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Landscape Poet
11-05-2011, 11:10 AM
So there is all this talk of what are you going to do with your time off here on LS. This is what I did on my first day off for the season.

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Landscape Poet
11-05-2011, 11:12 AM
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Landscape Poet
11-05-2011, 11:15 AM
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pfcjs
11-05-2011, 11:17 AM
Is this your personal house?

Looks good.

Landscape Poet
11-05-2011, 11:17 AM
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Landscape Poet
11-05-2011, 11:18 AM
Is this your personal house?

Looks good.

No - it is however a fellow lawnsite members house who needed some new turf and I feel I got him off to a good start for a great lawn.

Landscape Poet
11-05-2011, 11:26 AM
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Tri-City Outdoors
11-05-2011, 12:25 PM
You use a lawn roller! That's great! I thought we were the only ones who used one.

BTW looking good.

Ric
11-05-2011, 12:31 PM
You use a lawn roller! That's great! I thought we were the only ones who used one.

BTW looking good.

Tri-city

Back when I was in the sod business, I found Sand Sod needed rolled. I also found Muck sod did better without rolling. The only theory I could come up with was rolling smashed the roots of Muck sod. Sand Sod needed the roots to soil contact.

I suggest next Muck Sod job you roll only part of the yard and do a comparison for your self.

KrayzKajun
11-05-2011, 01:08 PM
Nice work. I love sod installs
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Tri-City Outdoors
11-05-2011, 01:45 PM
We lay a lot less muck, but next time, we'll try it out. We always like do little "test".
Fell feel rolling it is the Icing on the cake!

Landscape Poet
11-05-2011, 02:47 PM
Tri-city


I suggest next Muck Sod job you roll only part of the yard and do a comparison for your self.

I will have to try that. The roller did get used on this lawn as when I was walking a few areas which torpedo grass had been prior to the sod...it felt like it might not be tight against the soil. So I rolled it. We did spray the torpedo several times to give it the best chance of not coming back...but with torpedo just like bermuda you never know.


Did anyone notice the MP rotator nozzels on the irrigation system? The homeowner went through and renovated his entire irrigation system just prior to install. All nozzels have beenswithed over to rotator.

The home owner was able to get much more control over his irrigation system with this nozzels as well as he is adding a soil moisture sensor to aid him in watering only when it is needed.

williams lcm
11-05-2011, 03:20 PM
What was wrong with the grass before you took it out? It seems like every few years some people have to re sod again. It is either crab grass, chinch bug or lack of proper irrigation that causes to re sod. This one guy replaced his grass twice and is starting to go bad again. Did you put some black cow down berore you laid the sod or just laid it on the natural sand? Now how high are you going to cut this grass once you start mowing it. Thanks

Keith
11-05-2011, 03:40 PM
Did anyone notice the MP rotator nozzels on the irrigation system?

The very first thing I noticed. Well other than the sod :)

Patriot Services
11-05-2011, 03:48 PM
i like to see more border around the pool equipment. Chlorine, acid and salt guarantee the grass is usually crappy.

Landscape Poet
11-06-2011, 01:11 AM
What was wrong with the grass before you took it out? It seems like every few years some people have to re sod again. It is either crab grass, chinch bug or lack of proper irrigation that causes to re sod. This one guy replaced his grass twice and is starting to go bad again. Did you put some black cow down berore you laid the sod or just laid it on the natural sand? Now how high are you going to cut this grass once you start mowing it. Thanks

The owner had active cinch bug when I first visited the property. He was treating with one of the "thrin" products and I am assuming they were resistant. He has a L & O company now, fixed his irrigation...he should be good and not have to resod anytime soon.

We did spread a little top soil - about 2 yards in some of the low spots ...to help prevent them...but that soil in the picture is kind of what we have in this part of town. His soil holds moisture really well.

jvanvliet
11-06-2011, 07:56 AM
That's an excellent job.

Our sod jobs consist of renovating damaged areas as opposed to the whole property. Your client was smart to upgrade his irrigation to the Hunter MP's. He'll save water and get better distribution, he may have to run them a little longer. We installed those MP rotators to several commercial sites about a year ago, no complaints.

We're doing a renovation job right now, pulled out the old hydro-indexing valve & installed a well, pump, rust injection system, electric valves and controller. Now we'll renovate the sprinklers, put all the pop ups on swing pipe & swap out the mist heads. We'll use Torro pop ups & Precision nozzles (much like the PM's) before putting down new sod from the Glades, so "muck".

EOW doen't = End Of Work, eh?

:drinkup:

Ric
11-06-2011, 09:13 AM
I will have to try that. The roller did get used on this lawn as when I was walking a few areas which torpedo grass had been prior to the sod...it felt like it might not be tight against the soil. So I rolled it. We did spray the torpedo several times to give it the best chance of not coming back...but with torpedo just like bermuda you never know.


Did anyone notice the MP rotator nozzels on the irrigation system? The homeowner went through and renovated his entire irrigation system just prior to install. All nozzels have beenswithed over to rotator.

The home owner was able to get much more control over his irrigation system with this nozzels as well as he is adding a soil moisture sensor to aid him in watering only when it is needed.



Mike

You make a good point about repairing the Irrigation system. I am would like to think 75% of turf failures can be linked back to some kind of bad irrigation. Miss-management of Culture and Chemical practices will kill grass quick here in Florida. Warm season turf isn't easy like Blue grass that any homeowner can care for.

Bryan now has my Torpedo Grass Control herbicide for St Augustine. I hope that is who you recommended to this home owner. BTW he will be getting the Bermuda Grass herbicide for St Augustine real soon also. He build a website for me and that is his payment. It is not a Green Industry website so I will not post a Link here.

As for rolling new sod. We had a small Ride On type motor driven roller. It is a lot heavier than the tow behind model I saw in your pictures. You might not see the dramatic differences that we saw from rolling Muck Sod. But I think your roller is heavy enough for sand sod. In Fact I believe our roller was too heavy. I say we because I had a partner in the sod business who actually ran it.

The Sod business can be both a Hard A$$ job and a Money maker. Growing the business big enough to have enough help to so you don't have to work your self to death in the big problem. Being at the Sod field at 6:00 AM and then selling customers at 7:00 PM after laying sod all day is a hard life. The weight of sod means heavy duty equipment of all kinds. Then you end up pushing a wheel barrel full of sod to the back yard because of a Gate. But buying a Pallet of Sod in the Field for $ 60.00 and having it delivered for $ 125.00 is the difference between making money and making wages. Our 70,000 GVW 24 ft bed truck with Piggy Back Fork lift could carry 5,000 sq ft of sod. a 18 wheeler at 80,000 GVW can only carry 6.400 sq ft of wet sod.


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Landscape Poet
11-06-2011, 10:21 AM
Bryan now has my Torpedo Grass Control herbicide for St Augustine. I hope that is who you recommended to this home owner. BTW he will be getting the Bermuda Grass herbicide for St Augustine real soon also. He build a website for me and that is his payment. It is not a Green Industry website so I will not post a Link here.



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He was my first thought and call - as well as the HO's first call but the distance was a little too far out of Bryan's range for regular service. The homeowner is aware that he will be able to take the torpedo out if it does indeed come back so maybe Bryan will make a one time visit for these type of services.

Florida Gardener
11-06-2011, 10:41 AM
Does Fl-Landscapes have an L&O??

Ric
11-06-2011, 11:00 AM
He was my first thought and call - as well as the HO's first call but the distance was a little too far out of Bryan's range for regular service. The homeowner is aware that he will be able to take the torpedo out if it does indeed come back so maybe Bryan will make a one time visit for these type of services.

Mike

That would be Bryan's call, But not my way of doing business. If I am going to do the speciality work then I am going to do it all or nothing. My attitude is why should I pull my competitors butt out of the fire. What! so they can continue to make money off that customer with the standard easy application that are in fact more profitable than my speciality work.

Of course in this case if Bryan is networking with you and your customer is Geographically undesirable for him. Then a added trip charge and higher but reasonable Surcharge wouldn't be out of line. When I tell people My Selective Bermuda Grass kill starts at $ 300.00 they bulk. Then I tell them try and find some one else who offers the same service because they can't. Truth is I don't make a big Margin on Bermuda Grass kill because of the Chemical Cost. It is more of a low margin leader to get the total package. Torpedo Grass is less expensive to control but also a PITA taking Multiply treatments.


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