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jsf343
10-29-2011, 09:04 PM
I have a 36" Sentar and LOVE that mower! I went to the website to look for a larger deck model and I don't see sentar even being offered anymore, am I looking in the wrong place or have they been discontinued? Is there ANYTHING even offered with a seat anymore?

greenpoint
10-30-2011, 10:30 PM
The "sport" is availble with a seat - not sure if the sport is officially replacing the sentar though...

jsf343
10-31-2011, 01:40 AM
ahhhh... OK.

Thanks Greenpoint.

WrightCommercial
10-31-2011, 09:28 AM
jsf343,

Your 36" is a Sentar Sport which we still make in the 36", 42", 48" and the 52" but they will be called Sport RH's now. The Sport X is replacing the full size Sentar which we stopped making earlier this year and will come in the 48", 52" and 61" deck sizes.

Best Regards
Wright Mfg.

jsf343
11-02-2011, 10:03 AM
Any big (or new) changes from the Sentar to the new model?

nepatsfan
11-02-2011, 10:09 AM
Hopefully the deck

WrightCommercial
11-02-2011, 10:36 AM
Any big (or new) changes from the Sentar to the new model?

jsf343,

Yes, one of the biggest changes was in fact to the deck. The new Sport X has our AeroCore Deck. Please click on this link to see what it's all about!

http://www.wrightmfg.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=wright.welcome

Best regards,

Wright Manufacturing

jsf343
11-02-2011, 04:05 PM
can you still use the mulch kit on it? I really love the mulch kit on my Sentar right now.

what other changes? pumps the same?

WrightCommercial
11-02-2011, 04:28 PM
jsf343,

Your 36" is a Sentar Sport so the new Sport X is quite different. The Sport X basically falls between your Sentar Sport and the discontinued full size Sentar. If looking to get the smaller deck size then you would want a Sport RH (the new name for the Sentar Sport). The Sport X will only come in the 48", 52" or 61" deck sizes. The deck is quick adjust for height but on chains so it is not rigid like your Sentar Sport, the footplate is spring loaded for more comfort if using while standing. The pumps are 12cc w/fans and the wheel motors are 15 cu in. so its top speed is 9.5mph compared to the Sentar Sport which is 7.5mph. Depending on the age of your Sentar Sport the new Sport RH is essentially the same model. Cosmetically the rims are black as is the pad material, the upright changed to accomidate the new EPA/CARB requirements as did the engine designations and they run our in house spindle.

Best Regards
Wright Mfg.

nepatsfan
11-06-2011, 04:14 PM
How come you sent out the new fixed deck standers with the old P.O.S. deck to start the year. Had to get rid of the old inventory?

WrightCommercial
11-07-2011, 09:13 AM
nepatsfan,

We only build per order so we do not have a warehouse full of built mowers or parts. Mowers with the old deck may have been in the pipeline but once we make the change that is all that is built.

Best Regards
Wright Mfg.

nepatsfan
11-08-2011, 06:01 AM
Why did you make the change on the fixed deck standers at the end of May or June?

nepatsfan
11-09-2011, 07:07 AM
No reply?.....

WrightCommercial
11-09-2011, 08:51 AM
No reply?.....

Sorry Nepatsfan...busy day!

It takes many, many weeks and sometimes months to fully incorporate a change until testing is complete. We try our best to ensure any product change is fully tested and results are satisfactory before launching. That sometimes can mean we miss what might seem to the public as a better launch date...in this case, we did not launch the product change in time for spring.

We try our best!

Best regards,

Wright Manufacturing, Inc.

nepatsfan
11-09-2011, 12:39 PM
You didnt have a problem putting the deck on the stander X or the sport but the fixed deck.....you didnt have time? Is that what you are saying? I thought you said that your machines were built to order? Its a pretty crappy thing that you put a deck on the new machines that you knew was inferior and knew that you had a much better solution just to get rid of your old stock and you sell the machine for the same price with the new deck.

WrightCommercial
11-09-2011, 01:20 PM
You didnt have a problem putting the deck on the stander X or the sport but the fixed deck.....you didnt have time? Is that what you are saying? I thought you said that your machines were built to order? Its a pretty crappy thing that you put a deck on the new machines that you knew was inferior and knew that you had a much better solution just to get rid of your old stock and you sell the machine for the same price with the new deck.

Nepatsfan,

My apologies if you misunderstood my statement. It's not that we didn't have or take the time but rather that it TAKES time. Some changes/improvements are easier (thus faster) than others. We launched the Stander X after positive results from much testing. After that, we began the process of designing the Aero Core deck to fit on the fixed deck large Standers and testing. But again, it takes time to accomplish this work.

And, yes, we do not build to stock--only to order--so it's very feasible that many units may very well have already been out in the field. Our distributors and dealers will naturally have some older product when we introduce an improvement. We attempt to minimize this as much as possible.

Again, my apologies if you misunderstood my statement. I would be happy to further clarify if you are interested. Please don't hesitate to contact me directly at the office (301-360-9810).

Best regards,

Jillian
Wright Manufacturing, Inc.

nepatsfan
11-09-2011, 01:55 PM
Thanks for clarifying. I should have known better anyway. I just went in and bought the machine without even seeing it. We were real busy. I had read all about the new deck. I just assumed that what I was buying would have it. I mean you had it advertised everywhere. I bought it, we used it, I saw what a sh*tty cut it left. I called my salesman, he told me it didn't have the new deck. I was down at the dealer later that week only to see the same machine I had with the new deck and different gas tank(which I couldn't care less about just noticed it). I wanted to run into a wall head first.....live and learn. For years I never bought wright because of the cut....I finally did and wish I didn't.

pugs
11-10-2011, 05:18 PM
Thanks for clarifying. I should have known better anyway. I just went in and bought the machine without even seeing it. We were real busy. I had read all about the new deck. I just assumed that what I was buying would have it. I mean you had it advertised everywhere. I bought it, we used it, I saw what a sh*tty cut it left. I called my salesman, he told me it didn't have the new deck. I was down at the dealer later that week only to see the same machine I had with the new deck and different gas tank(which I couldn't care less about just noticed it). I wanted to run into a wall head first.....live and learn. For years I never bought wright because of the cut....I finally did and wish I didn't.

Distributors and dealers do stock product and it doesnt get sold instantly so there will be older product in the channels until it all filters out. Wright mowers dont really have a model year just serial number breaks when changes happen. You could probably have requested your dealer to order a new style one but even that could have some issues. The distributor may have a large warehouse full of the older ones still moving through. Also if you would have done that there would probably be freight to get the mower to your dealer. There would probably be a higher price also because the dealer bought the ones he had earlier in the year or late the year before. Prices generally go up every year and alot of times its in the middle of the mowing season.

All the Wrights I have sold this year with the exception of X's have had the old deck on them. Although nobody complains about the Wright decks in this area. I didnt even know they were putting the new deck on the fixed deck units until a couple months ago.

nepatsfan
11-10-2011, 05:24 PM
Distributors and dealers do stock product and it doesnt get sold instantly so there will be older product in the channels until it all filters out. Wright mowers dont really have a model year just serial number breaks when changes happen. You could probably have requested your dealer to order a new style one but even that could have some issues. The distributor may have a large warehouse full of the older ones still moving through. Also if you would have done that there would probably be freight to get the mower to your dealer. There would probably be a higher price also because the dealer bought the ones he had earlier in the year or late the year before. Prices generally go up every year and alot of times its in the middle of the mowing season.

All the Wrights I have sold this year with the exception of X's have had the old deck on them. Although nobody complains about the Wright decks in this area. I didnt even know they were putting the new deck on the fixed deck units until a couple months ago.
Like I said...my bad. When you go to buy a 2011 ford truck with the new 6.7scorpion diesel I didn't ask if it had the 6.4 in it. I asked my salesman if it was gonna be the brand new one. He said "yes...it will have the black pad and black rims, that's how you can tell the difference between the new and the old." To me that is the newest machine with all the new equipment like it is advertised. I never specifically asked if it would include the new deck, I didn't think I had to. My bad.....I demoed the v ride in september....going totally scag from here on out. Getting the fleet pricing for buying more than 2 and no dealing with stupid BS. Btw...I demoed the X too and the machine felt more comfortable to me(actually to my guys, I never ran it). Anyways, going with scag from here on out as a matter of principle....and a better cut.

When I go to scag to order the v-ride's should I have to ask if it comes with the velocity deck like they advertise....or will it come with the advantage?

Florida Gardener
11-10-2011, 08:20 PM
Like I said...my bad. When you go to buy a 2011 ford truck with the new 6.7scorpion diesel I didn't ask if it had the 6.4 in it. I asked my salesman if it was gonna be the brand new one. He said "yes...it will have the black pad and black rims, that's how you can tell the difference between the new and the old." To me that is the newest machine with all the new equipment like it is advertised. I never specifically asked if it would include the new deck, I didn't think I had to. My bad.....I demoed the v ride in september....going totally scag from here on out. Getting the fleet pricing for buying more than 2 and no dealing with stupid BS. Btw...I demoed the X too and the machine felt more comfortable to me(actually to my guys, I never ran it). Anyways, going with scag from here on out as a matter of principle....and a better cut.

When I go to scag to order the v-ride's should I have to ask if it comes with the velocity deck like they advertise....or will it come with the advantage?

Why do you feel a need to make this public? Couldn't a PM work? Are you trying to make a scene on the board to get somewhere or just to rant and rave? I can understand why your upset, but I think you can go about it in a different way.

On the deck-I have a 2008 and don't have any issues with the cut quality. I am down south so we are cutting different grasses, but I have no issues. I have also had no issues with my stander in 3 years. That to me is well worth it(owning a stander).

nepatsfan
11-10-2011, 09:02 PM
Why do you feel a need to make this public? Couldn't a PM work? Are you trying to make a scene on the board to get somewhere or just to rant and rave? I can understand why your upset, but I think you can go about it in a different way.

On the deck-I have a 2008 and don't have any issues with the cut quality. I am down south so we are cutting different grasses, but I have no issues. I have also had no issues with my stander in 3 years. That to me is well worth it(owning a stander).

What is the scene? Just stating a fact. I'm not looking for anything...I think the mower has 300 hours now. What is the need for pm? They think what happened was ok and reasonable, so what. I'm not lying about anything and neither are they, if that is how their operation works then why would we need to pm. This is a public forum. Just like you and anyone else can shake their pom poms around, I feel I can question things publically also. I wave my pom poms for scag...you want me to pm Dane Scag and tell him?

We still use the mower. Have to double cut when the grass is growing well so you don't have stringers. Operationally we only had one issue with a chaffed wire...dealer took care of it quickly. Not wrights fault though...the wire was routed in a bad way which I believe was a set up issue. No operational problems, very responsive hydros, awesome on hills, cut quality svcks.

If you are happy with the cut quality then fine but apparantly wright wasn't too happy with it or they wouldn't have spent all the money to make a new deck. I spend a lot of money on equipment and try to buy the best...when i get something that is sub par I'm gonna say it just like I'm gonna tell you if it's great. Ask me about the new hurricane blower I just bought? The thing is a beast.

pugs
11-10-2011, 11:36 PM
When I go to scag to order the v-ride's should I have to ask if it comes with the velocity deck like they advertise....or will it come with the advantage?

Actually maybe you should because if you really research what you are buying you would know that a V-ride could have either deck depending on what deck size you buy...

Show me where Wright advertises the Stander coming with an Aero Core deck. http://www.wrightmfg.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=wright.welcome (Says at the bottom available on Stander X models, nothing about the regular Stander)

At some point Scag switched from the Advantage to the Velocity deck so if you had bought the newest machine with an Advantage right before the Velocity Plus came out you would be unhappy with them....:rolleyes:

http://www.wrightmfg.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=products.view&productid=22B2C940-F6EB-4667-FD8396DCAD219DC8

Nothing there about Aero Core.

http://www.wrightmfg.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=products.view&productid=AD018297-1372-5743-E9F03202A1C5D023

Hmmm, something about Aero Core....

nepatsfan
11-11-2011, 05:50 AM
Actually maybe you should because if you really research what you are buying you would know that a V-ride could have either deck depending on what deck size you buy...

Show me where Wright advertises the Stander coming with an Aero Core deck. http://www.wrightmfg.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=wright.welcome (Says at the bottom available on Stander X models, nothing about the regular Stander)

At some point Scag switched from the Advantage to the Velocity deck so if you had bought the newest machine with an Advantage right before the Velocity Plus came out you would be unhappy with them....:rolleyes:

http://www.wrightmfg.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=products.view&productid=22B2C940-F6EB-4667-FD8396DCAD219DC8

Nothing there about Aero Core.

http://www.wrightmfg.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=products.view&productid=AD018297-1372-5743-E9F03202A1C5D023

Hmmm, something about Aero Core....Hmmm....are you saying that the new stander doesn't come with the aero core deck? Does the new fixed deck stander have 10cc pumps? That's what it says on the website. Maybe they should update that. They were advertising the aerocore deck on lawnsite. It was on the left side of the page I believe.

The problem is not that I bought newest machine with the old deck. The problem I have is a bought the newest machine when the new deck was already out and I asked them if I was getting the newest machine and they said yes. Some people were getting the stander with the new deck when we bought ours.

Just because you only sell 3 a year and have inventory from years ago doesn't mean everyone wants outdated products. Maybe you would sell more if you knew your products better and what the company was offering.

Scag is very clear on their website what deck you will get. I wouldn't have to ask at all. If you get 52 in april or a 52 in may you are gonna get the same deck.

nepatsfan
11-11-2011, 06:03 AM
With Wright you can buy the absolute newest machine they offer and in Massachusetts you may get the aero core deck in june and in chicago you are gonna get the P.O.S. deck. Does that seem right? Again I'm not looking for anything now but the older units should be sold off at a discount and the new ones should be full price like anything else. You shouldn't have to guess if you are getting the newest model if you are buying a new machine. Some people get them and some people don't, you all pay the same. I'm done with this though. As I said live and learn, I know better now. It was an inexpensive learning experience that I will never let happen again with any manufacturer. Although I don't think other manufacturers will operate this way but I know the questions to ask.

Enjoy the kool-aid guys!

nepatsfan
11-12-2011, 06:29 AM
Why do you feel a need to make this public? Couldn't a PM work? Are you trying to make a scene on the board to get somewhere or just to rant and rave? I can understand why your upset, but I think you can go about it in a different way.

On the deck-I have a 2008 and don't have any issues with the cut quality. I am down south so we are cutting different grasses, but I have no issues. I have also had no issues with my stander in 3 years. That to me is well worth it(owning a stander).

Just an F.Y.I on this too because I just thought of it. I sent an email to Wright on mon 6/20/11 at 7:33 p.m. about this and never received a return email. So I did attempt to contact them. It was so long ago I forgot but after I started thinking about it I remembered sending it and I looked it up in my sent email and there it was.

WrightCommercial
11-14-2011, 08:48 AM
Just an F.Y.I on this too because I just thought of it. I sent an email to Wright on mon 6/20/11 at 7:33 p.m. about this and never received a return email. So I did attempt to contact them. It was so long ago I forgot but after I started thinking about it I remembered sending it and I looked it up in my sent email and there it was.

Nepatsfan,

My apologies then as the email would have come to me. I went back to look for it and I did not see it...doesn't mean you didn't send it but I just wanted you to know for whatever reason, it did not reach me.

Again, my greatest apologies. It's my goal to answer any and all emails we receive so it is unfortunate that I somehow missed yours.

I realize you have no interest in resolving this issue as you have moved on and feel this was a learning experience so I am not attempting to sway you, only an attempt to explain that you were not being ignored. Sometimes in this day and age of technology, there are snags.

Best wishes in your future endeavors.

Kind regards,

Jillian Jensen
Wright Manufacturing, Inc.

WJC
11-14-2011, 04:50 PM
It's funny how the subject matter of some threads(like this one) completely change. I am a fan of Wright mowers and its unfortunate that someone bought a mower without realizing what he was buying. Both sides lost out on this one.

nepatsfan
11-14-2011, 05:08 PM
Nepatsfan,

My apologies then as the email would have come to me. I went back to look for it and I did not see it...doesn't mean you didn't send it but I just wanted you to know for whatever reason, it did not reach me.

Again, my greatest apologies. It's my goal to answer any and all emails we receive so it is unfortunate that I somehow missed yours.

I realize you have no interest in resolving this issue as you have moved on and feel this was a learning experience so I am not attempting to sway you, only an attempt to explain that you were not being ignored. Sometimes in this day and age of technology, there are snags.

Best wishes in your future endeavors.

Kind regards,

Jillian Jensen
Wright Manufacturing, Inc.
I appreciate you being attentive and I understand that with technology there are issues. I promise you the email was sent. This wouldn't bother me if I hated the machine. My guys like the wright. I like the wright. I am not a fan of the cut or the way the system works. It works for you because I see your mowers everywhere around here. I really was dissapointed and was venting. Its just one of those things that leaves a bad taste in your mouth because I felt a little slighted and misled on it. I really do thank you for responding though.

zackz28
02-11-2012, 09:30 AM
jsf343,

Your 36" is a Sentar Sport which we still make in the 36", 42", 48" and the 52" but they will be called Sport RH's now. The Sport X is replacing the full size Sentar which we stopped making earlier this year and will come in the 48", 52" and 61" deck sizes.

Best Regards
Wright Mfg.

Is the new SPORT X going to be available this year? Looking on your website im not seeing anything about it. I own 52 and 61 sentars now and was looking at adding another, is the sport x just a new name for the same machine with the addition of the new aero deck?

WJC
02-11-2012, 11:36 AM
Is the new SPORT X going to be available this year? Looking on your website im not seeing anything about it. I own 52 and 61 sentars now and was looking at adding another, is the sport x just a new name for the same machine with the addition of the new aero deck?

The Sport X is available now, I have a 52/24. Its a pretty awesome mower. I have a 52/19 Sentar Sport which I've been using for about 4yrs and the Sport X is a lot more mower. It has the new deck, bigger pumps and wheel motors, bigger tires all the way around,bigger motor and bigger frame. Its like a Sentar Sport on steroids.