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fredrickson landscaping
10-26-2011, 09:40 PM
What back pack blower should i buy.

cpllawncare
10-26-2011, 09:54 PM
How much business do you have that requires a blower?

Darryl G
10-26-2011, 10:13 PM
What back pack blower should i buy.

We need a little more info on what the intended use of the blower is and what your budget is. What dealers do you have near you?

I just bought a Husqvarna 580BTS. It's gigantic, heavy, powerfull and expensive, but I only intend to use it for tough cleanups. I have other blowers for the less intense stuff. What works for me may not work for you.

Patriot Services
10-26-2011, 10:19 PM
Buy the biggest one you can afford. Blowers are one of those things that you can always use the extra power. The weight between a smaller and larger one is negligible.
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cpllawncare
10-26-2011, 10:46 PM
The majority here I would say go with the Stihl BR600! My little 380 has done me well thus far, but I don't have any heavy duty blower jobs either.

GMLC
10-26-2011, 10:49 PM
Stihl...Like others have said the biggest you can afford.

castlerockmo
10-26-2011, 11:35 PM
Husqvarna580!!
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Darryl G
10-26-2011, 11:46 PM
Husqvarna580!!
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I'm not sure I'd recommend the 580 to someone if it's going to be their only blower. It wouldn't be my first choice to grab to blow off walks and driveways while mowing. It's totally overkill for that. I wouldn't buy anything putting out less than 500 cfm though.

castlerockmo
10-26-2011, 11:53 PM
I think if you have clean up to do everyone should ha


ve one. I have te 380 the 370 and a 150 l. The 150 gets the most use for small sidewalks but the big ones come out for parked by lots
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Jason Rose
10-27-2011, 01:54 AM
I like my Stihl BR600 magnum. Why? I like that it's smaller on your back and more formed or rounded. It's better when working under trees and squeezing between bushes. Has as much power as pretty much all the other big players and the 4 cycle engine is supposed to be less noisy.

ralph02813
10-27-2011, 01:08 PM
Biggest you can afford, I like the idea of being to really hussle down the drive way without hesitation get the stuburn spots - it also make pine needles fly away :-)

fredrickson landscaping
10-27-2011, 03:38 PM
I was thinking of and I have 500$ To spend on a blower
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Darryl G
10-27-2011, 03:47 PM
Echo 770, Husqvarna 370 and 570, Stihl BR600, Redmax 7500 are all in that range I think, maybe a bit more with sales tax. All big powerfull blowers.

ralph02813
10-27-2011, 03:50 PM
go for the redmax 8500

ralph02813
10-27-2011, 03:53 PM
@fredrickson landscaping cfm is the key think of it as cfm for dollars the husq and the redmax top of the line are the same machine

fredrickson landscaping
10-27-2011, 04:18 PM
I was looking at the redmax
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ralph02813
10-27-2011, 04:27 PM
I really like mine in two years since I have had it, I think maybe 1/2 dozen time it took 3 pulls to start it, it does a really nice job, and I figure with the clean ups I did last fall, I owe it.

Darryl G
10-27-2011, 05:34 PM
The top of the line Redmax and Husqvarna machines do have some differences. The Husky 580 has hip and chest belts and weights a bit more than the Redmax 8500. The fuel capacity on the Husky is listed as being larger as well. They also have different air filter cover attachements. So yeah, the main parts of them are the same but there are some differences. But they're also over the $500 budget of the OP and I know that the Husky's are backordered as of this afternoon.

ralph02813
10-27-2011, 06:46 PM
Pat's in Charlestown has both hanging on the wall. The weight is not much to think about, I do wish I had a chest belt instead of my buggy!!

Darryl G
10-27-2011, 07:15 PM
Make no mistake, the 580 is a big heavy bulky blower, but the hip and chest belts make it feel lighter than it is, until you try climbing hills with it on, lol. I wouldn't recommend it for the smaller guys. If you're a big scrappin' landscaper dude who wants brute force, go for it.

Patriot Services
10-27-2011, 07:18 PM
You Nancy's wouldn't last one march in the military with a real backpack.
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Darryl G
10-27-2011, 07:20 PM
You Nancy's wouldn't last one march in the military with a real backpack.
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I KNOW you're not talking to me.

Patriot Services
10-27-2011, 07:23 PM
I KNOW you're not talking to me.

No Darryl I'm talking to Nancy!
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Darryl G
10-27-2011, 07:26 PM
OK, great, because I've backpacked 3k+ miles :) 30 pounds is nothing.

DuallyVette
10-29-2011, 01:57 PM
I just bought a RM8500. I haven't used it yet, but my dealer was very impressed. I've had several RM8000's, 8001's etc. They put a waist belt on the 8000's and 8001's. I liked the waist belt, but my employees would let the belts hang. My RM 8050 and new 8500 didn't come with any chest or waist belts. I'm going to check into Husky's belts.

I got my 8500 for $500. Buying a smaller blower to save $50 or even $100, is a waste of time, because you save so much time being more productive. I got rid of my older lighter blowers years ago, so my nancy employees wouldn't waste my time using an old light weight Sthil that I had. I always buy the biggest, newest blowers on the market and they have weighed 25 lbs for several years now.

douglee25
10-29-2011, 01:57 PM
Personally I'm a fan of the Shindaiwa EB802's. I think they are super comfortable and they move a ton of stuff. I would put it up against Stihl or similar blower anyday.

Doug

ralph02813
10-30-2011, 06:04 AM
@douglee25 you can put your shin up against anything you want, fact is, that the cfm of air it move is 152 less that the rm 8500 in other words it has a little more than 15% less power. The cfm is what moves stuff.

douglee25
10-30-2011, 10:00 AM
As I said in my post they are very comfortable. Regardless of gross over inflated cfm numbers from manufacturers, I would put the Shindaiwa up against anything.

Doug
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Patriot Services
10-30-2011, 10:33 AM
Manufacturers are known for fudging with numbers. Different pipes, settings, even fuel can all affect net output. That's what we count on eachother for, real world experience.
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Darryl G
10-30-2011, 11:17 AM
Yeah, some post their numbers of max cfm at engine rpms that can't be achieved too...what's with that?

bobcat48
10-30-2011, 11:24 AM
Echo Pb 770.

ralph02813
10-30-2011, 02:30 PM
@douglee25, patriot services, and darryl gesner. If that were the case in this thread then the reason not to agree with douglee is because his manufacturer is soooooo stupid he underinflates the cfm.

Patriot Services
10-30-2011, 02:41 PM
Maybe the manufacturer is honest with his numbers and tests its equipment under real world conditions. Only a fool would take numbers at face value. Remember one ZTR's mantra of "worlds fastest lawnmower"? How many times has that one been debunked?
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Darryl G
10-30-2011, 02:51 PM
The question here isn't really which is the most powerfull blower, it's which is the best...not necessarily the same thing. The Shindaiwa EB802 has a lot going for it. It's a simple 2 stroke design, has plenty of power and Shindaiwa blowers have a reputation for being easy to start and lasting virtually forever. It would make a great all season blower. It has smaller diamater and longer tubes than many of the other blowers, but take off one tube and the air flow increases and gives a more dispersed air flow like the Echo 770 and the Redmax 8500/Husky 580. I have a 10 year old EB630 that is just now starting to get a little tired. I took my 580 out yesterday with about an inch of slush on the ground and it wouldn't do squat...grabbed the newer of my EB630s (still probably 7 years old) and it did a better job than the 580 in those conditions because of the more concentrated air stream. Even in normal conditions it scours better than the 580 despite of having less air flow.

ralph02813
10-30-2011, 03:02 PM
@darryl, I am very happy with my redmax 8050 I can count the times it didn't start on the first or second pull on one hand - a couple of time it was no gas, then there was the other day as I waited for it to reach 40 degree I hear what you are saying, and I do not disagree.

mictrik
10-31-2011, 02:22 AM
The question here isn't really which is the most powerfull blower, it's which is the best...not necessarily the same thing. The Shindaiwa EB802 has a lot going for it. It's a simple 2 stroke design, has plenty of power and Shindaiwa blowers have a reputation for being easy to start and lasting virtually forever. It would make a great all season blower. It has smaller diamater and longer tubes than many of the other blowers, but take off one tube and the air flow increases and gives a more dispersed air flow like the Echo 770 and the Redmax 8500/Husky 580. I have a 10 year old EB630 that is just now starting to get a little tired. I took my 580 out yesterday with about an inch of slush on the ground and it wouldn't do squat...grabbed the newer of my EB630s (still probably 7 years old) and it did a better job than the 580 in those conditions because of the more concentrated air stream. Even in normal conditions it scours better than the 580 despite of having less air flow.

The EB802 does NOT have smaller tubes. The tubes are the same as the Redmax EBZ8001, I know as I have interchanged them and measured... The EB802 comes with two nozzles one is narrower at 65mm and as such it will increase the velocity at the expense of flow; very good for removing hard packed debris. The standard nozzle at 74mm is the one I use all of the time.

Darryl G
10-31-2011, 02:52 AM
Pretty sure the Shindaiwa tubes are smaller diameter than the Redmax 8500/Husky580 and the Echo 770. They may be the same as the 8001 but I was taking about the 8500/580.

ralph02813
10-31-2011, 04:59 AM
Pretty sure the Shindaiwa tubes are smaller diameter than the Redmax 8500/Husky580 and the Echo 770. They may be the same as the 8001 but I was taking about the 8500/580.

@darryyl, tube diameter as mictrik is helpful when getting stuck stuff off the ground, but it is the volume of air that cleans the side walk or helps with leaf clean up, that is why all the home use one sold at say home depot have much small tubes and all talk about miles per hour of air flow. So once again, if we are talking about which is better we need to qualify which is better for who or what. For who it would better would have to do with color of the machine weight of the machine and what you use it for - what is the better machine would have to do with how it performs overall. Maybe it would be best if when we talk about which is better we think about it like trucks which is better 4, 6 or 8 cylinder.

gmlm
10-31-2011, 08:43 AM
stihl br 600. i just bought one this year and dont plan on ever buying anything else. big, strong, but better on fuel than its counterparts.

mictrik
10-31-2011, 09:54 AM
Pretty sure the Shindaiwa tubes are smaller diameter than the Redmax 8500/Husky580 and the Echo 770. They may be the same as the 8001 but I was taking about the 8500/580.

I can not say anything for the 8500 but the 770 tubes are as follows:

1 E165000280 1 TUBE, NOZZLE 318◊72/91
2 E165000290 1 TUBE, STRAIGHT 418◊85/91
3 E165000310 1 TUBE, SWIVEL 367◊85/88
4 V495000440 2 CLAMP 77.8MM /101.6MM

The Echo's nozzle is tapered with the business end at 72mm.

mattmkng
11-02-2011, 02:43 AM
Echo 770BT is an excellent choice. Lightweight, powerful, excellent throttle response. Can handle and leaf job or clean-up.

mnglocker
11-02-2011, 07:14 AM
I like my Echo PB770T so much that I bought a second one yesterday for clean-ups. I gotta say, Echo listened to feedback and updated the throttle and kill switch design since last year. This makes for an even easier to use monster of a BP Blower.

integrityman
11-06-2011, 12:38 PM
Manufacturers are known for fudging with numbers. Different pipes, settings, even fuel can all affect net output. That's what we count on eachother for, real world experience.
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Correct!

Buy the one that gives the most cfm at the end of the tube.
Redmax and Echo appear to be the most capable in that category.

Personally I own a Stihl BR600 magnum. Its good, but there are better.

integrityman
11-06-2011, 12:52 PM
Husqvarna should be added to the list too.

JDiepstra
11-06-2011, 01:25 PM
@darryyl, tube diameter as mictrik is helpful when getting stuck stuff off the ground, but it is the volume of air that cleans the side walk or helps with leaf clean up, that is why all the home use one sold at say home depot have much small tubes and all talk about miles per hour of air flow. So once again, if we are talking about which is better we need to qualify which is better for who or what. For who it would better would have to do with color of the machine weight of the machine and what you use it for - what is the better machine would have to do with how it performs overall. Maybe it would be best if when we talk about which is better we think about it like trucks which is better 4, 6 or 8 cylinder.

Inline 6 of course!

ralph02813
11-06-2011, 02:19 PM
@intigrity man Husq makes the red max, they are virtually the same machine.