payroll, workman's comp, ALOT cheaper than I could ever get it by myself. There are so many vendors that offer me discounts just because I am a Grounds Guy franchise owner. Great gig cant wait to get out in the field tomorrow!
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OneLineAtATime
06-26-2014, 06:22 AM
We spoke years ago. Every time I see there truck here now, I thank my lucky stars for not buying into it. Now they have 2 franchisees in the same town. Shop 15 miles from each other. So they have to bid against each other. That would bother me, got enough problems bidding against Brickman dont need to be bidding against my follow franchisee.
This is a small town. They are still emailing me crap, I bet they would have no problem selling me the third franchise in my town.

Good Luck with that.
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cpllawncare
06-30-2014, 05:46 PM
We spoke years ago. Every time I see there truck here now, I thank my lucky stars for not buying into it. Now they have 2 franchisees in the same town. Shop 15 miles from each other. So they have to bid against each other. That would bother me, got enough problems bidding against Brickman dont need to be bidding against my follow franchisee.
This is a small town. They are still emailing me crap, I bet they would have no problem selling me the third franchise in my town.

Good Luck with that.
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I doubt they bid against each other, they each have their own territory.

newguy123
06-30-2014, 06:48 PM
First to hear you say they are joke makes me wonder if you tried to become one and got turned down. unfortunately not everyone can become a Grounds Guys franchise owner. There is certain criteria you have to meet. i went to Waco with my wife to check them out. Class act bunch of people who also own and sale 6 other franchises in the service industry. The one i recognized right off was The Glass Doctor.Anyway we stayed in touch and went over our business plans and decided to buy a franchise. Me being a firefighter I got a pretty good discount off the price of my franchise. We were somewhere around #82 franchise. There are around 165 franchises now. We started April 1st 2013 as The Grounds Guys of the tri-cities. We grew our business with the Grounds Guys help to more than double. So far in 2014 we have doubled that number already. Someone asked do they get you customers? Yep. Do they help you grow your business? Yep. They have systems and they have people with knowledge of the industry guiding and helping you in every way possible to help you succeed. Is it guaranteed your going to make it and not fail? NOPE! You have to do your part too. Is it stress full? HELL YES! but owning any business is stressful at times. Are you going to see eye to eye with your franchise consultant all the time ? NOPE. Its not for everyone but it has helped me with many different aspects of the business. There are so many people out there not making a dime doing this business. The Grounds Guys have taught me about setting goals, getting my numbers where they need to be, profit and loss statements, advertising for results, etc,etc,. I have a legit business now that is growing very fast and I am learning something new just about daily about this business. I have access to 165 other business owners just like me who have a wealth of business and field knowledge. I get national pricing on John deere,Exmark,Redmax, etc. that comes to about 45% off mowing equipment. A lot more that fleet pricing. I have access to vendors who offer services like payroll, workman's comp, ALOT cheaper than I could ever get it by myself. There are so many vendors that offer me discounts just because I am a Grounds Guy franchise owner. Great gig cant wait to get out in the field tomorrow!


Very thorough response; thank you. When you say "doubled" can you elaborate a little bit on that? Maybe you went from 20 accounts to 40 accounts; maybe you can give the size of your "average" account as well.

Reason I ask is; for example; say year 1 you had 10 accounts. It would be very easy to double the following year.

I believe you double; but would like to know how aggressive your "double" has been since being with Ground Guys.

Thank you very much.

wes92395
07-25-2014, 03:50 PM
I spoke with them earlier this year. The lady I talked with was very nice, I spent a few hours talking with her. I was seriously considering it, then I walked out and looked at my name on the side of my truck and remembered that I started that from nothing, why can't I grow it on my own? Just wasn't for me, I don't want to have to ask somebody if I'm allowed to do something in MY business. I take pride in doing it myself even if it takes longer. Nothing wrong with them though, they seem like a legit company I would try if I was a consumer.
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Big Hitter
07-28-2014, 07:21 AM
If you are that uncomfortable with competition, then you are in trouble! Honestly, YOU ARE YOUR OWN COMPETITION! Look in the mirror when you lose a client. The other guy was there to catch them falling away from you!
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Big Hitter
07-28-2014, 07:45 AM
The beauty of franchising is that it is still YOUR company. The benefits you get are significant. Buying power, peer support, a consultant working with you weekly / monthly, brand presence, systems, marketing support, regional & national contract opportunities, ongoing business & technical training just to name a few things.

You will reach plateaus as you grow your business. The support you receive being a franchise will help guide you through those tough times.

It is a fraternity of business owners all focused on providing High Quality Service to their clients while maintaining high levels of efficiency and profit alnong the way.

You can get there without this support for sure. But in their system, you can get there quicker, make less mistakes, and have more fun doing it along the way. The investment pays for itself many many times over.

Stay in touch with her, I'm sure their door is still open for you.
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newguy123
07-29-2014, 09:12 PM
The beauty of franchising is that it is still YOUR company. The benefits you get are significant. Buying power, peer support, a consultant working with you weekly / monthly, brand presence, systems, marketing support, regional & national contract opportunities, ongoing business & technical training just to name a few things.

You will reach plateaus as you grow your business. The support you receive being a franchise will help guide you through those tough times.

It is a fraternity of business owners all focused on providing High Quality Service to their clients while maintaining high levels of efficiency and profit alnong the way.

You can get there without this support for sure. But in their system, you can get there quicker, make less mistakes, and have more fun doing it along the way. The investment pays for itself many many times over.

Stay in touch with her, I'm sure their door is still open for you.
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What else can you tell us about the franchise? Are you with one/which one? When you say their marketing support, do your royalty fees pay for marketing materials or do you kick extra in for that?

Please indulge! Thank you.

Big Hitter
07-29-2014, 09:22 PM
What else can you tell us about the franchise? Are you with one/which one? When you say their marketing support, do your royalty fees pay for marketing materials or do you kick extra in for that?

Please indulge! Thank you.
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