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SoCalLandscapeMgmt
10-28-2011, 06:34 PM
Interesting..... I'm wondering how long before the regular 1800 is discontinued.....

http://www.rainbird.com/landscape/products/sprayBodies/RD1800.htm

DanaMac
10-28-2011, 06:38 PM
Pretty cool. Any list price yet? Is it even available yet?

SoCalLandscapeMgmt
10-28-2011, 06:43 PM
I dunno..... it just went tup on their website today. I'll have to inquire about pricing and availability the next time I am in Ewing.

DanaMac
10-28-2011, 06:49 PM
Watched the first two videos so far. But it's tough to beat a regular 1804 with no options for about $1.00-$1.30, depending on if it's on sale or not.
The way my business is designed, working on existing systems from other companies or home owners, replacing a regular 1804 with a SAM or PRS or this new RD, doesn't make sense unless replacing all the heads. but I like the idea, and the construction of it.

SoCalLandscapeMgmt
10-28-2011, 07:05 PM
My guess is that they are aiming for the commercial spec market with this head. I'll be curious to see if the internals of an RD1800 are backwards compatiable with a regular 1800 case. Maybe after 30 years they finally decided it was time to update the 1800.

Hopefully Jim Lewis will chime in. I'm guessing there is a good possibility he's seen this head in person and possibly used it maybe even as long as a year ago, knowing the way that Rain Bird works.

DanaMac
10-28-2011, 07:08 PM
I'll be curious to see if the internals of an RD1800 are backwards compatiable with a regular 1800 case.

That would be nice. I really like that the 5000 fits inside the body of the TBird.

Mike Leary
10-28-2011, 07:24 PM
That would be nice. I really like that the 5000 fits inside the body of the TBird.

Yup, that would be a smart marketing move, like they did with the T-Bird (which I liked after they got it squared-away). I've had some 1800 wiper seals go south, but only because my crew did not take care in sandy conditions.

Sprinkus
10-28-2011, 07:41 PM
So the wiper seal contains a biocide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biocide). Looks like you might have to use an R.P. if you install these heads.

Mike Leary
10-28-2011, 07:51 PM
So the wiper seal contains a biocide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biocide). Looks like you might have to use an R.P. if you install these heads.

Looks to me the're designed for re-claimed situations, which I have no problem with, but would like to know more, like the root intrusion stuff Netafim has. You are right, I'd ask for a air-gap/RP type of backflow.

Sprinkus
10-28-2011, 08:09 PM
I know that Toro DL2000 is impregnated with Treflan. Don't know 'bout Netafim.

Mike Leary
10-28-2011, 08:29 PM
I know that Toro DL2000 is impregnated with Treflan. Don't know 'bout Netafim.

I would be more than a tad concerned with that crap. One of these days, the lawyers will have a heyday, and the contractors will take the hit.

Rotor_Tool
10-28-2011, 08:55 PM
Netafim offers and recommends a treflan disc filter for sub-surface turf applications. If it has bio-cide i would guess it is the same as what was used in the R-50 and Falcon wiper seals, I am guessing it is stable post molding but acts as a deterrent to insect damage in the finished product...not a scientist, just my opinion. List price on the base 4" is $4.30 and up for additional options.
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Kiril
10-28-2011, 10:45 PM
I can't speak for all Netefim tubing, but the techline does not have any pesticides last I checked. Their pesticide solution to root intrusion is released via the optional filter as already noted.

Mike Leary
10-29-2011, 10:57 AM
I've never had root intrusion problems, but I seem to remember some southern areas have turf that loves to crawl into heads and emitters. The old W*M 30 series had a specially designed bonnet to prevent intrusion, never heard if it worked worth a rat, though. :confused:

Waterit
10-29-2011, 11:13 AM
I've never had root intrusion problems, but I seem to remember some southern areas have turf that loves to crawl into heads and emitters. The old W*M 30 series had a specially designed bonnet to prevent intrusion, never heard if it worked worth a rat, though. :confused:

Not just turf - weeds, tree roots (magnolias and palm trees especially), and all manner of chewing insects.

Mike Leary
10-29-2011, 11:29 AM
I'm hoping to get a look at it when I see Kraig from RB either up here or in Phoenix.